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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

530.0. "SUGGESTION EFT V1.1: Enhancements to the ICONIC MAP" by SMAUG::BELANGER (Quality is not a mistake!) Fri Dec 07 1990 12:52

    
    Here are some suggestions for additions to the ICONIC MAP:
    
    1)	It would be nice if the user could input directives from a command
    	line window.  I am working on a project which is designed to be
    	able to manage 30,000+ global entities.  Since we don't want to
    	force the user to register all these entities, it would be nice if
    	the user could somehow manage these non-registered global entities
    	(kind of like being able to manage a DNA Phase IV node from FCL
    	without the need to register that node).
    
    2)	It would be nice to be able to show ALL ATTRIBUTES of an entity.
    	Currently, you can only see the various partitions.
    
    ~Jon.
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530.1all attributes must exist within a partitionGOSTE::CALLANDERFri Dec 07 1990 13:5611
    
--->     2)	It would be nice to be able to show ALL ATTRIBUTES of an entity.
--->     	Currently, you can only see the various partitions.
    
    I am confused by this. By definition, all attributes must be part
    of a partition. Therefore if you show all the attributes from all
    of the partitions, you should be seeing them all. Instead do you
    mean that you want to see all of the attributes for this entity
    and all of its children?
    

530.2Maybe he wants it to work like FCL PM...CHRISB::BRIENENDECmcc Bridge|Station Management.Fri Dec 07 1990 15:359
Just a guess:

 Maybe he's wondering why he can specify the ALL ATTRIBUTES group using
 the FCL PM, but isn't allowed to with the Iconic Map PM.
 Something like ALL ATTRIBUTES would be really nice for entities with only
 a few attributes, but attributes that are spread across multiple Partitions
 (e.g. Bridge's PHYSICAL ENTRY).

							Chris
530.3SMAUG::BELANGERQuality is not a mistake!Mon Dec 10 1990 11:1910
    
    RE: .2
    
    This is exactly what I'm looking for.  In addition, in a couple of
    respects the ICONIC MAP has reduced functionality.  Namely, what the
    user can manage (only registered objects) and what the user can see
    (only attribute partitions).  System and Netywork Manager's coming from
    the FCL environment may have a problem with this.
    
    ~Jon.
530.4VERNA::V_GILBERTMon Dec 10 1990 11:4411
Jon,

In the Iconic Map, the user can see both attribute partitions and attribute
groups which are defined in the MSL.

Being able to display all attributes from all partitions in one management
window is a good one (and has also been mentioned by others).  I'll put it
on a list for V1.2.

Thanks for the input.
Verna
530.5T1.1 IMPM nit/suggestionMCDOUG::MCPHERSONi'm only 5 foot oneThu Dec 13 1990 15:5420
    Re .last few
    
    You can "sorta" do a "SHOW ALL ATTR" if you chose the "List Box" rather
    than the "Pulldown Menu" interaction style and just select each of the
    attribute partitions before hitting the "start" button.   The *problem*
    with that is you get a separate window pop for each attribute partition
    selected.   I DO agree that it'd be nice to see all attributes displayed
    on a single form.
    
    Now to add my own to the "nice to have" list:
    
    It'd be nice if: I didn't have to re-do the entire form for a rule
    every time I mis-type an item.  When creating an alarm rule from the
    IMPM, if you fill out the form incorrectly and then hit the "OK"
    button, the rule creation will fail.  Fine. Even though the IMPM does
    give me another shot at redemption by giving me a new form, it doesn't
    make it easy (I get a BLANK form for the rule).    Why can't I just get
    my *original* form back with the bogus fields either flagged or erased?   
    
    /doug
530.6VERNA::V_GILBERTFri Dec 14 1990 08:5110
Doug,

Your wish is our command. 

If you make an error in the rule form, the original form is redisplayed for 
you to fix.  Also the big add entity form now has resizing capability. 

These fixes will be in the next version of the software.

Verna