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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

305.0. "SNMP AM, MIB extensions" by MKNME::DANIELE () Tue Sep 04 1990 14:36

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Hello,

I work in the french technology ACT, where I spend 120% of time on EMA, DECmcc 
and all things that revolve around network management. I have had some 
questions from customers, concerning the management of TCP/IP networks, to
which I hope someone will be able to provide an answer. I am afraid my 
knowledge of SNMP is not what I would like it to be, so I hope these 
questions make sense.

1) Does the DECmcc SNMP access module support MIB extensions ? If we wanted to
support extensions, would that mean modifying the definition of SNMP Child
objects in the dictionnary ? Or would it be necessary to modify the AM as
well - I am thinking mainly of the dispatch tables - (in other words : no
go, DEC does not supply sources !) ? 

2) In the MCC notesfile, it is mentionned that CMIP encoding routines 
interface can be obtained internally for developments. If we have to develop 
a specific AM for a customer to manage entities which "talk" SNMP but for 
which we wish to support MIB extensions, would SNMP encoding routines be 
available as a library ?

3) Finally, if we have to develop something from scratch, can you give me 
some indication of the effort necessary (the mythical man-month !) to 
develop an SNMP Access module ? This information will also be useful for one 
context where we will have to manage some systems which support TCP/IP but 
not SNMP (they have a specific protocol instead). An alternative in this 
latter case may be to develop an SNMP agent on the said system... but I 
don't like the idea of developping on non-DEC systems. 
    
P.S. Is this the right place for these questions or should I cross-post
them in TOOK::MCC ?
    
    Thanks, cordialement,
    
    Philippe.
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	Hello Phillipe,

	The general questions are certainly applicable to this conference.
	Some of the DECmcc specifics are less so, but other readers may
	ignore it.  I'll cross-post in TOOK::MCC.

> 1) Does the DECmcc SNMP access module support MIB extensions ? 

	V1.0 does not support extensions.

> If we wanted to support extensions, would that mean modifying the 
> definition of SNMP Child objects in the dictionnary ? 

	Probably adding new child entities, perhaps even global.  But not 
	modifying existing ones, since they map to MIB I, which still exists.

> Or would it be necessary to modify the AM as well - I am thinking mainly of 
> the dispatch tables - (in other words : no go, DEC does not supply sources 

	Yes, this too.  MSL provides no way to specify object identifiers, so 
	at the very least, this info has to be updated within the AM.
	It's just a nit, but actually the dispatch tables would not have to be
	modified, there is only 1 entry point per directive.

> 2) In the MCC notesfile, it is mentionned that CMIP encoding routines 
> interface can be obtained internally for developments. If we have to develop 
> a specific AM for a customer to manage entities which "talk" SNMP but for 
> which we wish to support MIB extensions, would SNMP encoding routines be 
> available as a library ?

	Version 1.1 of the access module will support extensions,  I can't say
	yet exactly to what extent.  Current thinking is for DECmcc engineering
	to handle the major players ( Wellfleet, cisco, Proteon, SynOptics, 
	etc. ) specifically, and leave hooks in the AM for further mods.

	I don't believe an SNMP library will be required, the modifications
	required will be to the mcc dictionary/parse tables, and to the
	AM's table of known SNMP objects.

> 3) Finally, if we have to develop something from scratch, can you give me 
> some indication of the effort necessary (the mythical man-month !) to 
> develop an SNMP Access module ? 

	If we do it right, about a week.  Assuming you know everything about
	the managed system.  That is, you have MSL for it.

> An alternative in this 
> latter case may be to develop an SNMP agent on the said system... but I 
> don't like the idea of developping on non-DEC systems. 

	Well, there is agent code floating about somewhere.  See notes 10 & 16.

	Regards,
	Mike
305.2SelectMKNME::DANIELETue Sep 04 1990 14:421
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