| Title: | DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT. |
| Notice: | Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187 |
| Moderator: | TAEC::BEROUD |
| Created: | Mon Aug 21 1989 |
| Last Modified: | Wed Jun 04 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
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Note 173.0 VAPOR WARE????? 2 replies
POCUS::BOLT 21 lines 14-AUG-1990 20:03
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Is there anyone out there who can point me in a direction to learn
about how our DECmcc products and strategy compare to the following
network managements products that my customer thinks is the greatest
since slice bread. He unfortunately did not go to DECWORLD and did not
see DECmcc so he thinks it's all vapor ware like what some trade rags
are saying. If anyone can proved some info on the products (good and
bad) so I can head off the customer from buying a bunch of point
solutions would be greatly appreciated.
What's the scope on:
*HP's LanPro
*NetWork Progessional by TE Conepts
*Novell Lanturn
*WatchTower (don't know who sells it)
*Micro Lans (runs on Sun workstations)
*Novell's Lanalizer
Thanks,
Cindy
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| 295.1 | The datascope market | ENUF::GASSMAN | Fri Aug 31 1990 10:15 | 14 | |
Cindy, your note was answered in the NETMGT notes file, but to say it
again, the product you mention are mostly LAN analyzer products. They
involve specialized hardware probes that sit on a LAN, and report
information either directly, or via a network connection (typically
Ethernet and/or ascii transport). Digital is really not in the
business of datascopes, with the exception of LTM (LAN traffic
monitor). The strategic vendor program, and MCC product management
have been looking into working with some of the datascope vendors, with
the hopes of incorporating their functions into DECmcc in the future.
There are several probes on the market we would love to OEM, and there
are some datascopes we'd like to get information from. Nothing has
progressed past the point of wishfull thinking however.
bill
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| 295.2 | Where cost savings go | ENUF::GASSMAN | Fri Aug 31 1990 10:19 | 11 | |
If I can make another point, you should probably NOT be telling the
customer to not purchase datascopes. While DEC end user products
typically do not require the use of datascopes, some of the 'cheaper'
protocols and applications do tend to cause weird symptoms to occur on
a customer's LAN. The cost of a datascope and the people to use it
makes up part of the hidden cost of buying less engineered products.
The more multivendor your customer is, the most they will require a
datascope. One good solution is to make use of the service groups, to
help recommend the right one for the job.
bill
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