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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

212.0. "MM Development Cycle" by COOKIE::KITTELL (Richard - Architected Info Mgmt) Fri Jul 27 1990 11:47

I'm wondering how far I can go with development before I have to start
officially registering Classes and Directives. I've been working with
the design framework's pseudo entities (a great help for the novice, thanks)
but will soon be moving to creating instances of new global entities.

I'm presuming that there is a way to do my development work in such a way
that I operate out of a DNS sub-directory instead of .MCC, and hence
won't conflict with anything on the E-net. True?

If not, then I need to get a registered code for any global entity and 
directive I invent, before I create an instance of said entity. Right?
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212.1get a codeGOSTE::CALLANDERMon Jul 30 1990 18:169
    
    Well, personal opinion, is that you should get yourself a registered
    code. But...as to your problem you can always get around registering
    by simply NOT registering your entity. The FCL PM does not require
    that an entity be registered to enter commands against it. The only
    stipulation is that you use the primary identifier that is recognized
    by the entity. Like using the address of a bridge and not a name
    (which needs to be registered).
    
212.2How to get a code?COOKIE::KITTELLRichard - Architected Info MgmtMon Aug 06 1990 19:226
I've tried sending mail to DSSR::REGISTER and asking what the procedure
is to register a global entity or directive (there *must* be a form to
fill out...).

No response. Can anyone help?
212.3Bob's the right person, nag if necessaryCAPN::SYLORArchitect = Buzzword GeneratorMon Aug 06 1990 22:0214
You did the right thing, DSSR::REGISTER is the place to go. Bug Bob for
a reply if you don't get one quickly.

The basic answer is write a description of the overall global entity,
what sort it is, what its for and such (I don't know if Bob has a form for
that). Bob will pass that around to other implementors and to me as keeper
of the global entities to make sure it doesn't collide with some other
architect/developer doing the same thing.

					Mark

PS By the way, other MCC AM developers haven't yet submitted their global 
entities for review. I expect them all to be rubber stamped, but there's a 
bit of formal process to be covered.
212.4Got it, thanks.COOKIE::KITTELLRichard - Architected Info MgmtTue Aug 07 1990 11:0613
Bob sent me mail. Going back to the topic of the base note, I think the
asnwer is, "you don't get codes until your whole management spec is reviewed
and accepted".

As a complete novice at this I want to try a lot of it before settling on
how I want to do it. Submitting such MSLs would be wasting everyone's time.
So as long as I keep to my own name space and don't collide with anything
already in the dictionary (DAP tells me when I do), I'll make up my codes
and experiment away.

I'm glad to see that there is a formal review mechanism in place, that will
give me more confidence that my MSL is reasonable.
212.5MARVIN::COBBGraham R. Cobb (Wide Area Comms.), REO2-G/H9, 830-3917Thu Aug 09 1990 13:2515
> Bob sent me mail. Going back to the topic of the base note, I think the
> asnwer is, "you don't get codes until your whole management spec is reviewed
> and accepted".

I believe  (hope!) you misinterpreted Bob's reply.  I am fairly sure he will
be willing to assign you a global entity code as soon as you need one (there
is  no  shortage of them!).  Lower level codes do, indeed, require some sort
of  specification (although it shouldn't need to be too formal).  Of course,
ideally you will have your spec and it can all be reviewed at once.

The assignment  of  the codes and the incorporation of the MSL into the DSSR
library  can  happen  at  different  times (although codes won't be assigned
until the registration process is at least started).

Graham