Conference azur::mcc

    John,
    
    A quick few questions. Have you installed a previous version of
    MCC? and if so what were you using it for (development of management)?
    What version of VMS are you running?
    
    The FCL PM is unable to find the parse tables that the installation
    procedure should have placed in the mcc_system (logical) directory.
    Could you also check to see if the mcc_system logical has been defined,
    and what files are located in that directory?
    
    thanks
    

    
    Thanks a lot for the pointer to look at the various logicals.  In the
    startup file MCC_STARTUP_DIR.COM the logical MCC_SYSTEM pointed at
    MCC_SPECIFIC and MCC_COMMON.   
    
    Changing the line "$ def/syst/exec mcc_system   mcc_specific,mcc_common
    
                                       to
    
           "$ def/syst/exec mcc_system sys$specific:[mcc],sys$common:[mcc]
    
    Resolved the problem.   The startup procedure now works as expected,
    and I can invoke MCC with the "MANAGE/ENTERPRISE" command.
    
    Thanks for your help,
        
    John

Hi,

  you might want to check the MCC_STARTUP_DIR.COM file again.  during
the installation, a number of logicals are created (mcc_common, mcc_tdf,
mcc_node_idp, etc.).  they are defined based upon user input.  the user 
is then instructed to uncomment the definition of these logicals in the 
MCC_STARTUP_DIR.COM file, with site-specific modifications.  in the 
MCC_STARTUP_DIR.COM file, before the line that you modified,  are the 
following lines.

$! Uncomment and modify the next 2 commands to reflect the actual 
$! value for mcc_common
$! Call deassign_logical mcc_common                              <<<<<<<<<<
$! define/system/EXECUTIVE_MODE mcc_common   sys$common:[mcc]    <<<<<<<<<<
$ Call deassign_logical mcc_specific
$ define/system/EXECUTIVE_MODE mcc_specific sys$specific:[mcc]
$ Call deassign_logical mcc_system

with the 2 commands (annotated by <<<<<<<<<<) appropriately uncommented, and 
modified, the line that you modified:


$ define/system/EXECUTIVE_MODE mcc_system   mcc_specific,mcc_common

should be okay.  if the 2 commands are not appropriately uncommented, your
change will give you a value for mcc_system, but when next you boot, you
will not have a definition for mcc_common.   also the mcc_tdf, and mcc_node_idp
logicals are defined in the same manner as mcc_common.


regards,

\steve

             <<< Note 202.2 by PANIC::GILL "John, DTN 847-5849" >>>
                     -< Logicals giving problems - Thanks >-

    
    Thanks a lot for the pointer to look at the various logicals.  In the
    startup file MCC_STARTUP_DIR.COM the logical MCC_SYSTEM pointed at
    MCC_SPECIFIC and MCC_COMMON.   
    
    Changing the line "$ def/syst/exec mcc_system   mcc_specific,mcc_common
    
                                       to
    
           "$ def/syst/exec mcc_system sys$specific:[mcc],sys$common:[mcc]
    
    Resolved the problem.   The startup procedure now works as expected,
    and I can invoke MCC with the "MANAGE/ENTERPRISE" command.
    
    Thanks for your help,
        
    John

    
    RE: .3
    
    I too got burnt by the logicals having been commented out by 
    MCC installation procedure.  Since the installation procedure 
    does ask what the values of these logicals should be, I had 
    EXPECTED the INSTALL procedure to set them up accordingly.  Why is the
    user asked to do that same thing over by having to go through a 
    tedious, redundant step to make DECmcc functional.
    
    It may be OK to display the message about the user being able to
    change the logicals, if necessary.  I suggest that the installation 
    procedure not comment out the logicals.  It's good to know that DECmcc 
    installation leaves SYSTARTUP_V5.COM alone.  However, it should provide 
    a SINGLE DECmcc startup file that can be used without further tweaks 
    to start various components.  The system manager will then need to add
    only a single line in SYSTARTUP to call this file, as is generally the
    case with other LPs.
    
    Muhammad