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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

111.0. "PSI security PM/FM/AM ??" by RICARD::WLODEK (Network pathologist.) Fri Apr 27 1990 11:51

    Lost of our customers complain about difficulty of use of VAX P.S.I.
    security. PSI security is difficult and user interface is rather
    lousy. I've been discussing it now and then with PSI Engineering and
    their attitude is that VAX PSI provides a basic structure for 
    security and providing fancy user interface was not in their business
    plans. Fair enough. Stand alone PSI security product wouldn't be
    justified either ( hm.. who knows ??). Anyway, now, with MCC we have a
    nice framework for that sort of products and maybe a reasonable
    business model as well .( I know nothing about it but assume that
    customers would be able to by a set of PM/FM/AM for providing a
    certain function, like PSI security).


    	So, I have some ideas what functions system managers would like 
    to have to manage PSI security. A future product would include a
    PM/FM and maybe an AM if not all security functions can be managed via 
    CMIP. 

    How shell one start such project ? Are there any MCC product managers 
    looking for new MCC applications ?

    					thanks for advice,

    							Wlodek
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111.1request passed to Project MgtGOSTE::CALLANDERSun Apr 29 1990 19:238
    
    I have forwarded your request to Hakim Dhilla and Daniel Holland,
    two of our product managers. Hopefully you will hear from them directly,
    or via this conference.
    
    jill
    
    
111.2MARVIN::DAVISONEric DavisonTue May 01 1990 08:476
P.S.I. Engineering are offended by the "user interface is rather lousy"
statement in .0 - if you can't be polite then please don't use public
conferences.

Eric
111.3BISTRO::WLODEKNetwork pathologist.Tue May 01 1990 09:1523
    Oh, c'mon Eric ! The user interfaces is just bare bones.
    It gives you everything you need to fully control smallest item of the
    security. But the whole system and ACLs are too complex for customers.
    A similar concerns has been voiced in VMS community about ACLs for a
    long time. This is an opportunity for a product that hides internal
    complexities and mechanisms and provides functions in terms of customer
    needs . 

    Translate statement like :

    "Disable access from all DTEs except this ones"

    to series of identifiers and ACLs creations .

    Market has changed, less technical people manage systems, something
    that was excellent and industry high tech few years ago is simply not 
    acceptable today. 

    					wlodek

    ps. If you don't like the word "lousy", I'm sorry, it should have been
    "difficult to use or prohibitive".