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Conference orarep::nomahs::rdb_business

Title:rdb_business
Moderator:NOVA::FEENAN
Created:Mon Jan 09 1995
Last Modified:Thu May 29 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:153
Total number of notes:620

146.0. "Official source of all latest-version releases ?" by NOMAHS::SECRIST (Rdb WWS; [email protected]) Thu Feb 13 1997 16:16

    
    	What is the official, central, and UP-TO-DATE source of
    	Rdb product family version releases ?
    
    	Internally the closest is the "Handy Rdb7 Min/Max Version
    	Chart" in Excel at:
    
    	  http://nehost.us.oracle.com:2080/market/home.html
    
    	...but off the top of my head this doesn't reflect 6.0 ECO 6 
    	and I haven't checked the rest of it.  
    
    	I have to admit to a certain ignorance of the DBI stuff, which
    	has the "Handy Rdb7 Distributed Products Min/Max Version
    	Chart" in Excel at the same HTTP address as above.  It seems
    	current, but since people seem to refer to all of the 
    	non-relational gateways as NSDS 3.0D (whatever NSDS means)
    	I'm not sure whether the RMS gateway is NSDS (wouldn't "D"
    	mean 3.0.4 ?) since the "PC Data" gateway is at 3.1.1 and
    	DBMS is at 1.0.2.  Maybe RMS is the only non-relational
    	gateway ?  There are never ECOs in DBI, only MUPs, right ?
    
    	Publically the "Product Matrix" in Acrobat at:
    
    	  http://www.oracle.com/products/servers/rdb/html/index.html
    
    	seems to be an older version of the above from August 1996,
    	which means it is obviously behind.
    
    	These seem to be the most official and central sources,
    	although there are others.
    
    	Regards,
    	rcs
    
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146.1For at least Rdb :)BOUVS::OAKEYI'll take Clueless for $500, AlexThu Feb 13 1997 16:5915
~~     <<< Note 146.0 by NOMAHS::SECRIST "Rdb WWS; [email protected]" >>>
~~             -< Official source of all latest-version releases ? >-

~~    	What is the official, central, and UP-TO-DATE source of
~~    	Rdb product family version releases ?

Well, I don't know what your definition of "official" is and it only covers 
Rdb but check out...

	http://nehost.us.oracle.com:2080/mce/mup_eco_info.html

It lists all the ECOs and MUPs as well as hot links to most of the Release 
Notes.  This page is typically updated with a few days of when the release 
becomes available.
    
146.2Sorry for the oversight !NOMAHS::SECRISTRdb WWS; [email protected]Fri Feb 14 1997 10:0618
    
    	Thanks.  Your page is one of the best resources -- sorry I forgot
    	to mention it.  Since you had that covered it was more the rest
    	of the brood I was concerned with since I didn't know what level
    	of frequency is anticipated out of the matrix.  In all honesty
    	the matrix is kept fairly up to date to, but not as quick on the
    	draw as you are.  People are starting to eye 7.0 more seriously
    	so it is becoming more of an issue, so I thought I'd check into
    	it.
    
    	Regards,
    	rcs
    
    	P.S. -- Weaverville, NC now has a home page.  I had to nuke my
    	machine since then and didn't save the pointer to it.  It took
    	all year for it to come up last time.  I found it through
    	AltaVista.
    
146.3It is a group effort ;)BOUVS::OAKEYI&#039;ll take Clueless for $500, AlexFri Feb 14 1997 11:0319
~~     <<< Note 146.2 by NOMAHS::SECRIST "Rdb WWS; [email protected]" >>>
~~                         -< Sorry for the oversight ! >-

~~    	Thanks.  Your page is one of the best resources -- sorry I forgot

No, thank you!  Nice to know that someone uses it :)

~~    	to mention it.  Since you had that covered it was more the rest
~~    	of the brood I was concerned with since I didn't know what level

As for the coverage - we cheat ;)  We maintain both the system and the page 
which lets us get updates in pretty quickly where some other groups may be 
pretty busy with other tasks and, in some cases, also have to deal with 
other groups.

I can't take all the credit myself either ;)  The rest of the crowd (Norm 
particularily) reminds me when there is a new update and makes the HTMLs 
for the Release Notes for me :)

146.4UKVMS3::PJACKSONOracle UK Rdb SupportFri Feb 14 1997 12:094
    Are the html versions of the release notes available to customers,
    anywhere on the web?
    
    Peter
146.5DUCATI::LASTOVICAIs it possible to be totally partial?Fri Feb 14 1997 12:132
WWS is supposed to be handling this.  I'm told that Mary Morman (MEMORMAN@US)
is responsible.
146.6Release notes are available on MetalinkNOMAHS::SECRISTRdb WWS; [email protected]Fri Feb 14 1997 17:1194
    
    	Release notes, installation guides, and ECO kits are maintained 
    	on the internal and external web on the Metalink support service.
    	The system is accessible to any OracleMetals (bronze, silver,
    	gold) customer without additional charge as well as Oracle
    	employees (see below; ask your manager about employee access).
    
    	Note that full binary kits (e.g. 7.0) or binary MUPs (e.g. 6.1A)
    	are *not* available on Metalink, only ECO kits (e.g. 6.1 eco 5)
    	and the ODBC drivers are available, as well as the release notes 
    	and installation guides for all recent versions.  A limited
    	amount of product documentation and technical articles are
    	also presently available.  We are in the process of bringing 
    	everything completely up to date and expanding what is available
    	now.
    
    	Regards,
    	rcs
    
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146.7UKVMS3::PJACKSONOracle UK Rdb SupportMon Feb 17 1997 05:3612
>    	Release notes, installation guides, and ECO kits are maintained 
>    	on the internal and external web on the Metalink support service.
>    	The system is accessible to any OracleMetals (bronze, silver,
>    	gold) customer without additional charge as well as Oracle
>    	employees (see below; ask your manager about employee access).
    
    This is not quite correct. UK customers at least do not have access to
    Metalink currently. We are using OCIS. I believe it is planned that it
    should be replaced by Metalink eventually, but I am trying to get the
    information into our current system.
        
    Peter
146.8What is the Asia Pacific Policy ?NOMAHS::SECRISTRdb WWS; [email protected]Mon Feb 17 1997 09:0613
    
    	Thanks for the correction Peter -- good point.  I didn't think
    	about each region doing it their own way.  Does anybody know
    	what the policy in Asia Pacific is ?
    
    	Does the whole planet use www.oracle.com, or is that broken up
    	by geography too ?  Does it make any difference if internal
    	people get internal access from other geographies, or is it
    	frowned upon ?
    
    	Regards,
    	rcs
    
146.9UKVMS3::PJACKSONOracle UK Rdb SupportMon Feb 17 1997 10:079
    Everyone can access www.oracle.com. I believe it is only the support
    facilities that require authorization that are split - probably so that
    granting authorization can be done locally. The UK location is
    www.oracle.co.uk. To get authorized call the UK support centre.
    
    I checked with my manager and we are supposed to be going to Metalink
    "soon". First we would need to give our customers CIS numbers.
    
    Peter 
146.10ORAREP::SMARTT::DGAUTHIERTue Apr 29 1997 11:409
    Trying to acess  http://nehost.us.oracle.com:2080/mce/mup_eco_info.html
    
    got...
    
     DNS Domain 'nehost.us.oracle.com' is invalid: Host not found
    (authoritative).
    
    
    -dave
146.11HOTRDB::LASTOVICACan you be a closet claustrophobic?Tue Apr 29 1997 11:543
    I'm not surprised.  This system is on the Oracle network and you appear
    to be on the Digital network.  I'd recommend that you call oracle
    support for this information.
146.12Try MetaLink SoonNOMAHS::SECRISTRdb WWS; [email protected]Tue Apr 29 1997 23:148
    
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    in the near future.  Please watch MetaLink for further details.  I
    can post more specific information later.
    
    Regards,
    rcs