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Title:Alpha Developer Support
Notice:[email protected], 800-332-4786
Moderator:HYDRA::SYSTEM
Created:Mon Jun 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3722
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3514.0. "Scandinavian Softline Technology Oy" by HYDRA::AXPDEVELOPER (Alpha Developer support) Mon Apr 21 1997 06:48

    Company Name :  Scandinavian Softline Technology Oy
    Contact Name :  Hu Rui
    Phone        :  +358-9-5495 6202
    Fax          :  +358-9-512 4629
    Email        :  [email protected]
    Date/Time in :  21-APR-1997 04:18:20
    Entered by   :  Simon Cole
    SPE center   :  REO

    Category     :  nt
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I use Alpha Station 255. I would like to know what is the price for NT as
work station. 

Regards.

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Hu Rui		 (Oracle Support No.        14428)
R&D, SMS Unit    (Digital ASAP Support No. A60205)
Scandinavian Softline Technology Oy
Tulkinkuja 3   02600 ESPOO   Finland
Tel +358-9-5495 6202  Fax +358-9-512 4629
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3514.1More questionsLORDS::COLEShare and enjoyMon Apr 21 1997 06:5255
From:	COLE 
To:	VBORMC::"[email protected]"
CC:	COLE
Subj:	RE: FWD: NT on Alpha

Hu,

>> The good news is that Windows NT workstation for Alpha is the same price and 
>> onthe same CD as the Intel version. This is also true for Windows NT ServerI 
>> do not have a Finnish price for it but If you go to your local PC 
>> supermarket, if you have such things, you should be able to pick it up off 
>> the shelf.

> Do you means the NT on Alpha and on Intel processor are exactly the same?

Yes, as near as it can be and that is very close. It uses the same source code, 
same structures, same APIs, only the instructions are different (but if you use 
FX!32 you can run Intel binaries on Alpha hardware. Check it out!!!). This may 
lead to some imcompatibilitues when developing device drivers and other such low 
level codes.

> We are also mocrosoft's developing partner. Most of our programmers are
> using Win NT. If I installed NT should I get support from Digital or
> Microsoft?

NT support, for both Alpha and Intel, comes from Microsoft. You can also get NT 
support from Digital if you have a support contract with us. However, if you are 
developing for Alpha NT you can get development support through the ASAP 
programme.

> How NT is implemented on Alpha, it is on the Mach or directly on the
> processor. I suppose that Digtial Unix and NT are applications on the
> micro-kernal am I right?

NT sits on top of a Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL). This is true for all 
versions of NT. We just have an Alpha HAL insted of an Intel HAL. There is no 
common micro-kernal between NT and Digital unix.

> Can I running Digital Unix 4.0B and NT at the same time?

No. You can run Digital unix and Windows NT on the same box but you have to 
re-boot between them. Infact in your case, owning a 255, you will also have to 
change the firmware each time you want to boot between NT and unix. This is not 
true for most other Alpha systems.

> Does our ASAP member cover NT support.

See above.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Simon