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Title:Alpha Developer Support
Notice:[email protected], 800-332-4786
Moderator:HYDRA::SYSTEM
Created:Mon Jun 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3722
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3331.0. "Manugistics, Inc." by HYDRA::DORHAMER () Mon Mar 17 1997 14:29

    Company Name :  Manugistics, Inc.
    Contact Name :  Ron Gibson
    Phone        :  301-984-5324
    Fax          :  
    Email        :  [email protected]
    Date/Time in :  17-MAR-1997 14:25:31
    Entered by   :  Karen Dorhamer
    SPE center   :  MRO

    Category     :  UNIX
    OS Version   :  
    System H/W   :  AlphaServer 2000 4/200


    Brief Description of Problem:
    -----------------------------

    #6          17-MAR-1997 10:41:24.38                                 
1997-03
From:   SMTP%"[email protected]"
To:     "'Alpha-dev'" <[email protected]>,        "'Culberson'" 
<culb
[email protected]>
CC:     Michael  McCollum <[email protected]>
Subj:   DecUnix Installation Problem

Here is the detailed information on the problem that we are having:

Config: AlphaServer 2000 4/200, 512mb Memory, 2 2GB Hard Drives,
Internal 4mm Tape Drive, CD-ROM
Serial#: ni528028vc

Detailed Error Information:

ld:
Error: Undefined
ace_cons_init
ace_tty
aceopen
aceclose
aceread
acewrite
aceselect
aceioctl
aceputc
acegetc
acerint
acexint
acestart
     Exit 1 (ignored)
chmod 755 a.out
chmod: a.out: No such file or directory
    Exit 4
Stop
    Press Return to Continue


This of course happens when we attempt a kernel build. I have seen
problem once before so if you have a fix for this we would sure like to
know what it is. If you have any other questions please let me know and
I will get right back to you.

Ron Gibson
Manugistics, Inc.
301-984-5324
[email protected]
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3331.1need more infoHYDRA::DORHAMERMon Mar 17 1997 14:4842
        #3          17-MAR-1997 14:23:47.31                                 
    NEWMAIL
    From:   HYDRA::AXPDEVELOPER "[email protected]"
    To:     SMTP%"[email protected]"
    CC:     AXPDEVELOPER
    Subj:   RE: DecUnix Installation Problem
    
    Ron,
    
    I need some more information to assist you.  What version of Digital UNIX
    are you installing?  Are you performing a new installation, or is it an
    upgrade from a previous version?  At what point do you get the kernel build
    errors?  Is it the first time that the kernel is built during the
    installation 
    process?  Or are you installing some additional subsets and then rebuilding
    the kernel?  If you are performing an upgrade, the upgrade procedure will
    sometimes indicate that you need to delete certain subsets prior to
    performing
    the upgrade, and then reinstall them after the upgrade is completed. If this
    is the case, did you follow this process?  Does the system have any patches
    installed, either before an upgrade or after the installation?
    
    There are a number of things that could cause a kernel build to fail. I have
    experienced problems under the following circumstances:
    
    - installing a subset that is not compatible with the version of the operating
      system installed.
    - installing a patch that is not compatible with the version of the operating
      system.
    
    In both of these cases, backing off the offending subset or patch should get
    you back to a state where the kernel can be built successfully.
    
    Please send me the above info and I'll try to help you resolve this problem.
    Since this is actually an installation question, as opposed to a
    porting/development question, I'd also recommend that you call our customer
    support services at 1-800-354-9000.  They may have additional 
    recommendations on how to solve this problem.
    
    Karen Dorhamer
    Alpha Developer Support
    
3331.2trying to upgrade from 3.2C to 3.2D-1HYDRA::DORHAMERMon Mar 17 1997 16:3322
        #2          17-MAR-1997 16:22:01.44                                 
    NEWMAIL
    From:   SMTP%"[email protected]"
    To:     "'[email protected]'"
    <[email protected]>
    CC:
    Subj:   RE: DecUnix Installation Problem
    
    Karen, this is an initial installation, after the software installs it
    comes to the kernel configuration and I say configure for all and let
    it
    go and it errors out to the information that I passed to you earlier.
    What I am trying to install is V3.2C and then upgrade to V3.2D-1 but I
    am running into this problem. If there is anything else I can answer
    please let me know. And also irt your suggestion to contact support we
    went through this merry-go-round this morning and they will not help us
    because they say that we do not have software support for the machine,
    even though the machine was given to us by DEC for software development
    and someone at DEC is looking into why we cannot go through normal
    channels for support on this matter.
    
    
3331.3some suggestionsHYDRA::DORHAMERMon Mar 17 1997 16:5231
        #1          17-MAR-1997 16:49:54.27                                 
    NEWMAIL
    From:   HYDRA::AXPDEVELOPER "[email protected]"
    To:     SMTP%"[email protected]"
    CC:     AXPDEVELOPER
    Subj:   RE: DecUnix Installation Problem
    
    Ron,
    
    Please try this and let me know if it helps:
    
    When the kernel is being built, and it asks you which options you want
    to build into the kernel, select "None of the above".
    
    Try this as a first step.  If it helps, and there are some kernel options 
    that you really need, then try rebuilding the kernel with only the specific
    options that you need.
    
    If this suggestion doesn't help, then please send me a listing of all of
    the subsets installed on the system, using the following command:
    
    setld -i
    
    My next recommendation will be to try to determine which subset contains 
    code that is causing the undefined symbols when rebuilding the kernel.  If
    we can determine that, then backing off a particular subset may be useful to
    resolve the problem.
    
    Karen Dorhamer
    Alpha Developer Support
    
3331.4more suggestionsHYDRA::DORHAMERMon Mar 17 1997 17:0827
        #1          17-MAR-1997 16:58:16.00                                 
    NEWMAIL
    From:   SMTP%"[email protected]"
    To:     "'[email protected]'"
    <[email protected]>
    CC:
    Subj:   RE: DecUnix Installation Problem
    
    Mark, I went through the bios utility and changed the config to DecUnix,
    and during the installation the systems recognizes all the disk drives
    and peripherals. Why would I need to run that utility if I am not having
    any problems?
    
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: [email protected]
    > [SMTP:[email protected]]
    > Sent: Monday, March 17, 1997 4:01 PM
    > To:   Ron Gibson
    > Subject:      Re: DecUnix Installation Problem
    > If the system is new or had been running Windows NT, you may have
    > forgotten
    > to run the EISA Configuration Utility (ECU).  There are separate ECU
    > floppies
    > for NT and for UNIX.
    >
    > Mark Schafer
    
3331.5more suggestionsHYDRA::DORHAMERMon Mar 17 1997 17:3228
        #1          17-MAR-1997 17:24:14.01                                 
    NEWMAIL
    From:   HYDRA::AXPDEVELOPER "[email protected]"
    To:     SMTP%"[email protected]"
    CC:     AXPDEVELOPER
    Subj:   RE: DecUnix Installation Problem
    
    Ron,
    
    It greatly matters if you have previously been running Windows NT on
    the
    machine.  To switch from NT to UNIX, you need to
    
    1. shutdown NT,
    2. using the ARC console menu select the following:
            Supplementary menu
            Setup system
            Switch to OpenVMS or DEC OSF/1
    3. power down the machine for a few seconds, then power on
    4. after system comes up in SRM console, you will see >>> prompt
    5. boot ECU diskette for OpenVMS or DEC OSF/1.  There is a separate ECU
            floppy for Windows NT.
    6. configure EISA devices
    7. follow Installation Guide steps for DIGITAL UNIX.  Do you have this
    book?
    
    
    Mark Schafer
3331.6Manugistics, Inc.HYDRA::TALATINIANTue Mar 18 1997 12:0958
From: Ron Gibson <[email protected]>
To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: DecUnix Installation Problem
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:29:08 -0500
X-Priority: 3
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1389.3)
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Mark, thank you for the information as well as Karen's help. So far I am
still in the same state as yesterday but I have tried a couple of
things:
1. I performed a clean install of 3.2c and the kernel build still failed
at the end of the installation. I let the system boot up and tried a
doconfig and select none of the above and that failed also.
2. I am now trying what Mark recommended. I found the ECU diskette for
DEC OSF and am now trying to find the documentation so I can try and
boot off this diskette. 

That is where I am now. As son as I figure out how to run this EISA
config for Unix I will attempt another installation and let you know how
it goes. Thanks again for the input so far.

Ron Gibson
Manugistics, Inc.
301-984-5324
[email protected]


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	[email protected]
> [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent:	Monday, March 17, 1997 5:05 PM
> To:	Ron Gibson
> Subject:	Re: DecUnix Installation Problem
> 
> Ron,
> 
> It greatly matters if you have previously been running Windows NT on
> the 
> machine.  To switch from NT to UNIX, you need to 
> 
> 1. shutdown NT,
> 2. using the ARC console menu select the following:
> 	Supplementary menu
> 	Setup system
> 	Switch to OpenVMS or DEC OSF/1
> 3. power down the machine for a few seconds, then power on
> 4. after system comes up in SRM console, you will see >>> prompt
> 5. boot ECU diskette for OpenVMS or DEC OSF/1.  There is a separate
> ECU 
> 	floppy for Windows NT.
> 6. configure EISA devices
> 7. follow Installation Guide steps for DIGITAL UNIX.  Do you have this
> book?
> 
> 
> Mark Schafer
3331.7HYDRA::SCHAFERMark Schafer, SPE MROTue Mar 18 1997 13:5171
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To:	"'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
CC:	Michael  McCollum <[email protected]>
Subj:	RE: DecUnix Installation Problem

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Mark, I just wanted to let you know that I ran the ECU configuration,
didn't change anything and saved the information and tried a kernel
build and it seems to be working now. I am doing a clean installation
now but that appeared to be the problem. Can you explain the
significance of running that diskette if I don't have any changes to
make? Once again I want to thank you for your assistance. Send a thank
you along to Karan as well.

Ron Gibson
Manugistics, Inc.
301-984-5324
[email protected]


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	[email protected]
> [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent:	Monday, March 17, 1997 5:05 PM
> To:	Ron Gibson
> Subject:	Re: DecUnix Installation Problem
> 
> Ron,
> 
> It greatly matters if you have previously been running Windows NT on
> the 
> machine.  To switch from NT to UNIX, you need to 
> 
> 1. shutdown NT,
> 2. using the ARC console menu select the following:
> 	Supplementary menu
> 	Setup system
> 	Switch to OpenVMS or DEC OSF/1
> 3. power down the machine for a few seconds, then power on
> 4. after system comes up in SRM console, you will see >>> prompt
> 5. boot ECU diskette for OpenVMS or DEC OSF/1.  There is a separate
> ECU 
> 	floppy for Windows NT.
> 6. configure EISA devices
> 7. follow Installation Guide steps for DIGITAL UNIX.  Do you have this
> book?
> 
> 
> Mark Schafer