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Title:Alpha Developer Support
Notice:[email protected], 800-332-4786
Moderator:HYDRA::SYSTEM
Created:Mon Jun 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3722
Total number of notes:11359

3014.0. "TRW, Inc." by HYDRA::AXPDEVELOPER (Alpha Developer support) Mon Jan 13 1997 14:01

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3014.1HYDRA::AXPDEVELOPERAlpha Developer supportMon Jan 13 1997 15:3459
3014.2NETCAD::STEFANIWed Jan 15 1997 17:2918
3014.3HYDRA::AXPDEVELOPERAlpha Developer supportMon Feb 17 1997 10:3778
From:	HYDRA::AXPDEVELOPER "[email protected]" 17-FEB-1997 10:33:58.19
To:	SMTP%"[email protected]"
CC:	AXPDEVELOPER
Subj:	RE: NT 4.0 server available?

  Regarding your recent request for information about running Windows NT 
  Version 4.0 on Digital's AlphaServer 4100.

  There is  a  bug  in  Windows  NT  4.0,  Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 1 and
  Windows  NT  4.0  Service  Pack  2  on  multiprocessor Alpha systems, e.g.
  AlphaServers  2000,  2100,  2100A,  4000 and 4100.  This bug causes memory
  pool  corruption that causes the system to crash, typically with a "System
  Service Exception" bug check.

  This problem  will  be  resolved  in Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 3.  As an
  interim   solution,   customers   may   upgrade   their   Windows  NT  4.0
  multiprocessor  AlphaServers  to Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 2, and apply
  the  "hot  fix"  (QFE)  available  from  Microsoft  via anonymous FTP from

  ftp://ftp.microsoft.com
  /bussys/winnt/winnt-public/fixes/usa/nt40/hotfixes-postSP2/Alpha-fix/

  >> Please note that I split the path name to make it fit 80 columns <<
  >> If you go direct please type the complete path on one line.      <<

  There are 2 files in this direectory:
  
    ALPHA40.EXE               1462 KB   Sat Feb 15 00:17:00 1997
    README.1ST

  The README.1ST file is appended to the end.

AlphaServer 4100 and the HCL
----------------------------

  Please note  that  the  availability  of  the  QFE  does NOT mean that the
  Alphaserver 4100 is on the Microsoft Hardware Compatibility List.  It does
  mean   that  the  QFE  will  now  allow  the  4100  to  run  the  Hardware
  Compatibility  Tests.   It  is estimated to take two more weeks before the
  4100 is listed on the HCL.


README.1ST Contents
-------------------

NOTE:  This update is to be applied only to multi-processor Alpha machines
       running Windows NT 4.0 with Service Pack 2 installed.

Installation Instructions:

* Download one of the self-extracting executables from the list below, and
  place it into an empty temporary directory on the computer to be hotfixed.

  - Alpha40.EXE  Hotfix for the Alpha platform

* Type the name of the hotfix (Alpha40, for instance).  The hotfix will
  self extract as shown below:

C:\ALPHA-FIX>ALPHA40

---

PKSFX (R)   FAST!   Self Extract Utility   Version 2.04g   02-01-93
Copr. 1989-1993 PKWARE Inc. All Rights Reserved. Registered version
PKSFX Reg. U.S. Pat. and Tm. Off.

Searching EXE: C:\ALPHA-FIX\ALPHA40.EXE
  Inflating: HALRAWMP.DLL
  Inflating: HOTFIX.EXE
  Inflating: HOTFIX.INF
  Inflating: NTKRNLMP.EXE
  Inflating: NTOSKRNL.EXE
  Inflating: Q156410.TXT
  Inflating: README.TXT
---

* Follow the instructions in the extracted Readme.txt file.

3014.4HYDRA::AXPDEVELOPERAlpha Developer supportMon Feb 17 1997 13:2433
From:	SMTP%"[email protected]" 17-FEB-1997 13:22:34.75
To:	[email protected]
CC:	
Subj:	Re: NT 4.0 server available?

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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:18:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Hide Mimura <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NT 4.0 server available?

Hi!

Thank you for the update.

We have placed a purchase order for buying an AlphaServer 4100 (4 CPUs each at 
clock rate of 466mhz) and disk array served by a HSZ50.  I also got a good 
news from my Sales Rep. that Windows NT 4.0 will finally be certified by 
MicroSoft in early March.

I hope there would be Service Packs 3 available.  If not, I will take your 
advice and install Service Packs 2 and QuickFix when I get it.

Thank you,

Hidetomi Mimura
TRW, Inc.
3014.5HYDRA::AXPDEVELOPERAlpha Developer supportMon Mar 31 1997 10:0339
From:	SMTP%"[email protected]" 28-MAR-1997 18:51:08.15
To:	[email protected]
CC:	
Subj:	NFS server/client software for NT 4.0 Server

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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:49:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Hide Mimura <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
Subject: NFS server/client software for NT 4.0 Server

Hi!

AlphaServer 4100 that we ordered is finally hit our Receiving Dock.  We will
start installing Windows NT 4.0 Server next week.  Thanks for all the help you
guys provided to me.

I have few more questions:

 o Are there NFS server/client for alpha-based Windows NT 4.0?  I checked
NetManage OnNet32 and FTP Software InterDriver Server, but both work only with
Intel-based machine.

 o I heard lot of good things about FX!32.  Does FX!32 (that I believe is 
included in our NT distribution media) permit any Intel-based software to run? 
What are the restrictions?

 o Does FX!32 work with kernel-mode program?  I guess not since NetManage and
FTP Software have not heard alpha-based Windows NT 4.0.

Thanks,

Hidetomi Mimura 
3014.6HYDRA::AXPDEVELOPERAlpha Developer supportMon Mar 31 1997 12:0032
From:	HYDRA::AXPDEVELOPER "[email protected]" 31-MAR-1997 10:58:56.00
To:	SMTP%"[email protected]"
CC:	AXPDEVELOPER
Subj:	RE: NFS server/client software for NT 4.0 Server

I haven't used any of these, but they are reported to be available on DIGITAL
computers running Microsoft Windows NT.  There may be others.

Hummingbird Maestro
Intergraph DiskShare & PC-NFS


http://www.service.digital.com/fx32/ has lots of info about the software.
In general, it's a very good translator.  Of course, I recommend native Alpha 
programming because you get the best possible performance.  The following comes 
from the FAQ at the site:

What software cannot be run under FX!32?

     FX!32 is designed to run end-user Win32 x86 applications. It does not run 
system applications, such as Services, device drivers, debuggers, or screen 
savers. FX!32 supports interpreters, such as Microsoft Visual Basic, but does 
not support x86 language compiler IDEs (interactive development environments). 
IDEs are typically hard-coded for a particular architecture (x86 in this case) 
and require unsupported system access for features like embedded debuggers. Run 
native compiler IDEs instead. 

Thank you,

Mark Schafer
Alpha Developer Support