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    re: DANGER::ASKETH
    
    >> just cause I'm starting this note doesn't mean I'm organizing
    >> things.
    
    Sounded like you volunteered to me.  ;-)
    
    Ok, found out where Harold Parker Forest is.  North Andover.

My 2 cents...as far as biking goes - I only have a road bike so I need pavement!
(or *very* hard packed dirt)

Have ridden through Mine's Falls Park.  Love it in there!  Wasn't crowded at all
when I was there though my friend and I did manage to crash into each other!
;-)  (can't even remember what happened now, but I have clipless pedals and 
couldn't click out of them in time so I went down ;-( )

Deane, you managed 16 mph on the Bedford trail?????  Yikes, either it must've
been dead or you must've doing a heck of a lot of weaving!!  ;-)  I tend to opt
away from the trails.

Hey, Shawn, you biker you!  Haven't heard anything from you in this note.  What
you too good for us in here??  ;-P

Barb

    
    
>    Sounded like you volunteered to me.  ;-)
    
And just how do you get me volunteering out of

    >> just cause I'm starting this note doesn't mean I'm organizing
    >> things.

???????

;-P

Hi Barb,

	Your such a good organizer though, and you already have
a lot of info... 

	Were there any pictures from your birthday party???

				Harry

    re: DANGER::ASKETH
    
    >> did manage to crash into each other
    
    Did the bubble wrap cushion the fall?  ;-)  Since you survived the
    fall, I trust/hope it wasn't that bad.
    
    >> And just how do you get me volunteering out of...
    
    Easy.  See my earlier note.  "Or maybe [s]he who brings it up,
    volunteers?..."  You organized this topic, so why not the outing too?
    
    ;-)
    
    ====================================================
    
    Ok, we have mz_deb's theatre this weekend.  Anyone have plans for the
    weekend after?  (May 3/4)  Warm weather just got here so I'm sure
    there'll be plenty of time for more trips.  I don't know when black
    fly season is, but I hope we can miss them.  The weekend after that is
    Barb's theatre weekend.  (May 10/11)
    
    I'll also collect the suggested bike trails as they're posted.

    This weekend's weather looks too good to waste.  Anyone up for a Sunday
    trip?  (hiking or biking)
    
    Bill

    Bill,
    
    I had the same thoughts this morning.  I have Angeline this weekend
    though.  I couldn't hike, but could walk far with carriage.  I could
    bike, but again, not a major.  Would be my first ride and Angeline would
    be on the back.  
    
    I am going to get out on the bike with her.  I guess we'll see if
    you get many takers.  If you don't wind up with a nice full blown
    event for this weekend, we could always cruise a bit.
    
    The next weekend, May 3 and 4th - Sunday the 4th looks real good for
    me.  Angeline will be with her Dad then.  I think Sunday's are better
    for Bob Brower too.
    
    						 cj *-> 

          cj you need an over the back baby pack :-)
    
          Well err ah we'd proabably have to wrap you in bubble wrap in the
    event you fell. :-)
    
    bob

    re: .7 by CSLALL::JACQUES_CA
    
    >> I think Sunday's are better for Bob Brower too.
    
    Exactly!  ;-)  Gotta maximize the chances for my buddy, Bob, to be able
    to make it.
    
    >> I couldn't hike, but could walk far with carriage.
    
    How does Angeline like riding in a carriage?  Ever tried carrying her
    for any distance?  I'd bet it's a good workout!  ;-)
    
    >> I could bike, but again, not a major.  Would be my first ride and
    >> Angeline would be on the back.
    
    It'll be my first, too, in a while.  I could ride motorcycles for a few
    hundred miles, but they're also a lot more comfortable than a bicycle.
    Best to start out slow and work up to longer rides in the summer.
    
    Yeah, let's see what kind of turnout we get today and tomorrow.
    
    Later,
    
    Bill

    Ha Ha Ha!  Those of you who've met and seen me with Angeline...
    do you think I can carry her far??  
    
    Sorry Bill, but it caught my funny bone.  I used to backpack
    Angeline a lot when she was smaller.  She and I both loved it.
    But I could not carry that 3ft+ 34lb little bundle of joy far
    now.  She does do well in the carriage with entertainment.  Like,
    we both loved backpacking, and now walking around places like, Boston.
    We get in the public gardens or around Fanueil and I let her out a
    bit.  
    
    Mike Foley....are you around this weekend?
    						cj *->
    
     

          cj thanks for your consideration :-) hopefully real soon I'll
    also have my saturdays free.. My kids all love riding so any Sunday
    would be fine.. Hmmm I see the possibility of a camping/biking trip
    this summer... There're some awesome trails in Bar Harbor, Maine..
    A cycle up the trails of Caddilac Mtn would be doable even for someone 
    not in good cycling shape..
          With my van I can carry 4 bikes on my carrier and another 4-5 in 
    the back with the seat out.
    
    bob

RE: .10

	Nope, I'm not.. Sorry.. Got a date Friday night, helping
	friends move saturday morning, an afternoon party to start
	the summer with (The Annual Tropics Party), and then I'm
	hopping in my car with the top down and heading up North
	to the ski club to party with the folks who skied Tuckermans
	Saturday. Sunday I'll come home and play the last floor hockey
	game of the season..

	I'm totally booked!

							mike

    I am away this weekend to New York for a wedding but would be up
    for a bike trip.  Of course I have to get the front wheel back on
    from the mountain bike I just picked up from niece.  Plus, I 
    probably need to start out with small trips, it been quite
    a few years since I rode a bike...

    We'll all make a great looking, albeit shakey, group.  Except for Bob
    of course.
    
    ;-)

I'd be up for some biking or hiking this Sunday.  Can't do trails though remem-
ber! (on my bike)

B

           Bill Barb is in great biking shape too!! Hey Barb I could always
    see if one of my kids would lend you one of their mtn bikes..
           More on shape... Running muscles and biking muscles differ
    greatly. Barb has me hands down in cycling endurance. I'm only
    good for about 45 miles in a day :-(
    
    
    bob

    re: .16 by WRKSYS::BROWER
    
    >> Bill Barb is in great biking shape too!!
    
    Who's "Bill Barb?"  ;-)
    
    I think we should stay with good solid pavement.  I don't think we
    would want cj and Angeline doing dirt trail rides.
    
    re: cycling endurance
    
    I'll be bringing along my patented tractor beam.  ;-)
    
    Bill

    Oh yes, I can see us on dirt trails now!  Even sharp corners
    kill us.  I have to take wide turns like and 18 wheeler!
    
    So we're looking at a possible small trip this Sunday?  Or
    are we focusing on maybe the 4th?   
    
    (BTW, Harold Parker forest is paved trails as well as off road.
    That's why I thought of it).
    
    						cj *->

    re: .18 by CSLALL::JACQUES_CA
    
    >> So we're looking at a possible small trip this Sunday?  Or are we
    >> focusing on maybe the 4th?
    
    We'll do both, weather permitting on the 4th.  Or at least _I_ will do
    both.
    
    We'll watch out for you and Angeline.  No bumps, no bruises, no
    tipping.
    
    Bill

>           Bill Barb is in great biking shape too!! Hey Barb I could always
>    see if one of my kids would lend you one of their mtn bikes..
>           More on shape... Running muscles and biking muscles differ
>    greatly. Barb has me hands down in cycling endurance. I'm only
>    good for about 45 miles in a day :-(
    
Woa...Hey, don't build me up too much there Bob - haven't even been out on the
bike yet this season.  Just picked it up last night from getting some new
fangled stuff on it and a tuneup.  Was gonna try and ride at lunch today but
it didn't happen...

B

           Oh cj I can picture it now.. Screaming down a hill and your
    brakes go on the fritz.. Not to worry Bill the I-beam Lin cranks
    furiously on his pedals to get infront of you. You bump slowly into
    his I-beam and come to a controlled stop.. Holy cheetos I must be
    watching too much tv lately.
           I'll bring some 10' bungie cords in case the above happens :-)
    
    bob

    	and a video camera please... :-)
    
    joyce

    .RE 22
    
    Now that would make for a good viewing party, eh? :-)
    
    						cj *->

    	Agreed, we need a video camera person for these events, then later
    we can have viewing parties and laugh till we cry :-)
    
    j

    re: video camera
    
    I suppose I could... but it would be rather dangerous unless
    I set it up like a hidden camera, with no hands or active
    aiming required.
    
    How sure are you that you want this?  I mean, picture the butt
    of the person in front of you for the whole shooting, or if
    pointed backward, someone's face.  I suppose if the person were
    to be making funny faces...
    
    Bill

    
    	 ... or had a nice butt.
    
    	Am I the only one that thinks of these things??
    

    re: .26 by BUSY::SLAB
    
    >> Am I the only one that thinks of these things??
    
    SLAB, am I the only one who sees that you NEED a straight man to
    set things up for you?
    
    ;-)

It's been brutally clear to me for quite some time.

rookies. sheesh.

    
>    	 ... or had a nice butt.
    
Ah, yes, spandex bike shorts!

;-)    

    Ok, here's what we have so far for this Sunday the 27th.
    
    Since I don't have any strong feelings toward where we bike, let's say
    we go to the Harold Parker Forest as cj suggests.  Starting time and
    duration is negotiable.
    
    We have the following interested parties:
    
    Barb
    Bob with kids (right?)
    cj and Angeline
    Bill
    
    Late participants are welcome, though make sure you contact me by 6pm
    Saturday via email so that we'll know to wait if anyone's missing at
    the rendezvous point.  This applies to cancellations, too, though you
    can probably call me right up to Sunday morning.  I'll send out my
    phone number later.

    There is also a place in Carlisle called the Meadow Brook St. Park.  It
    is a working dairy farm.  There are walking/hiking/biking trails. 
    There is a petting area with chickens, goats, cows, ducks.  There is
    also an ice-cream stand with a glass wall so you can see through into
    the cow barn.  
    
    Its a neat place for a picnic/walking/bring along the kids type
    place... 
    
    

>    There is also a place in Carlisle called the Meadow Brook St. Park.  It

 Great Brook State Park you mean?  The place where they have cross country 
trails in the winter?

    
    yup... thats the place.. (-;
    
    

    Bill, add me to the list.  Sunday is suppose to be in the 60s!!!!!!
    Haven't checked out my bikes this season yet.  I recall one of them
    shifting on its own, yeah ok, less work...but it shifts randomly!!! : )
    BUT,I'm sure I can get one of them functional.
    
    Bill, send directions and time when you have them.
    
    Thanks and see ya there!
    
    Ron  
    

    re: 34 by PCBUOA::DESHARNAIS
    
    >> Bill, add me to the list.
    
    Super!  Glad to have you along!
    
    Bill

    Wow Bill, that place in Carlisle sounds great!  Change of
    venue???
    						cj *->

    re: CSLALL::JACQUES_CA
    
    >> Wow Bill, that place in Carlisle sounds great!  Change of venue???
    
    If you prefer Carlisle, that'll be fine with me.  What was it, the ice
    cream on site?  ;-)
    
    Bill

    No, the animals.  Angeline will love that!
    
    And it's a bit more centrally located for us all.
    
    Barb, you know how to get there?
    						cj *->

That would be cool for me, I could just ride my bike over then.  Hmmm, though
I don't think there are paved trails - anyone know?  There's Mine's Falls too
to think about...

B

    	hmmm - walking, animals, ice cream - I'm thinking about this...
    
    joyce

>    	hmmm - walking, animals, ice cream - I'm thinking about this...
    
Well, if they don't have paved trails I can just get my riding in by riding
over there and then walk with Joyce...

    Hi,
    
    No paved trails...  but some really nice walking trails... and if
    anyone is into canoeing.. there is a nice size pond about 1/4 mile or
    so passed the parking area..
    
    Its also a dog friendly place.. 
    
    What time on Sunday?  
    

    This is getting complicated.  What do people want to do, walk or bike? 
    If bike, then we should probably stick to pavement.  If walk, then
    Carlisle sounds like a good spot.  I don't care either way, though I'd
    get a better workout biking, and I need the exercise.  Or do you want
    to do both?  Maybe go to Carlisle to walk a little and see the animals,
    then go somewhere else for some biking?  Obviously, there are some who
    just want the walking part...
    
    We also need to discuss the time element.  Some people just aren't
    morning people.  ;-)  I'll be up reasonably early regardless.
    
    Do what you like to do.
    
    Bill

    	Bill - the joys of wearing the social director's hat :-)
    
    joyce 

             Gee I'm not sure I can make it.. Don't have my kids this
    Sunday and have plans until just after midday..
             Carlisle is excellent for road bikes as well as mtn. If I'm
    correct they have around 30-50km of trails anything from rugged trails
    to nice wide flat trails made of stone dust. I've raced there several
    times and it's a great place. The goats and cows along with a viewing
    area inside overlooking the milking parlor are great for kids.
    Naturally their ice creams is splendid!!
             I'll hope things move along quickly on Sunday so I can join in
    the fun!!
    
    bob

    
    Hi,
    
    There is a paved road that runs through the park.  If you park in the
    parking area, you can bike up the road, and then take Rangeway rd into
    Billerica.. it is a nice ride... or you can go in the other direction
    and bike into Carlisle center, also a nice ride...
    
    So, we could meet there around 1:00pm, the bikers could bike.. the
    walkers could take a trail and we could all meet for icecream...
    
    whatdayathink?
    
    

    	Sounds like a great compromise!
    
    joyce

    re: .46 by BOOKIE::KENYON
    
    Now there's someone with a good head on her shoulders.  I think I
    should gracefully bow out and hand over the director's hat.  ;-) 
    Joyce's "shoes" are too big for my little feet to fill.  ;-)
    
    Seriously though, your suggestions will work for me.  I'll take Bob's
    word that the biking is doable.  The road through the park would be
    fine if there isn't too much auto traffic.  If I have too much energy,
    I'll just do some warmup before the main event.
    
    Bill

    
    For those coming from the south.. I could meet people in Billerica and
    we could head to the park from there...  there is a ice hockey rink
    (Tulley Forum?) just off of rte. 3...
    
    rte 3 south off of 495, take exit for rte 129, bear right at the off
    ramp, go over the highway, and take the next left.. the ice rink is
    right on the corner.. I can meet people there about 12:30ish?
    
    Also, anyone coming for Nashua could follow me over...
    contact me via-email if you are interested..
    
    Kathleen             
    
    

    
    
    I'm walking by the way... if anyone else is then let me know...
    
    

    	I'll be walking, Barb might be...
    
    joyce

    Bill, where do you live?  
    
    I'm going to be walking in Boston most of the day tomorrow (catching
    Earth Day festivities with Angeline), so I might like to bike on
    Sunday instead.  I may be able to manage a very beaten off road
    trail, if it is something like Bob's description.  Paved is, of 
    course, preferable.    
    
    Oh!  Are the animals, and all, where we'll be biking?  That makes
    a difference for me.  Otherwise, I'll have to do the hiking so
    Angeline will get the full benefit of the trip. 
    
    Kathleen or Barb, we'll need real good directions from you guys
    on where we can pick up the biking trail and where we meet up 
    with you.
    						cj *->

    Bill, you're doing a fine job!  Don't let it overwhelm you!
    As I mentioned, the people interested will have suggestions
    and eventually any event will wind up quite well organized.
    Piece of cake!           
    						cj *->

    
>    Kathleen or Barb, we'll need real good directions from you guys
>    on where we can pick up the biking trail and where we meet up 
>    with you.

Stay tuned...I'm gonna get directions from C'ford center for Joyce so I'll post
them here.  So you can either follow those or meet Kathleen at the rink and
follow her over.

Either meet Kathleen at the rink at 12:30 or meet at the GB State Park parking
lot at 1:00.

    re: .52 by CSLALL::JACQUES_CA
    
    cj, you're very kind for giving me the encouragement and for trying to
    be a biking companion.  I'll be just fine.  ;-)
    
    I don't know what to expect regarding the biking conditions and the
    proximity to the animals, but I suspect we can go find the animals even
    if we have our bikes with us.  I'll bring my bike regardless.
    
    How do you carry your bike?  I have a bike rack but it doesn't lock so
    I'd probably toss the bike into the back of the Jeep if I leave the
    bike/car unattended for any length of time.  I can probably fit another
    bike or two inside as well if anyone would like to take me up on the
    offer.
    
    Bill (from Townsend, MA)

    I can't locate Great Brook State Park on my Delorme Street Atlas map,
    but I do see a Carlisle State Forest.  Kathleen mentioned Rangeway
    Road.  I see Rangeway (going south-southwest) crossing rt. 4 then
    becoming Rutland Street before getting to Carlisle center (marked on my
    map near rt. 225).  The Carlisle State Forest is shown halfway between
    rt. 4 and rt. 225.  Is that it?

    Bill,
    
    I had asked where you live because I do not have a bike rack.
    For some reason I thought you were a New Hampster.  I can take
    my front wheel off and transport in my car.  But that's why my
    front brake is so loose now.  No sense in tightening it before
    I go.  I'll take the wheel off, and then tighten the brake once
    I get there.  
    
    And you know what else just crossed my mind???  I have no helmet.
    Are you guys going to give me flak?  Angeline has one, I just 
    never got around to one for myself last year and there's no way
    I can pick one up before the Sunday.
    
    If you're all helmet heads, perhaps Barb? you can lend me one
    for the day?
    							cj *->
    p.s
    please no lectures on safety.  My day is frustrating
    enough today

OK, here are directions through Chelmsford center on route 4.  Either follow
these directly to Great Brook or meeting Kathleen at the rink and follow her
over her way (directions to the rink are in a previous reply).


DIRECTIONS FROM ROUTE 4 IN CHELMSFORD.

OK you can get to route 4 from 495 or from the Drum Hill rotary/route 3.

From the rotary, head south on route 4.  

From 495, going NORTH, take the route 4 exit.  Take a right at the end of the 
ramp onto 4 south.

From 495, going SOUTH, you need to take the route 110 exit (there is no route
4 exit in the southbound direction).  Take a right at the end of the ramp onto
110 south/west.  At the light take a right onto Fletcher St.  At the end of 
Fletcher take a left onto route 4 south.

You'll pass the Chelmsford fire station on the left and then come into Chelms-
ford Center.  You basically want to head straight through, staying on 4 south.
You are going to have to jog a little bit to the left to go straight on 4 south.

Stay in the right lane.  You'll pass the library on the left (the back of it).
The road will fork and 4 south will go to the right.

Ok, now you're through Chelmsford center.  Stay on 4 S.  You're going to take
a right onto Concord Rd.  Concord Rd forks off to the right.  There is a service
station in the triangle the fork makes.

Stay on Concord Rd into Carlisle.  It then becomes Lowell St.

A ways down you'll see Great Brook State Park on the left.  There'll be  a big
barn and a sign for the ice cream stand.  You want to take a left onto North Rd 
(NOT Old North Road which comes before it).  The parking lot will be a little 
ways down North Rd on the left.

           It's off of rt4 South from the Chelmsford Exit off of 495. 
    You drive through Chelmsford center yuckiest intersection I've ever
    seen!! By a small shopping plaza on your left.. The road will fork to
    the right.. I'm not certain of the name of the road but there's a
    garage Pyramid or Diamond auto service at the fork.. Go right at this
    fork the park is about 2-3 miles in on the left.. There's also a Ciro's
    about midway to the park on this road.. They have great Pizza...
    
    bob

    
>    And you know what else just crossed my mind???  I have no helmet.
>    Are you guys going to give me flak?  Angeline has one, I just 

I wear one and highly recommend it but I'm not gonna give anyone else flak or
lecture.  ;-)  (I had a friend that wouldn't ride with anyone if they didn't 
wear a helmet...NOT!  Not my style...)
    
>    If you're all helmet heads, perhaps Barb? you can lend me one
>    for the day?

If I can find my old one I'll bring it along.  Oh wait a minute, I'll be on my
bike.  Well I can leave it on my stoop or something for you if I find it.  
We'll touch base over the weekend.  Oh wait, I'll see you Sat night!  Perfect!

B

>    seen!! By a small shopping plaza on your left.. The road will fork to
>    the right.. I'm not certain of the name of the road but there's a

The plaza is AFTER the turn - don't go by that or you'll miss the turn.  Look
for the service station as I said in my directions.

           Oh yeah almost forgot... You'd need 2 camcorders.. One of the
    guy most like Shawn who's present and one for and equally wild female.
    We could modify to bike helmets to accomodate the camcorders so
    wherever the helmet wearer looks the camcorder would look as well. It'd
    certainly be  a test of discipline trying not to do too much rubber
    necking :-) would also make for 2 very interesting film clips :-)
    
    bob

          Oh well I meant the plaza where CVS is... but your righ  there is
    a 2nd plaza just after the True Value Hardware Store.. If ya pass these
    you missed the fork..
    
    bb

    Thanks for the directions, Barb.  I think I can find the place now.
    
    ;-)
    
    re: Bob and video cameras
    
    I don't have one of those high-tech minicams.  I'd have a stiff neck
    afterward if I were to wear mine on my helmet.  Good suggestion about
    having more than one, and more than one point of view though.  ;-)

    
    	RE: .62
    
    	I can just picture it now ... CJ snapping her fingers at me and
    	saying, "Hey, I'm up here!".
    
    	8^)
    

          Seeing as I'll likely not be there I'll bring my melon protector
    tomorrow night. I haven't taken a tumble with it yet so it's sturdy..
    
    bob

    re: .66 by WRKSYS::BROWER
    
    Hey, what's the idea?  You backing out on us?

>          Oh well I meant the plaza where CVS is... but your righ  there is
>    a 2nd plaza just after the True Value Hardware Store.. If ya pass these
>    you missed the fork..
    
Ah....you don't go by the CVS plaza going south through the center, only north.
;-)

Here's more info...

Great Brook Dairy Farm
247 North Road
Carlisle
371-7083

"See A Real Working Dairy Farm and Explore The 950 Acre Park

Sit pondside and enjoy the beautiful country setting

Ice cream - Frozen Yogurt - Our Own Sweet Corn - Pumpkins - Gourds - Corn
Stalks - Ornamental Corn - honey - Cranberries

SEE OUR COW STORE"

That's from the yellow pages.  ;-)  Sorry not gonna attempt to draw the cow
that all that text sits in in the ad.  ;-)  Hey, they have one of those phone
book coupons!  Too bad it's a 1995 phone book.  I'll have to remember to check
my home phone book.  (buy one ice cream get one free!)

Oh yeah, I'll have my lock with me and will be able to lock another bike along
with mine...

    Speaking strictly from a male point of view... it's always best to wear
    a helmet when you are about to engage in any exercise where the
    operators may switch from high speeds to low speeds and often result in
    nasty tumbles that could produce unexpected side effects down the
    road...
    
    James :-)

    re. 65
    
    Shawn,
    
    You absolutely floored me with that one!  Can't believe you
    came up with that.  You truly are a funny man!
    
    Thanks for that laugh on a really stressed out day!  
    
    						cj *->

    Ok, so tomorrow night I get a helmet from Bob, thanks!
    
    Now, what was the final time and meeting place?  (I'm wicked
    scattered today)
    
    						cj *->

OK, here's a VERY crude map to show you through Chemlsford center.  It's really
not that bad - easier to show than describe.  Follow the v's.  ;-)  (hopefully
this won't confuse anyone more!)


        NORTH


     v Rt 4    | Rt 110
     v         |
     v Rt 495  |
============================
    \v         |
     v Fletcher|
     v----------
     v         |
     v         |
\    v Rt 4   /
 \   v       /Rt 110
  \  v      /
   \ v     /
    \v    /   Rt 129
------v--------------
Rt 110 v /
        v
        v Rt 4
       v \
      v M \			M = Mobil station
Rt 27v     |CVS	    Stop&Shop
-----v P   | 			P = Pink house
     v     |        Marshall's
     v     |
      v  L |        Baybank	L = library
       v   | Friendly's
        v--|
         v |
          v|
           v
           v Rt 4


        SOUTH

    
    	Definitely, since the course of 495 was changed to run east/west
    	instead of north south.
    
    	Barb, as well as changing the course of major highways, can you
    	turn men to stone with just a look?
    
    	8^)
    

    	re. 75 - she's too pretty to do that Shawn - maybe melt them
    though!
    
    joyce

    
    I haven't heard from anyone, so I'll assume that I'll just meet you all
    in the parking area at 1:00pm...
    
    re:  the animals and icecream are right in the parking area... you can
    take off and bike from there.... 
    
    down North Rd. and either into Billerica or into Carlisle center... 
    
    have a good weekend.. off to check on the Bud-dog... 
    
    

    No Shawn, I'm the one with the Medusa hair.  And yes, I guess
    some of my facial expressions do turn some to stone.   Only
    deserved, though ;->
    
    					cj *->

    	Now cj - don't be unkind about your appearance - you do not have
    Medusa hair - although you make some hellacious faces :-)
    
    j

    
>    	Barb, as well as changing the course of major highways, can you
>    	turn men to stone with just a look?
    
I have amazing powers you know!!  My workstation node is THEHA - goddess in
Greek.  ;-)  (loooong story)  And my PC is ATHENA.  ;-)    

    Thanks Joyce, and I know about the faces.  I've been told many
    times I could never play poker.  :-)
    
    (ok, so here comes Harry with the cards again... ;-> )
    
    						cj *->

    Thanks for offering the easy to find meeting place, Kathleen.
    I think since we all work for DIGITAL, we like doing things the
    hard way so we'll negotiate Chelmsford/rt4.  ;-)
    
    So, we can do some animal viewing and ice cream first, walk and bike
    some, then more ice cream.  Works for me.
    
    Bill

    I think the animal viewing will be us at that ice cream stand ;->
    
    Don't mess with Joyce's chocolate!  Go near my chocolate chips
    and you die!  Crush Kathleen's cone and you'll break her heart!
    And don't leave your ice cream for a second, Angeline is quicker
    than the speed of light (though not necessarily faster than Mom!)
    :-) :-)
    						cj *->
                                                      

           cj with medusa hair?? Naw your looks certainly wouldn't turn a
    man to stone either kiddo.. I figured the second camcorder would go
    on your helmet too cj :-) ... So hey cj I'm up here would work too
    :-)))
    
    
            have a happy,,
    
    bob

    	Good one cj!   When it comes to ice cream, I favor chocolate chip
    so don't get infront of me in the line and take the last! :-)
    
    j

    I suppose, with the helmet cam, we could actually record
    Ron, the human vending machine.  I expect I'd get a few
    good shots  ;->  (while dodging bottles of course!)
    
    We could split the prize money from America's Funniest
    Videos!
    
    (BTW, Bob, you have a very active imagination.  You been
    glue-sniffing with Jan?)
    						cj *->

            I get goofy when I'm under a lot of stress. Am trying to stay
    on top of 3 different projects... Ah the kind of job security I can 
    live without...
    
    bob

Another weekend missed. I am heading up to Killington for the annual  last
weekend Pickelbarrel Party and testing out my high altitude lungs 
since I just got back from Skiing in CO. It looks like I am getting
pulled into doing the PMC this year so I will need to do some serious biking
before August 23. If anybody will want company on a ride this spring and 
summer, I will be happy to join ya. Anybody else doing the PMC this year?


Dave 

>since I just got back from Skiing in CO. It looks like I am getting
>pulled into doing the PMC this year so I will need to do some serious biking
>before August 23. If anybody will want company on a ride this spring and 
>summer, I will be happy to join ya. Anybody else doing the PMC this year?

Oh yeah!!!!  Cool!!!!  This'll be my 4th PMC (see 10.?, my intro note).  My 
riding partner and I will be doing training rides most likely out of Concord 
center - you're more than welcome to join us!  

Oh, ah, and (not sure if that was a typo or not) the PMC is August 2nd and 3rd,
not the 23rd.  ;-)

Barb

    re: .89 by DANGER::ASKETH
    
    >> the PMC is August 2nd and 3rd
    
    Oh shucks, I'll be Colorado bound then.  I guess I can't start up
    the PMC tradition this year.  ;-)
    
    Bill

    	Well the ice cream eating biking walking adventure was one I'm glad
    I didn't miss - but I did get a sunburn on the back of my neck :-( 
    Nice to see familiar faces and a new one!  The ice cream at that palce
    is *awesome*!   
    
    	Thanks Bill you did a great job and it was good to see all of you!
    
    joyce

    It was great spending a beautiful afternoon with Joyce, Barb, cj,
    Kathleen, Sue, Ron, Bob, and 4 fine representatives of the younger
    set.  Thanks for the extra effort to be there, Bob.  You too, Sue.

    Sorry you got the sunburn, Joyce.  I think everyone got a good
    dose of U.V. today.  I should've offered sunblock.  I had gotten
    there an hour early and had put it on then.  Forgot about it later...

    We had five cyclists, six if you count Angeline.  cj did an
    amazing job pedaling their combined weight around.  My legs gave
    out shortly after we started.  ;-)  My legs were cramping up from
    the 45-minutes of biking I had done earlier.  Yeah, that's ticket!
    ;-)  Barb lived up to her billing, though.  She biked at least 20
    minutes to get there, biked with us, then biked home again.  Then
    she had rehearsals tonight.  Don't know how she does it.

    Oh yeah, I had a spill that no one saw.  A sharp poker of a tree
    limb jumped out and attacked me.  ;-)  No injury other than minor
    abrasions where the limb scraped my forearm.  The bike went out from
    under me but I somehow landed on my feet, running.  Too bad there
    was no video.  ;-)  Oh, and the bike only suffered a divot in the
    new seat.

    Today was wonderful!  Time to start planning the next trip, again
    either hike or bike depending on what people want to do.

    Cheers,

    Bill

    Hi,
    
    Yesterday was fun!  I'm definately up for doing it again... 
    
    (-;
    
    
    

          Yes thanks muchly for getting the ball rolling Bill. Next time we
    bring a long bungie cord to help cj up some of the hills...
          Memorable moments... The awesome icecream!! Listening to Angleine
    singing her little heart out while cj gasped for breath pedalling up a
    hill. Having my chain fall off twice... Bill was the only one to bag me
    trying to get it back on... Only the 3rd time I've ridden this bike and
    I need to adjust the shift linkage bigtime...
    
    bob

    	Where is that video camera when you need it!!!!
    
    joyce

    re: .95 by PCBUOA::DEWITT
    
    re: video
    
    I didn't think anyone would want a camcorder running while everyone was
    feeding at the trough.  ;-)
    
    By the way, if we ever do capture some video moments, I have the
    gadgets to make up video clips to put on the net.  Just a word of
    caution.  If you keep asking for video, you just might get it and it'll
    be for the whole of DIGITAL to see.  ;-)  There are some 1996 4-wheel
    drive clips in http://pces04.ako.dec.com/4x4 .
    
    Bill

    puff, puff, pant, pant....oh yeah, loved it all!  ;->
    
    But really, I did have fun.  Have got to plan a more flat route
    next time, or plan around Angeline's visitation!
    
    And Bill did a great job planning, but also a tip of the hat to
    whomever it was (Barb or Kathleen?) who suggested that location!
    EXCELLANT choice!  It had something for everyone!
    
    The biggest and bestest thanks though to all the little helping hands
    I got.  I'm just so used to doing everything myself (and forgetting
    most of what I need).  It is so appreciated when someone is so
    thoughtful as you all were yesterday.  
    
    From the borrowed helmet, to the borrowed air pumps, to the hands
    steadying the bike (now that's a big BONUS), to the company, to
    helping unload and load my bike, the cheering me on up the hills,
    and to Kathleen for the second set of eyes with Angeline while
    all else was being done.   I just felt so spoiled!  You guys are
    truly great friends.
    
    And yes, Angeline slept on the way home and we BOTH slept in the
    car in the driveway :-)
    						cj *->

    re yesterday's gathering:
    
    Great location!! Like cj says, something for everyone.
    
    I had a good time. Refreshing to be out in the WARM DRY air.
    And with such great company!
    
    Looking forward to more hiking/biking.
    I think I have some guides for bike routes/trails and
    hiking trails. Probably mostly in NH. I'll see if I can
    find it.
    
    Ron

Yesterday was awesome!!!  Thanks for pulling it together Bill and thanks to
Kathleen (not me) for the idea of Great Brook Farm.  Neat place!  Have been by
it many times, on my bike and in my car, but never stopped.  Great ice cream 
too!  Was great to see everybody and to get some riding in.  My first time out
this season.

Am definitely up for doing this again!!  Hmmm, maybe I can borrow  my sister's
mountain bike or something so I can hit the trails!  ;-)

Barb

    Even though I was "child-occupied," and couldn't chat a whole lot, it was 
    nice to see you all on Sunday and meet a couple of people I hadn't met
    yet.  My children got a kick out of meeting people from work and they
    loved the ice cream.  (I did learn that I need to work on instilling the
    joys of hiking into my son - or else just go by myself next time. ;^) )
                     
    Oh, and thanks for the ice cream Barb.  It was peanut butter cup flavor,
    yum!
    
    Susan
    

           Susan,
    
         I'll be child occupied at some of these family oriented events as
    well. A lot of us lead a double life with and without our children...
    So we can relate to the demands being put upon us by our children. 
    FWIW your kids were fine.. They were cute and very courteous and
    excited in the strange new surroundings.. Maybe we need to look into
    a hike with a nature tour of sorts.. 
    
    Bob

          Any plans for another bike/hike outing in the near future?? My
    kids would all be up for some mountain biking. I do need to eco my bike
    rack so it'll hold 4 bikes instead of 2. Now if only I could find an
    el cheapo canoe :-)
    
    bob

    re: .102 by WRKSYS::BROWER
    
    Bob, forecasts show Saturday to be the better of the two days.  I think
    I'll try to do something on Saturday after helping Kathleen.
    
    Bill

    Anyone up for some biking at Mine's Falls in Nashua on Saturday
    afternoon?  I've never been there, but it sounds like a good biking
    location.  Probably a couple hours worth of hard riding.  ;-)  In case
    that scares anyone, I will probably only be able to do casual biking
    myself.  ;-)  My legs have barely recovered from last Saturday.
    
    Time would be around 2pm.  Don't know yet.  Depends on some further
    discussions with Kathleen's moving crew.
    
    Bill

    re: .104
    
    Hey Bill, I'm interested Mine's Falls.  I've been wanting
    to check it out.  Will be able to commit better as the week
    progresses, but looks good!!
    
    Hope this weather sticks around!!!!!!
    
    Ron

    I too will just have to see how my Saturday develops.  I'm
    hoping I won't be able to make it though ;->
    
    						cj *->

    There is some logic in there somewhere... "I'm hoping I won't be able
    to make it"... (-;
    
    

    re: .106 by CSLALL::JACQUES_CA
    
    Just get the sitter for Saturday night!  Enjoy your day, whatever
    mischief you're up to.  ;-)

    yup, there is!  ;->
    
    But if I am free, I will go biking.  Bill, maybe you can give
    me a call Saturday morning and I'll see what plans you wound 
    up with and compare them to mine.
    
    I'll give you the number off-line.
    
    						cj *->

    cj, how about if I bring the icecream and Bill brings the cows and
    chickens?!
    Would you come then?  huh?

    Ron,
    
    Those are to bribe my daughter!   She will be with her father,
    so it won't work.  (well, maybe if it's chocolate chip cookie
    dough... but then _ I'd be fighting with Joyce again for it, and
    she isn't even going!)
    
    But I gave Bill the number and we'll see what happens.  It really
    would be nice to get out on my bike again.   I *do* have saddle
    sores from last week, but otherwise had no real repercussions.
    (Gee, maybe because I kept woosing out and resting?)
    
    							cj *->
    
    

    	Gee cj - I'm kinda partial to that Raspberry Fudge Chunk or
    whatever it was called ice cream I had there - the chocolate chip 
    cookie dough is all yours
    
    
    However - don't attempt to come to AKO2 and snarf up the cookies :-)
    
    joyce

    wouldn't think of it!   Glad we could resolve the ice cream
    issue so easily!
    						cj *->

    Ron,
    
    ARe you going to Terry's party Saturday night?  Seems if you're
    coming over in the afternoon to bike, you might as well plan on
    staying local straight through.   I'm sure Bill (or I, if I'm
    going) will offer up a place to clean up.
    
    I pretty much know this, if I'm biking then I'll also be going to
    the party, so you'll be welcome to hang out.  Something to think
    about if you don't want to travel back and forth from Foginberry
    a couple of times.
    
    Wish I could be more definitive....
    							cj *->
                      

    Maybe a whole bunch of sweaty bikers will be crashing on cj.
    
    ;-)

	Could be alot of bumping going on, eh?

    gee, brings back some memories  ;->
    
    					cj *->

	I am appalled.

    somehow, I think not...

    	Agreed cj - afterall Shawn is the 
    
     evil drooley little man :-)
    
    joyce

Are you bikers wearing black leather???
Because I do not know if a innocent guy
like myself can hang out with you.....

          Naw we wear black lycra.. Leather can be very uncool when you get
    all hot and sweaty :-)
    
    bob

           Seeing as I'll be busy sat if'n anyone decides to do a bike/hike
    or even an ice cream run :-)))) on Sunday give me a ring.. I log on during 
    the weekend so email works 7 days a week.
    
    bob

    re: .123 by WRKSYS::BROWER
    
    Bob, do you have any favorite paved or very easy trails in your area?
    Maybe we can do that Sunday afternoon.  I just saw long-range weather
    forecasts for Sunday and it looks like the rain may clear out by
    afternoon.
    
    Bill

          Bill I haven't lived in Leominster long enough to know of any
    good areas.. Mt Wachusett might be nice?? But then again that would 
    definitely not be an easy cycle.
    
    
    bob

    re: 63.114  (ok, ok, so i'm a little slow in responding :-)
    
    CJ, If I do both bike and party, it won't be a problem going 
    home in between. I'm only about 20min from Nashua.
    
    Thanks for the offer though!!!
    
    Ron
    
     

    re: .126 by PCBUOA::DESHARNAIS
    
    Whew!  For a second there, I thought I was going to have to clean
    house!  ;-)
    
    re: .125 by WRKSYS::BROWER
    
    I don't think I'm up for any DIFFICULT biking on Sunday.  There has to
    be someplace flat we can go.  How about out by the Quabbin?
    
    Bill

          Hmm Quabbin would be nice... As long as it's in the park there on
    rt 32. The road leading up to it has about a 900' rise ;-)
    
          There're are trails in Fitchburg state park too? I
    x-country ski there but don't know how to get to the bike trails 
    directly from the main road. Would be some interesting biking to
    get to them??
    
          There are also trails in the Wachusett Reservoir area as well. 
    
    bob

    So what is up for the bike ride on Saturday? Weather forecast is shower in
    the afternoon but you know how accurate those weathermen are. Since I live
    almost on Mine Falls Park, how about meeting at Mathew Thorton Parking lot 
    on Rt 111 (across for Ledgewood Hills condo). Other option in the Nashua 
    High School parking lot by the running track.
  
    Any other suggestions?

    Dave
 
    

    re: .129 by STRATA::HUI
    
    Hi Dave,
    
    M. Thornton parking lot would be good for me.  Haven't heard from 
    Ron yet whether he knows the spot.  Just got mail from Barb.  2pm
    there is the current plan barring horrendous weather forecasts.  If 
    the weather *is* bad for the afternoon, then you and Barb (and probably
    Ron) should go ahead and bike earlier.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Bill

    re: .128 by WRKSYS::BROWER
    
    I was thinking of some trails/roads off rt 32 alternate.  Or we could
    go 4-wheeling in Barre.  ;-)  1000 feet elevation doesn't sound so bad.
    When that bag of potato chips starts puffing up like a balloon, *then*
    I'd be inclined to worry about breathing.  ;-)
    
    Hope this is doable on Sunday.  My latest peek at Ch7's extended
    forecast shows raindrops on Sunday.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Bill

    Latest status:
    
    Barb, Dave, Ron and I will be biking tomorrow morning at 9, starting
    from Dave's house.  I haven't connected with Bob so Sunday's not set.
    
    Have a good weekend, everyone, and see some of you at Terry's.
    
    Bill

    	You little organizer you - great job!   See you at Terry's!
    
    joyce

 Hi all,

 I've been reading through these notes and it seems like you
 folks all have a good time biking together and also some bike
 with your kids. I have 2 daughters age 11 & 12 who like to
 bike.

 Soooo I'd like to propose a bike trip along the NH Seacoast
 from my home at Hampton Beach to Portsmouth along what could
 be considered the most Scenic Drive in NH. Coastal Rt. 1 A.
 The trip is approx 30 miles round trip but there are lots of
 stops along the way and it doesn't seem that long. The road
 is well paved mostly flat and has a generous bike lane most
 of the way. Mountain bikers will love Odiorne's trails and
 riding on the packed beach sand "optional"

 Some nice stops are....

 North Hampton State Beach
 Jenness Beach Rye
 Wallis Sands State Beach Rye
 Odiorne State Park Portsmouth
 Presscot Park Portsmouth
 Strawberry Banke Portsmouth.

 If anyone is interested please send me mail FOUNDR::SHEEHAN and
 what your preference is Sat. or Sun. I'll post the attendees here.
 I'm pretty flexible on the day and time but 11am would probably
 be a good starting time to enjoy the afternoon.

 Regards,

  Neil....

I LOVE riding that route!!  Have done it a bunch of times.  (In fact I lost my
bike computer in one of the Hampton beach's parking lots.  ;-( )  I'd definitely
go for it but I can't do it this weekend...


Barb

    I'd be glad to go for as long as I can manage.  That depends
    on if it's a weekend with or without my daughter.   She shortens
    the trip considerably, but increases it's entertainment value.
    
    						cj *->

    I'd be game for some coastal biking another weekend.

    Me tooooooooooo!!  The coast is a great place to ride!

           Mee three!! I'd love to do some coastal cycling!!
    
    bob

 Hi All,

 I guess since its Mom's Day a lot of you folks are
 spending the day with your Mom or single Mom's are
 spending the day with your children. I will still
 be riding though so if you have a last minute
 decision to spend the day on the coast you can give
 me a call at home. 926-8140.

 Also I'll probably be doing this trip on a regular
 basis throughout the spring/summer so feel free to
 send me mail and I'll keep you all posted on the 
 next ride.

 Later...

   Neil....

    Spent a very pleasant couple of hours hiking at Beaver Brook this
    afternoon with Terry and his two daughters.  Very nice kids.  The day
    was close to perfect.  The only minor detractors were some pesky
    insects.  Still, there were some places that were free from the pests. 
    We spent a good amount of time at an open area where a bridge crosses a
    large pond.  There was a cool breeze, the sun was warm and puffy clouds
    floated across the sky.  Good place to chat.  Might be a future picnic
    site.
    
    How was the biking, Neil?
    
    Cheers,
    
    Bill

    Weather forecasts for the weekend look good so far.  Anyone interested
    in biking the NH coast as per Neil's suggestion?  Neil, care to lead
    since you know the area?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Bill

 Hi Everyone,

 I'm planning another bike trip along the NH Seacoast for June 7
 with a rain date of June 8. The ride will start at my home at
 Hampton Beach and we'll ride to Portsmouth along what could
 be considered the most Scenic Drive in NH. Coastal Rt. 1 A.
 The trip is approx 30 miles round trip but there are lots of
 stops along the way and it doesn't seem that long. The road
 is well paved mostly flat and has a generous bike lane most
 of the way. Mountain bikers will love Odiorne's trails and
 riding on the packed beach sand "optional"

 Some nice stops are....

 North Hampton State Beach
 Jenness Beach Rye
 Wallis Sands State Beach Rye
 Odiorne State Park Portsmouth
 Presscot Park Portsmouth
 Strawberry Banke Portsmouth.

 If anyone is interested please send mail to FOUNDR::SHEEHAN and
 I'll send directions and post the attendees here prior to the ride.

              o
             /\_.   
  Neil...  _-\-_|  
          (*)/ (*) 

 Hi Bill,

 I'm planning on riding with my daughters on Sunday at Odiorne State Park
 in Portsmouth. It'll be a short ride only a few miles but good for kids.
 We'll probably have a little picnic at the Park as well.

 Contact me if your interested as well as anyone else who has young children
 and wants to spend a day at Odiorne riding the trails.

 Neil....

    re: FOUNDR::SHEEHAN
    
    Hi Neil,
    
    Odiorne looks like a very scenic area as you said.  I think I'd like to
    break out of the park and possibly follow your Rt 1A course southward
    toward your Hampton Beach.  Lots of places along the shore to explore.
    It all depends on if anyone else will be coming along.  ;-)  It's a
    long haul to Portsmouth for some of us.
    
    Bill

    
    Neil,
    
    Sunday sounds like a good day for a bike ride weather permitting.
    
    Can you tell us the starting time and where we can park for the 
    trip.
    Shorter trip sounds better for me.
    
    I'll have to see if I have my son that day also.
    
                 Bill P.

         I'll see if my kids want to bring their bikes this weekend.. I'd
    be up for a 2nd trek to Great Brook State Park on Sunday... Anyone up
    for it??
    
    bob still a labrat so my time here is limited
    

 Ok Here's the Scoop!

 If you definately would like to ride at Odiorne this
 Sunday with us then give me a call either Sat. evening
 or Sunday morning early before 9am "not too early though".
 I'll then give you all the info. Starting time, Weather Report
 Directions... I figure we could meet at my home in Hampton
 and then head up to Odiorne. Anyone who would like to do a
 longer ride can either pick a spot along Rt. 1A before Portsmouth
 or just Park at Odoirne and ride north or south from there.
 I'm thinking noon would be a good start time but I'm flexible.

 Neil....  Home Phone# (603)926-8140

    re: .148 by FOUNDR::SHEEHAN
    
    Neil,
    
    I think I'll join you at Odiorne on Sunday.  Will give you a call
    Saturday evening.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Bill

    Hi Neil,
    
    Sounds like fun!  I'd like to join you folks on Sunday unless the 
    weather is bad.  I'm trying to locate a bike.  What time are we going to 
    leave your house?
    
    Karyn 

    Just got back from Odiorne Point.  What a gorgeous area!  You have to
    see it to believe it.  Lucky Neil lives practically there!
    
    It was just Neil, his daughters and me.  Karyn ran into some problems
    locating a bike so she couldn't make it.  Very unfortunate...  Sign up
    now for Neil's trip in 2 weeks!
    
    Bill

    	Seems like everyone had a good week-end!
    
    joyce

           Our crew  went to Carlisle.. Wonderful weather!! The biking
    and hiking trails were excellent. At times I felt like one of those head 
    bobbing toys though.. Some very bumpy stretches in the backwoods. As usual
    the ice cream was the pinnacle of confectionary delight YUMM!!
    
       bob

 Re.151

 Glad you liked Odiorne Bill and thanks for the nice update
 on the ride.

 It was a georgeous day to be outdoors whether it be biking
 or not. Odoirne was full of activity yesterday with walkers,
 roller bladers, bikers and picnicerd. There were lots of folks
 from the Seacoast Cleanup effort having an outdoor BBQ 
 with live music as well. My daughters especially enjoyed spending
 some time looking in the tide pools for starfish and in the Science
 and Nature Center at Odiorne and seeing and touching the Crustaceans
 and molusks in the big Saltwater Tank. We also got a real close up
 view of a snail eating the algae off the aquarium glass. One of the
 Centers Staff had a magnifying video camera connected to a monitor
 and we could actually see the snail eating. 

 After the ride a stop at Lago's Lone Oaks Ice Cream replaced the
 few calories we burn't off during the ride. Lago's is by far the
 greatest Ice Cream on the Seacoast. 

 Hope we have as nice a day on the June 7th Ride as well as more
 riders. The June 7th ride I gaurantee will be worth every pedal... 

 Cheers!

   Neil.....

    
    June 7th is a Saturday and Saturday's are generally bad for me
    as I have a parttime job.  If you decide to cancel because of 
    rain though, I'd really love to go on the 8th.  
    
    The only bike I have access to is a mountain bike.  Will that 
    be okay for a 30 mile trip?  I haven't had much experience with 
    bikes since I was a kid.  
    
    Karyn
    
    

    I, too, could make the 8th.  I don't know how long a trip I
    could do with Angeline on the back, but the descriptions so
    far are tantalizing....
    
    					cj *->

    Neil and I talked a bit about the planned ride.  Shorter rides can be
    easily accomodated.  The important thing is to BE THERE!  It's great!
    I'm not particular about which day, 7th or 8th.  For me, weather
    dictates.  I'm still in the wait and see stage.  ;-)
    
    Bill

 

 I don't have a preference to which day so If
 more can make it on Sunday the 8th then majority
 rules.

 I'll keep you posted although I'd prefer if you
 send me Email and tell me you want to go, which day
 you'd prefer and if you'll be bringing you child.

 This way I can easily create a list and send/post
 the attendees prior to the ride.

 C-Ya!

              o
             /\_.   
  Neil...  _-\-_|  
          (*)/ (*) 

          The 8th would seem to work for me as well.. I don't have my kids
    that weekend though...
    
    bob

    The 8th is good for me too.  
    
    Stef

    Anyone want to hike Mt. Washington with me this Friday?
    
    I've got the day off and am finding it hard to recruit anyone to come
    hiking with me.  I'm told that there is still skiing on the mountain
    and that's scaring my friends off.  I figure if I can make to the hut,
    cross over to the other trail and head down I'd call it an
    accomplishment (if there's too much snow to hit the summit).
    
    Anyone have Friday off and is up to the challenge of making it up the
    mountain in 2.5 hours? (max time). Send me mail!
    
    lbassett
    
    

    re: .161 by DELNI::LBASSETT
    
    That's pretty serious hiking!  I've always wanted to do Mt. Washington
    but the opportunity never came up.  Looks like I missed another one. 
    ;-)  Some of the other "Presidentials" are more like stair stepping
    exercises.  What's your planned route like?
    
    Another time perhaps.
    
    Bill

    hey Bill,
    
    Welp, my planned route is make it as close to the top as possible
    (weather permitting) and get back down.  I'm hiking for exericse only
    this time....no time to dilly dally or bird watch....chop! chop!  :)
    
    Anyone out there with a competitive streak in 'em?  No?

     
    Hi,
    
     I've hiked it twice, and would consider friday except I have to work,
    and have plans directly after...otherwise maybe..
    
    Chris

    re: .163 by DELNI::LBASSETT
    
    > Anyone out there with a competitive streak in 'em?  No?
    
    I compete only when I know I'll win.  ;-)
    
    *After* you've made your Mt. Washington hike, I'll challenge you to a
    run up and down Monadnock.  ;-)  Unfair you say?  True, but it improves
    my chances of winning.  ;-)
    
    Seriously though, Friday's out for me.  Wish I'd known...
    
    Bill

        Also keep a close eye on the weather.. There're hikers warnings up
    for tomorrow along the Presidential range due to snow squalls.. brrrr
    
    bob

    re: .166 by WRKSYS::BROWER
    
    > snow squalls.. brrrr
    
    Ooh, all the more tempting!  Thanks, Bob.
    
    Bill

    Oh Yeah, Bill....  How fast can you make it to the top of Mt.
    Monadnock using White Dot trail?

    re: .168 by DELNI::LBASSETT
    
    > Oh Yeah, Bill....  How fast can you make it to the top of Mt.
    > Monadnock using White Dot trail?
    
    It's been a few years since I "ran" up and down.  I think it was on the
    order of an hour plus.  (a hour plus a couple?)  ;-)  No, probably not
    more than 90 minutes round trip.  Ok, so maybe that's not so fast.
    
    > ...don't lie! :)
    
    Moi!  Hmmmph.
    
    So, are you accepting the challenge?  Since you're doing Mt. Washington
    Friday, how about Saturday?  I need to re-time myself.
    
    Bill  :-)

    I'm still wondering if lbassett is going to go hiking Mt.
    Washington tomorrow even if alone?...  Just friendly concern.  I
    don't know what the weather will be like up there tomorrow, but
    GMA local should be pretty nice so hopefully it'll be nice up THE
    MOUNTAIN, too.
    
    Bill

          I'd be game for a hike up either Mt Washington on Monadnock
    sometime in the future.. 
    
    bob

    I've decided not to tackle Washington at this time since the reports
    are saying that there is a ton of snow just past the tree line.  I'm
    not suicidal so I'll put this trek off for a few weeks.  You'll be
    hearing from again though.......!
    
    Re: Monadnock.  90 minutes roundtrip.  Wow! You've got me beat!  My PR
    for getting to the top is 50 minutes.  Do you still want to hang out
    with me?  I'm serious!  Let me know today, because I'm not logging in
    tomorrow (I'm not as geeky as you!)

    re: .172 by DELNI::LBASSETT
    re: Monadnock.
    
    Time to ante up, eh.  ;-)  Excellent!
    
    Morning or early afternoon?  I think morning's better.  Anyone else
    interested? ... otherwise a few quick email exchanges might be faster
    to get things set up.
    
    > getting to the top is 50 minutes.
    
    That's a great time!  As I recall, coming down only took about 30
    minutes.  So it looks like you'll lose me on the uphill and I'll fly
    downhill to catch up.  ;-)
    
    > Let me know today, because I'm not logging in tomorrow (I'm not as
    > geeky as you!)
    
    Hey, logging in isn't being geeky.  It's just a convenient way to
    communicate!
    
    Bill

    Ok, just for the record, lbassett and I went up Monadnock today.
    Short story, I was left in the dust.
    
    We went up White Dot just like the 300 or so people on the mountain at
    the same time.  Coming down, we ventured into newer territory.  Smith
    Summit Trail --> Fairy Spring Trail --> Thoreau Trail (which goes back
    uphill!!) --> Lost Farm Trail.  And the reason we went back uphill at
    all costs was because lbassett didn't want to do either trail that had
    "Cliff" in the name.  Apparently done before and highly disliked.  The
    descent took about 2 1/2 hours.
    
    My cardiovascular system gave out 20 minutes into White Dot.  I
    couldn't walk at double pace and trying to do so only killed me that
    much sooner.  From then on, I plodded, rested, plodded, etc.  I was
    about 15-20 minutes behind lbassett overall.  Coming down, I retained a
    bit of what little dignity was left.
    
    Good workout.  Lost 2-3 lbs.  Gained it all back at dinner at the
    Border.  ;-)
    
    Cheers,
    
    Bill

        Bill we can certainly put you on a training program for future
    power hikes :-)
    
    
    bob

    re: .175 by WRKSYS::BROWER
    
    I can sure use all the help I can get!
    
    Bill

 Hi folks,

 If you are interested in attending this upcoming Seacoast Bike
 ride be sure to E-Mail me letting me know so I can add you to
 the distribution list and keep you updated on important info.

 We will meet at my home at Hampton Beach and we'll ride
 to Portsmouth along what could be considered the most Scenic
 Drive in NH. Coastal Rt. 1 A. The trip is approx 30 miles round
 trip but there are lots of stops along the way and it doesn't
 seem that long. The road is well paved mostly flat and has a
 generous bike lane most of the way. Mountain bikers will love
 Odiorne's trails and riding on the packed beach sand.

 Depending on the day and riders ablilities we may shorten the 
 trip to 15 or 20 miles and spend more time in and around in-town
 Portsmouth. Or at least give riders an option to meet us at another
 place along the route.
 
 Some nice stops are....

 North Hampton State Beach
 Jenness Beach Rye
 Wallis Sands State Beach Rye
 Odiorne State Park Portsmouth
 Presscot Park Portsmouth
 Strawberry Banke Portsmouth.

 If anyone you are interested please send mail to FOUNDR::SHEEHAN and
 I'll send directions and keep you posted prior to the ride.

              o
             /\_.   
  Neil...  _-\-_|  
          (*)/ (*) 


Current folks interested in attending who've E-mailed me
and are on the distribution list.

 Barb Asketh
 Kathleen Kenyon
 Bill Perry
 Ron Desharnais
 June Maki
 Neil Sheehan

 

 Hi Everyone,

 Looks like Sunday is going to be a Great day to ride "partly cloudy High 65"
 If you want to go and haven't E-Mailed me yet do it today and I'll get the
 directions and info out to you.

              o
             /\_.   
  Neil...  _-\-_|  
          (*)/ (*) 



 List of folks planning to ride:

 Neil Sheehan
 Barb Asketh
 Kathleen Kenyon
 Bill Perry
 Ron Desharnais
 June Maki
 Terri Cadorette
 Steph Barrows
 Bill Lin
 Jeff Sullivan
 Cindy Jacques "aka CJ" with Daughter