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65.1 | New Modem Chapter For `Raven' Documentation | XDELTA::HOFFMAN | Steve, OpenVMS Engineering | Thu Mar 20 1997 17:22 | 13 |
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I will assume OpenVMS given the device names... (This is the generic
Alpha conference.)
I'll e-mail you the new "connecting a modem" chapter going into the
Raven documentation set...
Yes, there are definitely security considerations when a modem is
connected to the console: you likely have no security.
I'd look at setting up a modem pool -- as documented in the chapter I
am mailing -- via a DECserver.
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65.2 | DSNlink *owns* the port | GIDDAY::GILLINGS | a crucible of informative mistakes | Thu Mar 20 1997 20:25 | 27 |
| In general there are security issues connecting a modem to the system
console (OPA0), but this is OPA1, so I don't the OPA0 concerns are
relevant.
Furthermore, you intend to use the port for DSNlink communications. In
that case the DSN$SERVER process owns the port permanently. Since it runs
a proprietory protocol, with (rather weak) crypro authentication, it would
be unlikely that a casual intruder would be able to establish a connection.
Even if someone did crack the protocol and the site's authorization key,
they'd be rather limited in what they can do from the outside. It's pretty
much restricted to copying files to a single directory (DSN$COPY_DIRECTORY)
or sending MAIL to a VAXmail address.
There is a quasi-cterm protocol for logging onto the system, but that's
still protected by normal username/password, and it must be explicitly
enabled for a specific time window by the customer using the DSN AUTHORIZE
command.
Note that DSNlink can also use a modem on a DECserver, or X25 or (if
you're internal) DECnet. I believe there will also be internet access
some time soon.
Now, while I wouldn't recommend what you're doing for a high security
site, I'd say it's probably somewhat more secure than an ordinary modem
attached to a serial port.
John Gillings, Sydney CSC
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65.3 | | AUSS::GARSON | DECcharity Program Office | Thu Mar 20 1997 20:38 | 6 |
| re .2
I suppose there might be windows of time during which DSNlink wouldn't
have the port allocated (e.g. before running, if it falls over) but
that shouldn't expose the system if OPA1 has no operator console
functionality.
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65.4 | Operator ports & modems are not a good idea | STAR::KENNEY | | Fri Mar 21 1997 08:35 | 8 |
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Forgetting security, don't do it. I cannot remember if the 2100 is
one of the systems we sort of do modems correctly. Will try to
remember to ask the person who did the work for the 2100. In general
the OPAx ports on the Alpha systems don't function all well.
Forrest
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65.5 | My advice, keep modem on TTA0 port | STAR::jacobi.zko.dec.com::jacobi | Paul A. Jacobi - OpenVMS Systems Group | Fri Mar 21 1997 15:48 | 11 |
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I suggest reading through MVBLAB::SABLE.NOTE for information on modems and
the 2100. In genernal, I think you'll have less problems if you keep the
modem on the TTA0 port. Baud rate selection, errors at >9600 baud, and
modem controls have always been problematic on OPAx ports. Be sure to use
a full cable, NOT 6-wire DECconnect cable for modems.
-Paul
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65.6 | Huh? | XDELTA::HOFFMAN | Steve, OpenVMS Engineering | Fri Mar 21 1997 17:18 | 5 |
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:Be sure to use a full cable, NOT 6-wire DECconnect cable for modems.
MMJ 6-wire should work fine for limited modem control.
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65.7 | Modems and DEC423 should not be used | STAR::KENNEY | | Fri Mar 21 1997 22:43 | 14 |
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MMJ 6 wire will not cut it for modems with VMS. Use it at your own
peril, the system may not let you log in. Then again based on the
connector it may, but not see the modem drop. Leaving the line open
for anyone to pick up the process of the last person using the line if
they did not log out.
I have the scars to prove just how stupid an idea it was to put
MMJ only connectors on many of the VAXstations. But the then boss Ken
won out and we shipped them that way. Ask Kenny House how many times
he dealt with pissed off customers over this piece of stupidity.
Forrest
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65.8 | fifteen minutes of fame :-) | WRKSYS::HOUSE | Kenny House, Workstations Engineering | Sat Mar 22 1997 12:55 | 5 |
| re .7
Didn't you mean "former" customers?
-- Kenny House
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