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| 572.1 | Pointers To Related Information Resources... | XDELTA::HOFFMAN | Steve, OpenVMS Engineering | Thu May 08 1997 10:31 | 32 |
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Save for very specific products and software packages, DIGITAL does
not generally support nor test nor evaluate third-party hardware or
software products. (In other words, OpenVMS does not support this
printer.)
In this case, the product you will likely require is DCPS, which
does offer -- with the DCPS-OPEN license -- support for specified
third-party Postscript printers. DCPS is the package used to print
to Postscript printers.
The DCPS notes conference is at HUMANE::POSTSCRIPT_PRINTING -- please
check the DCPS Software Product Description (SPD) to determine if the
LaserWriter 16/600 is supported, and if the parallel port is supported.
DCPS supports access to printers via LAT serial and traditional serial
connections, among other connections and protocols. And DCPS does not
support LPR/LPD access, as it requires bi-directional communications
with the printer.
SPDs are available at http://webir.das.dec.com/, among other sites.
Other options include network-based printer access via PATHWORKS, and
-- for access to non-Postscript ANSI printers -- LAT (via DECserver,
network interface card, or LATprint hardware), and DIGITAL TCP/IP
Services (UCX) LPR/LPD access (via IP network interface card).
Notes conferences of interest will be:
HUMANE::MACINTOSH
HUMANE::POSTSCRIPT_PRINTING
JAMIN::VMS-FOR-MAC
LASSIE::UCX
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| 572.2 | PATHWORKS for OpenVMS (Macintosh) perhaps? | UNIFIX::HARRIS | Juggling has its ups and downs | Thu May 08 1997 11:57 | 11 |
| The PATHWORKS for OpenVMS (Macintosh) server product will print to
AppleTalk connected LaserWriters from OpenVMS, as well as act as a
print spooler for Macintosh clients allowing them to print to other
Digital Laser Printers. (JAMIN::VMS-FOR-MAC)
Also follow the advice of .1, the DCPS product can also use the
AppleTalk protocol stack to print to AppleTalk connected Laser printers
(if you have the right license). So check out the notes conferences .1
has suggested.
Bob Harris
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| 572.3 | Look For Smaller Hammers First... | XDELTA::HOFFMAN | Steve, OpenVMS Engineering | Thu May 08 1997 12:08 | 5 |
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(I'd hesitate to suggest PATHWORKS for OpenVMS (Macintosh) as a first
solution here, as it's like swatting flies with anvils -- it will work,
but it's a lot of effort for the task.)
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| 572.4 | Anvils are ok if you don't have to lift the whole thing | EVMS::KILGALLEN | ZK0 4x13, DTN 381-2879 | Thu May 08 1997 13:12 | 10 |
| > <<< Note 572.3 by XDELTA::HOFFMAN "Steve, OpenVMS Engineering" >>>
> (I'd hesitate to suggest PATHWORKS for OpenVMS (Macintosh) as a first
> solution here, as it's like swatting flies with anvils -- it will work,
> but it's a lot of effort for the task.)
My experience has been that although PATHWORKS for OpenVMS (Macintosh)
has a lot of stuff in it, ignoring the parts you don't care about works
quite well. Formerly I just cared about file services, but then I got
to the point of using print services and it is all quite easy to manage.
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| 572.5 | I disagree with .3 | UNIFIX::HARRIS | Juggling has its ups and downs | Thu May 08 1997 17:45 | 22 |
| Please do not confuse the Mac product with the Windows product. The
Mac team worked very hard to make the product easy to manage, in keeping
with the Mac OS ease of use.
While it is not perfect, the team has had few customer problem reports
about installation and setup (and when we got any we tried to address
them in a patch or the next release).
And as .4 mentions, you do not need to install all the parts. The
installation procedure allows you to select the parts you want and will
include the necessary supporting parts.
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Having said all that, if all that is desired is to be able to print
from OpenVMS to an Apple printer, then the DCPS product may be a better
choice. However, if they also want the OpenVMS system to be a print
spooler for the Mac clients, then the PATHWORKS for OpenVMS (Macintosh)
server will do that job as well as allow OpenVMS users to use Apple
printers on the network.
Bob Harris
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| 572.6 | Use IP instead of AppleTalk? | AUSS::GARSON | DECcharity Program Office | Thu May 08 1997 20:22 | 9 |
| re .*
The Laserwriter 16/600 PS appears to support TCP/IP (we have one here)
so it is conceivable that an alternative would be to use UCX to provide
printing to it and avoid the Apple protocols altogether. Unfortunately
we are not doing this so I can't say whether it works.
We have another printer here (a Digital one) that appears to support
TCP/IP, AppleTalk *and* LAT which gives you easy printing from anywhere.
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| 572.7 | DCPS Doesn't (Yet) Support LPR/LPD | XDELTA::HOFFMAN | Steve, OpenVMS Engineering | Fri May 09 1997 10:25 | 5 |
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re: 572.6
Unfortunately, Postscript means DCPS, and DCPS and LPR/LPD IP don't mix.
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| 572.8 | DCPS V1.4 coming soon | FUNYET::ANDERSON | OpenVMS pays the bills | Fri May 09 1997 12:20 | 12 |
| re .7,
> DCPS Doesn't (Yet) Support LPR/LPD
And it never will, but that doesn't mean much really. LPR/LPD is but one way of
printing to a TCP/IP-enabled printer.
What DCPS V1.4 will do is print to printers and network devices attached to
printers that support bidirectional TCP/IP raw sockets. This includes printers
like the LN17ps but not the DEClaser 3500.
Paul
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| 572.9 | )-: | AUSS::GARSON | DECcharity Program Office | Sun May 11 1997 19:56 | 5 |
| re .8
>And it never will, but that doesn't mean much really.
It does if you have a DEClaser 3500.
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| 572.10 | Ooops | FUNYET::ANDERSON | OpenVMS pays the bills | Mon May 12 1997 11:49 | 15 |
| You are right, of course. And I shouldn't have said that DCPS will *never*
support LPR/LPD; it's just that DCPS V1.4 won't and we have no plans to support
it.
On the other hand, I have four queues to my DEClaser 3500 from my OpenVMS
workstaion:
LAT (DCPS)
AppleTalk (DCPS)
LPD (UCX)
Telnet (UCX)
with a DCPS TCP/IP connection being obvious in its absence.
Paul
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