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Title:VAX and Alpha VMS
Notice:This is a new VMSnotes, please read note 2.1
Moderator:VAXAXP::BERNARDO
Created:Wed Jan 22 1997
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:703
Total number of notes:3722

562.0. "Dual ported SCSI on VMS?" by NNTPD::"[email protected]" (Thomas ) Mon May 05 1997 09:16

Hi,

Please can you tell me if VMS supports Dual-Ported SCSI disks?

Thanks in advance for you help.

Thomas 
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562.1Check The SPDXDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringMon May 05 1997 10:2334
    It would be best if you provide us with some additional information
    around the specific device(s) or configuration(s) your customer is
    interested in.

    I am not aware of a dual-ported SCSI disk -- would this be a disk
    that is connected to two SCSI busses?  Or are you refering to a
    disk on a SCSI bus, a SCSI bus connected to more than one host?

    If the latter...

    Multi-host SCSI is supported by OpenVMS Alpha V6.2 and later, with
    V6.2-1H3 and V7.1 having the most supported SCSI controllers and the
    most supported configurations.  V7.1 has the best support of all of
    the available multi-host SCSI configurations; as V7.1 first supports
    port allocation classes, which make configuring the SCSI controllers
    far easier than on any pre-V7.1 release.

    One could conceivably connect a storage controller across two (or more
    SCSI busses) for reliability.  (Though I don't know of any hardware
    available that does this -- it would be the logical equivalent of two
    HSZ40 controllers connected together via the three shared SCSI busses.
    And I do _not_ know that this configuration is permissible/supported.)

	--

    The list of devices supported by OpenVMS is included in the Software
    Product Description, the SPD, available in the kit distribution and/or
    documentation areas referenced by note 8.* and 9.*.

    When asking if a configuration is supported, the SPD is the first spot
    to look.  And for various configuration options and part numbers, check
    the DIGITAL Systems and Options Catalog (SOC).

562.2EEMELI::MOSEROrienteers do it in the bush...Mon May 05 1997 11:365
    if you are after multirail failover, then I must tell you that this
    is currently not yet available, i.e. for example a dual-redundant
    HSZ50 connected to 2 different SCSI buses.
    
    /cmos
562.3Anny plan for dual ported.NNTPD::"[email protected]"ThomasTue May 06 1997 07:2416
Hi,

Thank you both for you input. I know about multi-host but this is not what the
partner is looking at. What is described in Reply 2 is what the Digital
partner wants. Therefore do you know if there is a plan for support of 2 SCSI
buses connected to one Disk on VMS?
When will this be? What versions of VMS?

He claims he heard about that in a THOT in Nashua!

Thanks for you help.

Regards,

Thomas 
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562.4Contact PM DirectlyXDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringTue May 06 1997 10:3820
:He claims he heard about that in a THOT in Nashua!

   OpenVMS engineering is currently looking at the technical aspects of
   allowing a back-to-back HSZnn configuration -- this would have the
   SCSI busses "behind" the HSZnn controllers "dual-host" connected, with
   the two HSZ controllers connected to seperate SCSI busses  (There are
   interesting implications around the SCSI disk addressing and failover
   in this configuration, but these are probably not insurmountable.)

   Per the VMScluster Product Manager, dual-rail storage was not something
   that was supported until very recently on various other (CI and DSSI)
   interconnects, and this is not something the PM has heard much call for.

   Note that the customer can resolve the underlying "data availability"
   request immediately, using host-based shadowing and multiple volumes.

   If you'd like to discuss this further, you will likely want to contact
   the Product Manager directly.  (Nick Carr, STAR::NCARR)

562.5yep, but waitSTAR::EVERHARTTue May 06 1997 10:466
    A plan exists. Some code even exists for part of the problem and even
    works. But this stuff is futures. Wait till at least all of the batter
    is mixed and the cake's in the oven before asking when and where it
    will be eaten...