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Title:VAX and Alpha VMS
Notice:This is a new VMSnotes, please read note 2.1
Moderator:VAXAXP::BERNARDO
Created:Wed Jan 22 1997
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:703
Total number of notes:3722

415.0. "Top Gun Crash Dump Analysis person ?" by ODIXIE::RREEVES () Thu Apr 03 1997 15:45

    Who would any of you turn to for the best crash dump analysis. I have a 
    customer whose Alpha keeps crashing and all we can tell him is that it
    looks like a 3rd party driver. Is this usually the best we can come up 
    with in a good crash dump analysis or is there someone out there who
    is better at extracting  this type of information than most. 
    
    Any suggestions ?
    
    Regards,
    
    Ray 
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415.1Start With CANASTA...XDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringThu Apr 03 1997 16:0326
    We obviously have a few of these folks here in OpenVMS
    engineering.

    Sometimes, these crashes are easy to identify the cause.
    And sometimes, they can take days or weeks of digging...

    One should be clear around the cost of this -- we (DIGITAL)
    can certainly extract this information and start to debug
    the cause of the crash, but if this does end up a third-party
    driver bug, someone (DIGITAL -- or if we have a customer PO,
    the customer) ends up eating the cost of the debugging.

    More often than not, these need to be worked out with the
    appropriate folks involved -- this involves getting any of
    the relevent third-party maintenance organizations involved
    in a discussion early on.  (And I do *not* intend to mean
    "pointing the finger" here.)

    The cheapest alternative in these situations is often to shut
    down the third-party driver, and see if the crashes continue.
    If not, I'd definitely get the third-party involved...

    You can also run the crash against CANASTA, to see if this
    is a recognized crash.  See note 233.* here for how.

415.2EVMS::MORONEYUFO rides - five bucks.Thu Apr 03 1997 16:044
CANASTA will tell you if it's a known problem (known to CANASTA anyway)
and it'll be a good entry for its database if it is a new problem.

See note 233.
415.3New Dump as cmpared to an old dumpODIXIE::RREEVESFri Apr 04 1997 09:567
    Thanks I already tried CANASTA via a CSC specialist and the dump was
    not something which has been seen before.
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Ray