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Title:VAX and Alpha VMS
Notice:This is a new VMSnotes, please read note 2.1
Moderator:VAXAXP::BERNARDO
Created:Wed Jan 22 1997
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:703
Total number of notes:3722

373.0. "Any alternative for VXT2000/Multia for Chinese?" by HGOM11::HELENZHOU () Mon Mar 24 1997 05:52

    Hello,
    
    Due to the retirment of VXT2000 and Multia, my customers intend to use
    a Digital UNIX V4.0 Alpha Workstation as the DECwindow Disply device
    with Simple Chinese Character support, the X server is a Alpha Server 
    with OpenVMS V7.1 system with DECWindow/Motif Hanzi(Simply Chinese
    Character support software). Could you provide help with questions:
    
    1) Can the Chinese character be displied on the DECwindow of Digital
       UNIX Workstation by TELNET or rlogin ?
    
    2) If yes, what should be the proper configuration on UNIX Workstation?
       for example,32MB memory & 1GB disk?
    
    3) if there any better way to disply OPENVMS V7.1 FOR AXP's DECwindow/
       Motif on a PC/Win95 with Chinese Character support?===> I mean is
       there any alternative for VXT2000, Multia, with Chinese character
       support?
    
    The customers hold the orders and seek for solution. I'm looking
    forward to your help! Thanks ahead!
    
    Best Reg.
    Helen
    
    
    
    
    
    
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373.1Is This Multia-Specific, Or A Generic NT Feature?XDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringMon Mar 24 1997 13:363
   A Multia box is an NT box.  Can you use another NT box?

373.2exHGOM11::HELENZHOUMon Mar 24 1997 20:008
    Steve,
    
    It's sure, any NT box as long as it can disply OPEN VMS DECwindow/Motif
    application with Chinese Character support. I suppose you have another
    solution, would you please let me know? 
    
    Thanks & Reg.
    Helen
373.3Pointers...XDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringMon Mar 24 1997 21:0338
   You already asked about this over in the HUMANE::MULTIA conference,
   over in note 607.*, back on 22-MAY-1996, and again in note 760.*, on
   26-FEB-1997.  And the answers you received to 607.* -- if you were
   ever able to get that suggested configuration to work -- likely still
   apply here.
    
:    It's sure, any NT box as long as it can disply OPEN VMS DECwindow/Motif
:    application with Chinese Character support. I suppose you have another
:    solution, would you please let me know? 

   This is either an NT question, or a DECwindows Motif question, an Asian
   OpenVMS question, or an eXcursion question -- one thing this is not is
   a "vanilla" OpenVMS question....  (Only with one or more of these other
   products can an OpenVMS system display chinese characters.)

   There are a couple of documents available on this, including:

	http://webir.das.dec.com/objects/DTJB06/DTJB06SC.TXT 
	http://www-mcs.iso.dec.com/rollout/WINNT_28624-16-JAN-1997.TXT
	http://www.ilo.dec.com/swip/swip_14_0152.html
	NOTED::EXCURSION (443.*, 2082.*, 2533.*)

   If you have a chinese version of NT (these exist) and eXcursion
   (not sure about Chinese support under eXcursion -- what package
   was the customer using to display the DECwindows output on the
   Multia?  eXcursion?) and if you have the appropriate version of
   DECwindows Motif, you should be able to do this on most any Windows
   NT (Intel or Alpha) system....  Obviously, selling a DIGITAL box
   would be nice...

   Note: I was unable to locate a version of eXcursion that advertised
   Chinese support.

   Note: unless the software used originally was specific to the Multia
   NT box, this configuration should be possible with a non-Multia
   NT box.

373.3Pointer...XDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringTue Mar 25 1997 09:0737
   This was already asked over in the HUMANE::MULTIA conference, over in
   note 607.*, back on 22-MAY-1996, and again in note 760.*, on 26-FEB-1997.
   The suggestions to 607.* -- if the suggested configuration was ever
   created and tested -- likely still apply here.
    
:    It's sure, any NT box as long as it can disply OPEN VMS DECwindow/Motif
:    application with Chinese Character support. I suppose you have another
:    solution, would you please let me know? 

   This is either an NT question, or a DECwindows Motif question, an Asian
   OpenVMS question, or an eXcursion question -- one thing this is not is
   a "vanilla" OpenVMS question....  (Only with one or more of these other
   products can an OpenVMS system display chinese characters.)

   There are a couple of documents available on this, including:

	http://webir.das.dec.com/objects/DTJB06/DTJB06SC.TXT 
	http://www-mcs.iso.dec.com/rollout/WINNT_28624-16-JAN-1997.TXT
	http://www.ilo.dec.com/swip/swip_14_0152.html
	NOTED::EXCURSION (443.*, 2082.*, 2533.*)

   If you have a chinese version of NT (these exist) and eXcursion
   (not sure about Chinese support under eXcursion -- what package
   was the customer using to display the DECwindows output on the
   Multia?  eXcursion?) and if you have the appropriate version of
   DECwindows Motif, you should be able to do this on most any Windows
   NT (Intel or Alpha) system....  Obviously, selling a DIGITAL box
   would be nice...

   Note: I was unable to locate a version of eXcursion that advertised
   Chinese support.

   Note: unless the software used originally was specific to the Multia
   NT box, this configuration should be possible with a non-Multia
   NT box.

373.4UNIX as X serverHGOM11::HELENZHOUThu Mar 27 1997 01:1117
    Hi, Steve
    
    Yes, due to VXT 2000 retirement, we encounter a big trouble with those
    customers who need X server disply with locale character support. We
    ever choose the Multia as the alternative, then it was retired too.
    Now, the customers want PC X server with local language support, I got
    to know that Digital UNIX's font set can be down load to PC for achieve
    the purpose. But, now the customer asked for VMS Motif local language 
    application disply on X server. Excusion doen not support Chinese
    character I 'm told.  WNT may disply local language, but keyboard
    mapping may be an issue. So I finally choose a Digital UNIX station as
    OPEN VMS Motif X server with chinese support. It should be work, right?
    
    Thanks for all of your help!
    
    Re.
    Helen
373.5Wrong ConferenceXDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringThu Mar 27 1997 09:5915
   You are asking the wrong folks.  OpenVMS itself can not do this. 
   Other products *may* be able to do this, but you're asking the
   OpenVMS folks questions about other products and configurations.

   And there appears to be another question I'm having trouble
   expressing: Multia is an NT box.   *If* what you were depending
   on in the Multia was "stock NT" features or was a package that
   was available for "stock NT", you *should* be able to use most
   any NT platform for your purpose.

   But this is the OpenVMS conference, and the folks lurking here
   are familiar primarily with OpenVMS, not with X Servers and
   localization on NT.