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Title:VAX and Alpha VMS
Notice:This is a new VMSnotes, please read note 2.1
Moderator:VAXAXP::BERNARDO
Created:Wed Jan 22 1997
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:703
Total number of notes:3722

354.0. "SYSUAF.DAT moved from VAX to ALPHA, is it supported?" by 23111::WILLIAMCHAN () Thu Mar 20 1997 04:47

Hello,

	Customer has migrated the sysuaf.dat from VAX/VMS V5.5-2 machine
	to AXP/VMS V6.2 system. But when she using e.g.

	UAF> modify * /fillm=....

	she found that UAF just help her to change the first record but
	not all. She would like to know does the Alpha VMS not supported
	the wild card feature or due to the mistake when she copied the
	SYSUAF from VAX to Alpha? Because she said she can do it during
	she is still using VAX/VMS V5.5-2.

	One more question: During she shows the proxy record in the
	AXP/VMS system (the SYSUAF.dat is copied from VAX and the PROXY.dat
	is locally created in Alpha machine); she found the record shown
	up is not in sequence such as node name; then I simulate the problem
	in my Alpha machine and its normal:

	Please see my machine:

UAF> show /proxy *

 Default proxies are flagged with (D)

0::RSM$CMANAGER
     RSM$CMANAGER (D)

ABC::WILLIAMCHAN
     WILLIAMCHAN (D)

HGCS05::HTTP_SERVER
     HTTP_SERVER (D)

HGCS05::RSM$CMANAGER
     RSM$CMANAGER (D)

HGCS05::SYSTEM
     SYSTEM (D)                         HTTP_SERVER

HGOSPS::WILLIAMCHAN
     WILLIAMCHAN (D)

HTSC04::WILLIAMCHAN
     WILLIAMCHAN (D)

ZZZ::WILLIAMCHAN
     WILLIAMCHAN (D)
UAF> ex
%UAF-I-NOMODS, no modifications made to system authorization file
%UAF-I-NAFDONEMSG, network proxy database modified
%UAF-I-RDBNOMODS, no modifications made to rights database
HGCS05::Williamchan > lo
 

	Is it also due to the incorrected method of SYSUAF copying?

Best regards,
William
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354.1Should Work; Check For File Contexts, CorruptionsXDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringThu Mar 20 1997 09:3030
    Wildcard modifications are supported by the OpenVMS Alpha AUTHORIZE
    utility.  

    I can't explain why she is seeing these errors.

    I'd take a look at the contents of SYSUAF with CONVERT and DUMP, and
    see if it contains what she thinks it does.  And I'd take a look at
    the definitions of the SYSUAF, NETPROXY, NET$PROXY, and RIGHTSLIST
    logical names -- assuming the files are not located in the default
    SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE] location.  And I'd see if she has rebooted the
    host since copying over the SYSUAF, to get all the applications
    looking at the same file.  I'd also ask why she did not simply
    configure a VMScluster containing these systems, and use a common
    SYSUAF, NETPROXY, NET$PROXY, and RIGHTSLIST database while migrating
    the applications.

    As for the proxy question, I'm not sure what the customer is
    asking here.  (I can only guess that this is an artifact of the
    copy operation.)  There are a few proxy-related patches for some
    OpenVMS versions, you will want to visit the patch area and acquire
    copies of these patches.  (Look for audit server and security
    server patches, as well as for "proxy" patches.)

    I will assume that DECnet-Plus (DECnet OSI) is not in use.

	--

    It's "OpenVMS VAX" and "OpenVMS Alpha", not "VAX/VMS" and "AXP/VMS".

354.2AUSS::GARSONDECcharity Program OfficeThu Mar 20 1997 17:1236
re .0
    
>	UAF> modify * /fillm=....
>
>	she found that UAF just help her to change the first record but
>	not all.
    
    That seems odd. I was not able to reproduce any unexpected behaviour
    with limited testing. It worked for me.
    
    Can you get a log showing this?
    
    Does SHOW/BRIEF * show all the records?
    
    Just using COPY (or BACKUP) is not always an ideal means of moving
    write accessed indexed files around. CONV/SHARE is somewhat less risky.
    You would want to do some basic ANAL/RMS to make sure that the
    resulting file is good.
    
    And in the specific case of SYSUAF and RIGHTSLIST you should probably
    reboot after COPYing in a new file (unless you like excitement).
    
    Did the customer do anything with RIGHTSLIST?
    
>	One more question: During she shows the proxy record in the
>	AXP/VMS system (the SYSUAF.dat is copied from VAX and the PROXY.dat
>	is locally created in Alpha machine)
    
    Please exhibit output.
    
    Are _both_ proxy files present and accounted for? Are they in synch?
    
    re .1
    
    Gee, when I started it was spelled "VAX/VMS". I prefer "Alpha/VMS" to
    "AXP/VMS" though.