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| 139.1 | DIBOL is Digital-COBOL if I remember correctly. | STAR::65302::DMILLER | This bug fix broke what??????? | Tue Feb 04 1997 14:23 | 4 |
| That's all I remember. It's either a variant of COBOL, or it was an
old implementation of the COBOL - I think it's the latter.
-Dave
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| 139.2 | COMICS::DIBOL | XDELTA::HOFFMAN | Steve, OpenVMS Engineering | Tue Feb 04 1997 14:34 | 15 |
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Dibol is a programming language, and it is available on OpenVMS Alpha.
To locate a notes conference, use a command such as:
$ sear humane::sys$public:easynotes.lis dibol
DIBOL COMICS::DIBOL 1064
And see the following notes -- particularly note 400:
371 CSOA1::HALLIGAN 9-MAR-1992 14 DIBOL on ALPHA ????
400 SONATA::KELLY 16-FEB-1993 39 VAX DIBOL
425 50641::MGOLDWASSER 20-SEP-1993 5 Dibol on Alpha's?
444 COMICS::CHAPMANR 3-MAR-1995 5 Latest DIBOL Alpha Kit?
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| 139.3 | not available on alpha! | HYDRA::PASHAPOUR | Disk space, the final frontier | Tue Feb 04 1997 14:54 | 7 |
| Thanks for the COMICS::DIBOL pointer. It is not available on Alpha. I
am not sure what to tell the ISV with over 200 customers of theirs. He
says he has to move away from VMS now.
Thanks.
Amin
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| 139.4 | From an AltaVista search of the web ... | CSC64::BLAYLOCK | If at first you doubt,doubt again. | Tue Feb 04 1997 15:06 | 19 |
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Check out http://www.synergex.com/dibol/dibol.htm
"Do you want to port your applications to a new platform? Take advantage
of new technology?
Your existing DIBOL applications can
run on Windows '95, Windows NT, and 80+ other operating systems
run on Digital Alpha, PCs and 500 other hardware platforms
be accessed-by ODBC-compliant products such as Oracle, MS Office
Suite, and more
take advantage of client/server architecture
connect to third-party databases such as Oracle, Informix, Sybase,
and more
have more functionality than you ever thought possible
...and taking advantage of this new technology is easy!"
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| 139.5 | DBL was listed as available... | XDELTA::HOFFMAN | Steve, OpenVMS Engineering | Tue Feb 04 1997 15:08 | 7 |
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: Thanks for the COMICS::DIBOL pointer. It is not available on Alpha. I
: am not sure what to tell the ISV with over 200 customers of theirs. He
: says he has to move away from VMS now.
Odd -- I read that the DBL product was available.
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| 139.6 | There was TSD - Time Sharing DIBOL for RT-11 | WAYLAY::GORDON | Resident Lightning Designer | Tue Feb 04 1997 16:39 | 8 |
| Speaking as someone who once did a little DIBOL
programming, it most resembles FORTRAN-66 with record
structures.
Other than that, I've forgotten everything else
I knew about it.
--Doug
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| 139.7 | DBL by Synergy | HYDRA::PASHAPOUR | Disk space, the final frontier | Wed Feb 05 1997 09:42 | 8 |
| The DBL is provided by Synergy a separate company. The customer had
contacted them, but they apparently ask for a lot of money. You should
realize that this ISV does not even have an internet account/email.
They transfer files using kermit. They seem to be in a bit of crunch.
Thanks.
Amin
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| 139.8 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Wed Feb 05 1997 10:45 | 3 |
| So the customer wants software for free?
Steve
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| 139.9 | | HYDRA::SCHAFER | Mark Schafer, SPE MRO | Wed Feb 05 1997 16:05 | 16 |
| maybe suggest conversion to C?
Application: CBL
This product is a DIBOL to C translator for use by software developers
to assist in migration of existing DIBOL applications, especially to
Alpha AXP.
Vendor Contact:
Amethyst Computer Resources Ltd.
Goliath Way
Hermitage Industrial Estate
Coalville, Leicestershire United Kingdom LE6 3FT
Contact : P. S. Appleby
Voice : +44 530 813458
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| 139.10 | you get what you pay for:) | CSC32::E_VAETH | Suffering from temporary brain cramp, stay tuned | Fri Feb 07 1997 16:19 | 15 |
| >>The customer had
>>contacted them, but they apparently ask for a lot of money.
Why doesn't that surpise me:)
DIBOL was officially retired in 1994. There was an official retirement
letter that went out to DIBOL customers that same year. Mail me if you
would like a copy. We still get calls on it - because of the money
thing - Customers are, you know, used to getting things free from
Digital. We are getting better at changing that learned behavior
though. If the customer is in a crunch, then they either need to pay
SYNERGY what they are asking or switch to another language through
Digital.
-elin
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| 139.11 | | AUSS::GARSON | DECcharity Program Office | Sun Feb 09 1997 17:32 | 9 |
| re .0
Tried VEST?
Since the ISV is (presumably) the owner of the software there shouldn't
be legal problems doing that. On the other hand they would need to
investigate closely what they can do with the RTL (which may well be
owned by Digital unless we made it public domain when we dumped the
product).
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| 139.12 | RTL for VESTed DIBOL exists | EVMS::KILGALLEN | ZK0 4x11 | Wed Apr 02 1997 18:06 | 22 |
| > <<< Note 139.11 by AUSS::GARSON "DECcharity Program Office" >>>
>
> re .0
>
> Tried VEST?
>
> Since the ISV is (presumably) the owner of the software there shouldn't
> be legal problems doing that. On the other hand they would need to
> investigate closely what they can do with the RTL (which may well be
> owned by Digital unless we made it public domain when we dumped the
> product).
There is an RTL for VESTed DIBOL programs distributed with Alpha VMS:
$ dire sys$Library:dblrtl%*/date
Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]
DBLRTL_D56_TV.EXE;1 26-NOV-1996 01:20:00.25
Total of 1 file.
$
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