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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 104.1 | DECUS | XDELTA::HOFFMAN | Steve, OpenVMS Engineering | Wed Jan 29 1997 10:05 | 3 |
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Check around in the DECUS libraries.
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| 104.2 | What backup? | STAR::EVERHART | | Wed Jan 29 1997 10:56 | 4 |
| Which RSTS backup? The last of them claimed to use VMS Backup format
on tape. Some older ones might do anything. What do the tapes look like
and how old are they?
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| 104.3 | Just restore it on OpenVMS | STAR::65302::DMILLER | This bug fix broke what??????? | Wed Jan 29 1997 13:17 | 6 |
| RSTS/E BACKUP is a VMS-Compatible format.
Older versions of RSTS/E used SAVRES, not BACKUP, so if the tape truly
is a BACKUP tape, then OpenVMS can read it without a problem.
-Dave (Former RSTS/E Developer)
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| 104.4 | | AUSS::GARSON | DECcharity Program Office | Wed Jan 29 1997 17:55 | 5 |
| re .3
> RSTS/E BACKUP is a VMS-Compatible format.
Cool!
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| 104.5 | rsts-vms | SHOGUN::SKOWYRA | | Thu Jan 30 1997 07:32 | 4 |
| Hoow would I go about reading the tape? I tried using VMS backup
commands witthout any success.??
Thanks.. John S
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| 104.6 | Mount/for mua0:, then dump mua0: | POMPY::LESLIE | [email protected] | Thu Jan 30 1997 07:54 | 4 |
| Do a dump of the first few blocks and post it here so that the format
can be seen here.
/a
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| 104.7 | RSTS to VMS | SHOGUN::SKOWYRA | | Thu Jan 30 1997 08:55 | 60 |
| ump of device $1$MUA6: on 30-JAN-1997 08:56:12.54
Here are the first few blocs...Thanks in advance
Block number 1 (00000001), 84 (0054) bytes
00000000 40060100 13011A53 02572020 33455554 30313233 34355055
4B434142 BACKUP543210TUE3 W.S......@.... 000000
13011A53 02572020 33455554 30313233 34355055 4B434142 FFFF0000
00000000 ........BACKUP543210TUE3 W.S... 000020
01000100 FFFF0000 00000000 00000000
40060100 ...@............................ 000040
Dump of device $1$MUA6: on 30-JAN-1997 08:56:12.54
Block number 2 (00000002), 84 (0054) bytes
00000000 40060100 13011A53 02572020 33455554 30313233 34355055
4B434142 BACKUP543210TUE3 W.S......@.... 000000
13011A53 02572020 33455554 30313233 34355055 4B434142 FFFF0000
00000000 ........BACKUP543210TUE3 W.S... 000020
01000200 FFFF0000 00000000 00000000
40060100 ...@............................ 000040
Dump of device $1$MUA6: on 30-JAN-1997 08:56:12.54
Block number 3 (00000003), 84 (0054) bytes
00000000 40060100 13011A53 02572020 33455554 30313233 34355055
4B434142 BACKUP543210TUE3 W.S......@.... 000000
Press RETURN to
continue
Dump of device $1$MUA6: on 30-JAN-1997 08:56:12.54
Block number 4 (00000004), 84 (0054) bytes
00000000 40060100 13011A53 02572020 33455554 30313233 34355055
4B434142 BACKUP543210TUE3 W.S......@.... 000000
13011A53 02572020 33455554 30313233 34355055 4B434142 FFFF0000
00000000 ........BACKUP543210TUE3 W.S... 000020
01000400 FFFF0000 00000000 00000000
40060100 ...@............................ 000040
Dump of device $1$MUA6: on 30-JAN-1997 08:56:12.54
Block number 5 (00000005), 84 (0054) bytes
00000000 40060100 13011A53 02572020 33455554 30313233 34355055
4B434142 BACKUP543210TUE3 W.S......@.... 000000
13011A53 02572020 33455554 30313233 34355055 4B434142 FFFF0000
00000000 ........BACKUP543210TUE3 W.S... 000020
01000500 FFFF0000 00000000 00000000
40060100 ...@............................ 000040
Dump of device $1$MUA6: on 30-JAN-1997 08:56:12.54
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| 104.8 | There was a BACKUp prior to V9 | OSEC::GRAHAM | Graham Smith, Solution Support Group | Mon Feb 03 1997 08:11 | 10 |
| RE: .3
From the depths of my memory :-
There was a program called BACKUP on RSTS/E prior to version 9 that was
different to the program called BACKUP on V9 onwards. The pre-V9
version wrote tapes in a completely different format.
Graham
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| 104.9 | SAVRES wrote DOS tapes, don't remember what RMSBCK wrote. | STAR::65302::DMILLER | This bug fix broke what??????? | Mon Feb 03 1997 13:19 | 16 |
| > There was a program called BACKUP on RSTS/E prior to version 9
Not as released by RSTS/E Engineering - At least as far I recall.
RMSBCK was a program supplied by RMS to save and restore files with
RMS-11 attributes.
SAVRES was the program supplied by RSTS/E to do full saves and restores
of disk volumes.
I suppose there may have been 3rd party products called BACKUP.
Is the tape in DOS or ANSI format? Perhaps a dump of the tape with
it mounted /FOREIGN can help determine the content.
-Dave
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| 104.10 | | POMPY::LESLIE | [email protected] as of Feb 14 | Tue Feb 04 1997 02:30 | 6 |
| Dave
see .7 for a dump
/a
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| 104.11 | It looks like it is indeed from an older incarnation of BACKUP | STAR::65302::DMILLER | This bug fix broke what??????? | Tue Feb 04 1997 14:13 | 23 |
| I was reminded by another engineer that RSTS/E did indeed have another
program called BACKUP prior to V9.0. I joined the group during V9.0
development and never had to deal with the old BACKUP. (Keeping
skeletons in the closet where they belong).
It is indeed possible that this is an old BACKUP tape, and that it
might not be possible to get the data off without a RSTS/E system
or the sources to figure out the contents of the tape.
(And the sources would be a collection of BASIC-PLUS programs that
CHAINed to each other all over the place to get the work done.)
> see .7 for a dump
Yes, but how was of the tape mounted when this dump was taken? If
the tape was taken? Is this a dump of the first file on the tape,
or a physical dump of a tape mounted /FOREIGN?
Actuallly... In either case, it doesn't look like a ANSI-labelled
VMS-compatible BACKUP set. ANSI labels are 80-bytes long, and
records within a saveset should be much larger.
-Dave
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| 104.12 | Just how important is this? | STAR::65302::DMILLER | This bug fix broke what??????? | Tue Feb 04 1997 16:37 | 6 |
| > or the sources to figure out the contents of the tape.
If really needed, I know someone who still has access to all the
RSTS/E source code.
-Dave
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| 104.13 | | SHOGUN::SKOWYRA | | Mon Feb 10 1997 11:20 | 5 |
| Well the customer is really in need of the data. I have checked around
and there are'nt to many rsts systems kicking around....If I could have
acess to the source that woudl be helpful...Thanks for your response.
P.S Im no programmer...John S
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| 104.14 | | POMPY::LESLIE | Andy Leslie, DEC man walking... | Tue Feb 11 1997 06:12 | 8 |
| Have your local CSC RSTS support folk lookit. It may cost money but
this isn't a VMS-compatible backup, so if your customer really needs
the data he'll really have to pay.
/a
PS Take a copy of the tape! (TAPECOPY and other phiscial copy programs
are knocking around the net)
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