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Conference vaxaxp::vmsnotes

Title:VAX and Alpha VMS
Notice:This is a new VMSnotes, please read note 2.1
Moderator:VAXAXP::BERNARDO
Created:Wed Jan 22 1997
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:703
Total number of notes:3722

92.0. "Notes/Breakin?" by CVC067::HANSON () Mon Jan 27 1997 16:45

Hello,

            I support a cluster that has a notes conference on it.
           The moderator left the company and her account has been
           removed from the system she resided on.  Customers are
           asking me to add them as members....I am not a member.
           Is there a way, without re-adding the moderators account,
           to get into the conference....how can I break in?  How
           can assign a new moderator...I'm stuck here.  If adding
           the account back is the only why, I will need to contact
           the system manager of another cluster...etc.  The notes
           conference is on the system I support.

                                                    Any ideas, _ed
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92.1EVMS::MORONEYUHF ComputersMon Jan 27 1997 17:067
First see if perhaps the SYSTEM or some other account is a member, do any other
accounts show up by SHOW MEMBER?

Notes conferences can be hacked - I've done it - but it's not a procedure that
can be described easily in a notes conference.

-Mike
92.2AUSS::GARSONDECcharity Program OfficeMon Jan 27 1997 17:2725
    re .0  
    
    As far as I know, there is no specific functionality to deal with this.
    
    The cleanest option is to reinstate the account.
    
    If that were impossible because of lack of cooperation from the other
    cluster or whatever then
    
    you could hack your NCP database temporarily to believe that a machine
    that you control is the one that hosts the moderator
    
    or
    
    you could hack (e.g. using PATCH/ABS) the conference file to believe
    that a local account is a moderator. It would be easiest if the remote
    NODE::USER had length <= 12.
    
    
    You might want to try the NOTES notes conference since this problem has
    surely come up before.
    
    As a general point (yes, I realise it's too late) local SYSTEM should
    always be a moderator or if not, at the very least you should have two
    moderators.
92.3QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Jan 27 1997 17:395
NOTES installs a command procedure SYS$MANAGER:NOTES$MOVE_CONFERENCE.COM - one
of the things this procedure can do is set the "last moderator" to anything
you want.  See the comments for details.

				Steve
92.4ZIMBRA::BERNARDODave Bernardo, VMS EngineeringMon Jan 27 1997 18:165
    
    PAN (see conference ROCKS::PAN) allows you to reset the last 
    moderator as well.
    
    d.
92.5This way is semi-supportedMARVIN::CARLINITue Jan 28 1997 03:1215
The NOTES saveset contains PASSKEY.EXE which will allow the SYSTEM account on
the local node to set the last moderator to any account you want. You then
access the conference with this account and add a permanent moderator entry.

It's quite openly documented in one of the NOTES notes conferences.

Using it is fairly straightforward. Assuming you put the executable in
SYS$MANAGER: then do:

	$ MC SYS$MANAGER:PASSKEY -m node::SYSTEM NOTES$LIBRARY:conference

Now access the conference as a moderator and set up node::account as a new
moderator.

Antonio
92.6PASSKEY.EXECVC067::HANSONTue Jan 28 1997 10:557

           I plucked PASSKEY.EXE from the saveset and executed
          as instructed in the previous reply....Worked like a
          charm......that's for all the advice folks.

                                                       _ed