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| 23.1 | All even with a month to go.:*) | GIDDAY::MORETTI | Death is just a formality | Fri Apr 18 1997 02:54 | 19 |
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Very generous Simon (for a 2n'from) but there is NO way England will
win even one test, even with Oz's penchant for switching off after they
have demolished the opposition which in England's case started the
second the team was announced.
My prediction :
5-0
should be 6 but weather will save them in one of the tests.
On another tack do we know who is televising the tests (7-9-10) and
which pay TV is doing it (Optus/Foxtel)
I must have read the selectors memo before I wrote my reply to the
Atherton diatribe as almost all I asked has been granted.
CRIM
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| 23.2 | my op. | SNOFS1::NANCARROW | | Mon Apr 21 1997 07:31 | 11 |
| Actually
I think they will probably win one test too as the Aussies really turn
off after the series is won nowadays and the poms will be desperate to
recover some pride and pay checks. Weather permitting I think it will
be a 3 straight tests to the Aussies with England winning one of the
last two and hailing a new beginning in English cricket and the turning
of another corner. Mind you if you consider how many corners they have
turned I think they would be back to where they were 5 years ago.
Mike N.
( reiffel was dropped because he was considered to unreliable for a
long tour with injuries.
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| 23.3 | Old Bores Almanac | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | Luck with a capital F | Mon Apr 21 1997 15:05 | 13 |
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What a load of old cods! England, with the new "supremo" in place, a
brand new county format (4-day games will now begin on Wednesdays), and
a highly-motivated team of eager young bucks ready to do battle, will
wipe the floor with this tired old team of Aussie has-beens and
never-weres.
Incidentally, Reading will win the European Cup next season and
scientists will announce that, after years of research, they have found
intelligent life in Yorkshire.
Jeff
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| 23.4 | I like your personal name | GIDDAY::MORETTI | Death is just a formality | Tue Apr 22 1997 23:40 | 16 |
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Jeff,
Now I was "really" believing your note until I read the "intelligent
life in Yorkshire" diatribe :*(
I have an ex who was from York and she was as smart as a whip.....
unfortunately whips IQs are only 2.....
Also I heard on the radio Mark Waugh is already sticking it to your lot
on the BBC.
Should make the pom team come out fighting for at least the first
session.....
CRIM
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| 23.5 | Waughle. | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | Luck with a capital F | Wed Apr 23 1997 18:38 | 18 |
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Waugh apparently said that on paper England looked a good side but they
have no hunger on the pitch. Is this man appointed by the county
committees to peddle that old nonsense? That is exactly the kind of
argument used by old duffers up and down the country who desperately
wish to maintain the status quo i.e. their access to the sponsor's gin
and free parking place.
Attributing England's miserable cricketing efforts over the last few
years to "not trying hard enough" breeds an easy complacency; after
all, we're bound to find someone who "tries" eventually! You may as well
claim that the peculiar mix of Anglo-Saxon and Norman blood is
genetically pre-disposed to being bad at cricket.....hang on a mo...by
jove, I think I might have got something there!
j.
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| 23.6 | so far ... | SNOFS1::NANCARROW | | Mon May 19 1997 04:32 | 9 |
| Well,
after 3 one day games Australia has a 2-1 record having lost to
a county starting with G(something) captained by Tom Moody. This
probably is good in that there is now no pressure to win everything
and just play good cricket. Taylor has had a decent run with a 40 odd
and 70 odd so maybe he has some form comming back for the Ashes,
mind you they were pop-gun attacks.
Mike N.
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| 23.7 | sorry missed the news fully | SNOFS1::NANCARROW | | Tue May 20 1997 03:30 | 7 |
| actually minor correction
Australia scored 121 all out and Worcestershire (?) beat them by 5
wickets on a green and seaming wicket for a nice welcome to England.
Should do their egos a world of good and will probably give the English
curators a whiff of success if they put on a green top.
Mike N.
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| 23.8 | Boggling minds | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | Luck with a capital F | Wed May 21 1997 10:19 | 27 |
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Well, that settles it - the Aussies truly have no chance this summer.
The latest great innovation from England's cricket authorities is that
players must wear the offical England clobber, with the insignia (three
lions) prominently displayed. I suspect that this insignia also
includes the sponsors name, given that we are now a nation beholden to
tradition, except when it comes to money - take a bow, Margaret
Thatcher.
This means that Jack Russell, for instance, would not be allowed to
play in his "lucky" sun-hat; Alec Stewart has already conceded that he
will be wearing the nice new blue helmet, in place of the white one he
has always worn before.
This innovation will no doubt terrify the opposition - imagine the
pyschological effect of facing eleven men, all kitted out exactly the
same, with three lions and "Tetleys" staring you in the face for eight
hours a day; it's enough to make you throw your wicket away and weep at
the damned brilliance of it all.
Future plans include height and weight criteria (no-one under six foot
or weighing less than 12 stone); everyone to have mousy brown hair; all
players to be called "Michael".
Hurrah.
j.
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| 23.9 | starting soon. | SNOFS1::NANCARROW | | Thu May 22 1997 05:16 | 10 |
| after Michael Atherton or Michael Jackson. Probably the latter as
with McGrath and Gillespie on line I can see a lot of moonwalking
comming up.
another Michael
N. that is.
p.s.
First one dayer is due soon with no surprises in the side except that
Greg Blewett has an injury cloud and apparently Ricky Ponting is on
standby.
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| 23.10 | | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | Luck with a capital F | Thu May 22 1997 11:48 | 8 |
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Re. First one dayer is due soon
Today in fact. If anyone has access to the scores, please update.
j.
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| 23.11 | England 1 Asutralia 0 | SNOFS1::NANCARROW | | Fri May 23 1997 02:15 | 6 |
| Heard on the news that Australia lost the first one dayer by 6 wickets,
apparently they scored 173(?) and the English scored it with overs and
wickets to spare. But apparently England were 4 for 40 at one stage
sounds like Australia turned off a bit.
Mike N.
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| 23.12 | Start as you mean to go on.. | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | Luck with a capital F | Fri May 23 1997 11:47 | 9 |
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> But apparently England were 4 for 40 at one stage
> sounds like Australia turned off a bit.
Nice to see the Aussies are keeping up their record of never losing a
game they were trying to win.
j.
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| 23.13 | 3-0 to England in the 1-dayers | EVTSG8::TOWERS | | Mon May 26 1997 09:44 | 8 |
| re .12
Surely you don't think the Crims tried to lose all three one-dayers?
Are they on a lose-bonus or something? Mind you, England cheated in the
last one by selecting someone under 25.
Cheers,
Brian
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| 23.14 | Unfair dinkum | CHEFS::KIRKPATRICKJ | Luck with a capital F | Tue May 27 1997 14:21 | 13 |
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Re. last
Brian,
I was directing my comments to Mike who seems to have decided that it
is logically impossible for Australia to lose a game fairly - any loss
can be attributed to the umpires, cheating, Australia not really trying
to win or some combination of these factors. This interesting
definition of "lose" was much prevalent in the last, now-sadly defunct,
cricket conference.
Jeff
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| 23.15 | We played like s*&t !! | GIDDAY::MORETTI | Death is just a formality | Wed May 28 1997 00:05 | 26 |
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Now now Jeff, some of us can lose gracefully (not me but others I have
known).
I watched the first 2 games and thought England were really committed
and it was also obvious that although I think Taylor is the best
captain we have ever had he may have to go because if England remains
this committed we will need to have a "full team".
Gough was outstanding and his form was relayed to the rest of the team.
I must admit I thought the first game was going to be a one off as
evrything went Englands way, but it became obvious Englands form is
better than we thought and I just hope Slater and the Waugh boys take
note. For some strange reason it seems to be our bowling that is
letting us down so maybe McGrath needs a boot in the bum to get him
going and Gillespie is also below form as he is normally right on the
pace.
With the replays of the runouts we now have no arguments with the umps,
only our batsmen as they seem hellbent on running themselves out.
Then again maybe this is just an abberation and all will return to norm
when the tests start.
the real CRIM
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| 23.16 | | EVTSG8::TOWERS | | Wed May 28 1997 14:13 | 13 |
| Marsh, in an attempt to help Taylor sort out his batting, started
setting up a camera to video his batting in the match against
Gloucester yesterday (Oz 249, Gl 55-1). Unfortunately Taylor was out
4th ball, before the camera had even been set up.
It's a bit of a problem as the selectors are Marsh, Steve Waugh and
Taylor himself, all of whom have an interest - Marsh is an old pal and
Steve W gets the captaincy if Taylor is dropped.
Still, 249 all out sounds like the batting was generally pretty poor.
Cheers,
Brian
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| 23.17 | Why no gloating from you poms over the onedayers? | GIDDAY::MORETTI | Death is just a formality | Thu May 29 1997 02:39 | 25 |
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Being a Taylor fan and considering how good a captain he is I think we
gamble and take him into the first test and lay it on the line that he
either contributes or stands down.
Cricket is a very psychological game at this level and if one side gets
a sniff of superiority over the other then things tend to go wrong for
the struggling side.
However there is an exception to every theory and Oz is the exception
here, :^)
If Tayls fails (hey I'm a poet and didn't know it !!)AND we lose the
first test (of course hell freezes over) then MT is out Waugh in, he
bats like a man possessed, his brother doesn't want to be over-shadowed
and the Waugh boys destroy Eng .
To tell the truth I'm more worried about our bowling which I consider
to not be up to full stretch at the mo as McGrath and Gillespie seems
to be taking a backseat to Kasper and he's only an average bowler at
best.
CRIM
(fingers crossed)
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| 23.18 | | EVTSG8::TOWERS | | Thu May 29 1997 10:21 | 10 |
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>Why no gloating from you poms over the onedayers?
If you look at our home 1-day record it's very good. By comparison our
home test record is shabby to say the least. Hence, thrashing Australia
3-0 in the 1-dayers isn't something to get too excited about. The
crowing will start after we beat you in the first test :^).
Cheers,
Brian
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| 23.19 | | WOTVAX::claire.lzo.dec.com::hiltong | [email protected] | Thu May 29 1997 12:53 | 6 |
| I read in the UK papers that historically whoever wins the 1st test
goes on to win the series.
Could be England's biggest chance for some time!
Greg
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| 23.20 | Still 3-1 to Aus | PASTIT::UWINS | Voices | Thu May 29 1997 15:37 | 25 |
| I saw the highlights of the first two Texaco one-day matches and was
lucky enough to be at Lords for the third. There is no doubt that
England were the better side in all the matches; Gough was
inspirational at Lords and England's fielding and overall attitude
was better than Australia's in all 3 matches. England were struggling
when batting in the first few overs on Sunday, but once Ben Hollioke
came and and rode his luck a lot, the game was as good as over.
You really cannot use the 1-day results as a guide to the tests. For
a start Aus only had 4 bowlers for the 1-day matches. None of the
pitches really suited Warne; Mcgrath bowled quite well and Kasper may
well find a wicket or 2 to his liking in the tests. Gillespie will
improve when he becomes acclimatised to the conditions - if he does
this soon I think he'll be the best of the bowlers as he's *fast*.
Taylor is out of form, but I believe Aus must stick with him. Mike
Atherton was badly out of form at the start of the last winter tour,
but he's managed a few good knocks since, so hopefully Taylor will
be able to get a few runs soon. The Waugh's will get loads of
runs and Slater, even Healy/Gilcrest should score against England's
average bowling attack.
I hope England win 6-0 of course, but realistically a drawn series
is the best we can expect. The bookmakers still have Aus at short
odds-on to win the series and that seems about right to me.
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| 23.21 | waiting for the test | SNOFS1::NANCARROW | | Mon Jun 02 1997 04:54 | 11 |
| Taylor's form seems to get worse and worse where as Blewett and Elliot
seem to be blossoming with centuries and 50's. Maybe it is a time for a
changing of the guard as for Slater has he had a bat yet???
I think Taylor should go why take a negative into a test match the best
we can hope for him to do is last the first hour or maybe as a night
watchman. Truth is he should have been dropped after Sth Africa and
the team given a chance to get used to the new captain.
Even Greg Chappel a strong supporter of Taylor has come out and said
drop him .He went through something similar and says that it will take
more than one innings to get out of it.
Mike N.
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| 23.22 | ticket for Lords | CHEFS::GRIFFITH_D | | Mon Jun 02 1997 17:15 | 6 |
| I'm interested in attending the Lords test match.
How does one go about getting tickets?
Just turn up early and hope?
Thanks in advance.
Des Griffith
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| 23.23 | sold out | KERNEL::SUPPORT | Automatic Patch Entry System | Tue Jun 03 1997 10:49 | 8 |
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NOT A CHANCE !
It was sold out before Christmas....
There are only one or two days with vacancies at the (non-london)
tests.
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