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Conference xtine::cricket_v2

Title:The new Cricket conference
Moderator:XTINE::HARDING
Created:Fri Dec 20 1996
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:25
Total number of notes:153

20.0. "who's No. 1 batsman ??" by SNOFS1::NANCARROW () Mon Mar 03 1997 01:03

    Does anybody have the latest cricket ratings of Batsmen and bowlers ?
    I have a bet going that Steve Waugh is still the World's no1 batsman
    and that Brian Lara has never been rated the World's no 1 this is going
    on statistics and not one innings wonders like Lara. In fact Tendulkar
    would probably be number two I guess.
    Mike N.
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20.1RatingsCHEFS::PATEMANCelebreties to the HebridesMon Mar 03 1997 10:4953
    There is a web page at www.coopers.co.uk/cricketratings/index.html. The
    current scores on the doors are:
    
    Batsmen
    
    No 1	S Waugh
    No 2	B Lara
    No 3	M Waugh
    No 4	A Stewart
    No 5	D Cullinan
    No 6	M Atherton
    No 7	Saeed Anwar
    No 8	Inzamam-ul-Haq
    No 9	H Tillekerante
    No 10	S Tendulkar
    No 11	B McMillan
    No 12	J Adams
    No 13	Ijaz Ahmed
    No 14	G Kirsten
    No 15	G Thorpe
    No 16	M Azharuddin
    No 17	M Slater
    No 18	R Dravid
    No 19	S Campbell
    No 20	Salim Malik
    
    Bowlers
    
    No 1	C Ambrose
    No 2	G McGrath
    No 3	A Donald
    No 4	Mushtaq Ahmed
    No 5	S Warne
    No 6	Wasim Akram
    No 7	H Streak
    No 8	I Bishop
    No 9	P Reiffel
    No 10	C Walsh
    No 11	Waqar Younis
    No 12	A Kumble
    No 13	W P U J C Vaas
    No 14	P de Villiers
    No 15	D Gough
    No 16	J Srinath
    No 17	S Raju
    No 18	K Benjamin
    No 19	M Muralitharan
    No 20	B McMillan
    
    Not sure if Lara has ever been No 1 but I think you are a little
    "Oz-Centric" in calling him a one innings wonder!
    
    Pual	
20.2Larta just doesn't make the listGIDDAY::MORETTIDeath is just a formalityTue Mar 04 1997 21:0716
    
    Mike's problem is that we have just seen Lara go thru summer here in Oz
    and he looked pathetic and the whole time we had Tony Greig caling him
    the "prince" which is really silly as he has a lot to prove to the Oz
    team. We really destroyed his averages this summer and he whinged and
    whined the whole summer.
    
    As for the best batsman of all time I think it's a tossup between
    Border or Boycott. Not that I think they could win a match like the
    Waugh boys but if I had to have someone bat and make 50 runs to save my
    life I'd feel happy these guys could do it.
    
    For flamboyance, Tendulkar, Gower, M.Waugh, RRichardson, V.Richards,
    I.Chappell or Walters .......on "their day".
    
    CRIM
20.3weeellll...SNOFS1::NANCARROWWed Mar 05 1997 04:509
    Actually I do not consider it a problem but pride in the national team.
    As for Lara has he ever scored big against a strong team i.e. Pakistan
    Australia and South Africa. Do not forget the world record was against
    a weak English bowling lineup on a Flat track. 
    AS for Steve Waugh he has scored big against all-comers and so has 
    Tendulkar to my knowledge.
    Lara's average must be pretty interesting at the moment with a good
    case of dropsy.
    Mike N.
20.4how do they do it ???SNOFS1::NANCARROWThu Mar 06 1997 03:455
    I wonder how they can calculate the top batsman and bowler when there
    is significant difference in the quality of teams. If based on averages
    then somebody could go to the top on test series against England and
    New Zealand. Perhaps it should be based on the last 4 years efforts.
    mike N.
20.5suffering old timers disease ??.....GIDDAY::MORETTIDeath is just a formalityFri Mar 07 1997 01:3315
    
    Mike,
    
    How quickly we forget Lara's BIG score at the SCG on the previous tour
    which is why he called his baby Sydney.
    
    I think it was 279 or something like that, and it was against us , not
    those pretender poms :^)
    
    Check the Coopers and Lybrand web cricket site for how they calculate
    it :
    
    		www.coopers.co.uk/cricketratings/index.html
    
    CRIM
20.6lets see...SNOFS1::NANCARROWFri Mar 07 1997 03:184
    Yeah I remember but I think I might get a copy Wisden and have a look
    at when and where he scored his runs, particularly in the past two
    years or so.
    Mike N.