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Title: | TLE Trip Reports |
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Moderator: | DECC::AMARTIN |
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Created: | Fri Jun 02 1989 |
Last Modified: | Mon Mar 31 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 216 |
Total number of notes: | 395 |
216.0. "UK Developer Days Trip Report" by QUARK::LIONEL (Free advice is worth every cent) Mon Mar 31 1997 12:57
Subj: UK Developer Days Trip Report
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To: Fortran Group Date: 31-March-1997
Dave Hague From: Steven Lionel
Ian McKenzie Dept: Core Technologies Group
DTN: 381-2073 Loc.: ZKO2-3/N30
E-Mail: QUARK::LIONEL
[email protected]
Rev.: 0
I attended the Microsoft Developer Days events in London and
Birmingham, England, March 25 and 26 1997. I was a
last-minute substitute, the situation not being helped by my
discovery that my passport expired on the 24th! However, I
was able to renew the passport in time. The flight over was
uneventful, but I arrived at 6AM local time, when my body
thought it was 1AM. It took me two days to begin to adjust.
There were two separate events - London on the 25th and
Birmingham on the 26th. The London venue was at an arena in
the Docklands district, a two-hour tube ride from my hotel
near Heathrow, delayed somewhat by a bomb scare due to an
unattended package at one of the stations down the line. The
package was claimed and the train continued. The
organization of the London event was pretty much the same as
it was in Boston - right down to the same scripted sessions
and the taped Gates opening, though one difference was that
things started later than they did in Boston. I heard that
about 1200 attended (it seemed about the same as Boston.)
I spent the majority of the day by the Digital booth there
was a 200i workstation running Windows NT onto which I
installed DVF so that I could demonstrate it. I also copied
over the "home page" of our Fortran web site, with the
"DIGITAL Fortran" graphics in the hope of attracting people
over. It worked better than I had expected over the course
of the day I spoke to about a dozen people using Fortran who
were interested in DVF. The only actual demonstration I
gave, however, was to a pair of bored paramedics who were
looking for someone to talk to.
The vendor exhibits were set up in a central area between the
various presentation rooms and where food/drinks were served.
(Well, it sort of was food - the lunch consisted of "tea
sandwiches" which were small and tasteless. Otherwise, there
were "biscuits" (sort of a mix between crackers and cookies),
including the famous "digestives". I have never before
encountered such awful "convention food".) There were perhaps
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a dozen or more exhibitors (contrast with Boston where there
were about four.) The layout was good, as attendees tended to
circulate by on their way to and from presentations. There
were two software distributors there, neither one of which
had heard about DVF. I gave Kathy's name to both. (This
seems to be a persistent problem the resellers dont even know
the product exists.) I was asked if Digital could provide any
collateral or marketing assistance, something we are going to
have to help with.
My presentation, which had the broad theme of development
tools but which featured DVF, was scheduled for 5PM. I had
been told that I had 45 minutes, and had prepared for that
length, but when I got there, I discovered that the
organizers had given half my time to Fujitsu (which was there
to talk about their Cobol compiler), without telling me in
advance. I stepped through the slides at a quick pace, and
skipped part of the demo that would have been familiar to the
audience (having seen the same features shown with Visual
Studio earlier in the day.) I closed with a demo run of the
QWPiano example program playing "The Entertainer" through the
PCs speakers (but hooked up to the rooms sound system.) I had
about 20 people in the room, (a bit more than I expected),
and they seemed genuinely interested. It was another
two-hour (thereabouts) ride back to the hotel (but at least I
could sit down most of the trip!) There, my host Dave Hague
from the Reading office picked up his car and we drove to
Birmingham, about 100 miles away, where we checked into a
hotel near the event site.
The Birmingham event was held at the National Motorcycle
Museum, but nary a cycle was to be seen around the convention
center building. Unlike in London, the meeting rooms were
two floors away from the exhibit areas the Digital booth was
tucked in the back of a secondary room and we were afraid
that we would not get enough traffic, even though coffee and
lunch would be served in both rooms. This fear turned out to
be unfounded, we got plenty of people coming by, though since
overall attendance was about 750, it was slower than London
(especially as between food breaks, NOBODY was in the exhibit
area, unlike London. Nevertheless, I did get several people
come by and ask about Fortran (though, as in London, some
asked "I remember Fortran - does anyone still use it?" The
lunch was again tea sandwiches and biscuits and was again
awful.
I again did my presentation in the last slot of the day
(5:05PM), but as the Fujitsu Cobol people didnt show, I had
the entire slot to myself. (There were people there from
ICL, once a well-known British mainframe manufacturer, but
now a subsidiary of Fujitsu mainly providing services.) The
room was nice and big, and if I shielded my eyes from the
lights, I could count the, um, four people in attendance
(including one Digit.) Nevertheless, one audience member
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asked me several serious questions about DIGITAL Visual
Fortran, mainly about the IMSL libraries and any other
mathematics libraries that might be available. I told him
about the plans to make DXML available, but I couldn't give
(didn't know) details. Afterwards, when all was packed up
and on the truck, Dave drove me back to London, but on the
way we stopped for dinner at a nice pub in Oxford, after
which I got my first view of Hale-Bopp.
Thursday morning, Dave picked me up and drove me to the
Digital offices in Reading (REO). The facility most reminds
me of MRO, but nicer. To enter or exit the building, you had
to use a keycard I got a "visitor" card. There, I did an
abbreviated form of my presentation, concentrating on DIGITAL
Visual Fortran, which the folks there will be receiving
support calls on. One issue which came up was how they would
get kits - would they have to order them at retail? I think
a good idea would be to create a special version of the kit
which doesnt include Developer Studio, requiring that Visual
C++ be installed, assuming that this would still not obligate
us to pay royalties to Microsoft. (Indeed, I think such a
configuration might be worth selling, though it may be that
the price difference isnt worth the hassle of stocking a
separate kit.)
Again the issue of who sells the product came up weve been
telling customers to "call your local Digital sales office",
but this doesnt help if the Digital people dont know what to
say. I think we should compile a list of known resellers and
make it available at least internally (though I favor the
idea of putting it on the external web pages as well.) Also,
the Reading people were unaware of what types of service we
were offering for DIGITAL Visual Fortran, and I explained it
as best I could. This too needs to be communicated clearly
to the field. Afterwards, Ian McKenzie, Dave and I went out
to a pub lunch, where I tried yet another locally brewed ale
(quite good!) Ian had initially arranged for me to meet with
a customer in the afternoon, but when we discovered that the
customer didnt care about Fortran and wanted instead to grill
me about the availability of Alpha versions of VB and VC++,
the meeting was cancelled. Dave then drove me back to London
and we said our farewells.
The messages I heard in England were much the same as I'm
hearing in the US. Customers are eager to buy DIGITAL Visual
Fortran, if only they can figure out where to order it. The
combination of a quality Fortran compiler with a compatible
language through high-performance systems, and Developer
Studio, is unbeatable. The field needs to know what to tell
customers who call them to ask where to buy the product, and
what the service options are. We do not seem to have
effectively communicated that to date.
And now a bit of travelogue England is a very enjoyable place
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to visit the notoriously bad weather even held off for the
most part it was cool and sunny most days. The first thing I
noticed was that everything and everyone was so polite, even
the "under construction" signs! Tube operators would ask
passengers to "mind the gap, please," referring to the
sometimes uneven match between train and platform. A series
of signs along an escalator explained in apologetic tones why
some escalators would be out of service during maintenance,
insisting that "your journey will not be delayed." The roads
are all clearly marked, and traffic on the Motorways (like
our Interstates) flowed smoothly at speeds of up to 100MPH
(even though the legal limit is 70) with drivers courteously
keeping to the left except to pass none of the weaving and
dodging I see in the US. Prices are high even though the
pound is valued at about $1.60, it is common to find that
products cost in pounds about what Americans would pay in
dollars that includes Digital hardware and software. I dont
quite understand this. But pub food (and drink) was a
relative bargain, close to US prices with better quality
(even if there was a preference for foods high in fat,
including vegetables that frequently came in a butter-type
sauce.)
In closing, I want to give special thanks to Dave Hague for
carting me around the countryside and helping to make my
visit pleasant and rewarding.
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