Conference help::decnet-osi_for_vms

3951.0. "OSAK$NETMAN.COM startup fails at NCL ena OSAK" by ATZIS2::EHRLICH_K (Never met a Lady like her before!) Fri May 02 1997 03:28

Hi,
	we'Ve encountered a funny behaviour with starting OSAK
on OpenVMS ALPHA V7.1 with DECnet-Plus. (Seemed to be the same as 
in #2356, but not really.)

During startup of OSAK, it fails with;
    
%NCL-E-CMLSENDFAILED, error sending command request
-CML-E-EMAAPROB, error returned from VMS EMA agent
-NCL-E-ENTCLSNOTSUPP, entity class not supported
    
%%% Unexpected error
%NONAME-E-NOMSG, message number 13B48072
    
After doing some troubleshooting we found, that

OSAK$SERVER_V3 process is there BUT NO OSAK$NETMAN process is running.
    
With $ accounting/full we found that

DETACHED Process Termination
----------------------------
Username:          SYSTEM            UIC:               [SYSTEM]

Final status text: %RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device typ

What'S strange for us -> the OSAK$NETMAN.COM:

$ !--
$ cmalib = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[OSAK]"
$ define/nolog/executive_mode cma$lib_shr "''cmalib'CMA$LIB_SHR.EXE"
$ define/nolog/executive_mode cma$open_lib_shr "''cmalib'CMA$OPEN_LIB_SHR.EXE"
$ define/nolog/executive_mode cma$rtl "''cmalib'CMA$RTL.EXE"
$ define/nolog/executive_mode cma$open_rtl "''cmalib'CMA$OPEN_RTL.EXE"
$ run SYS$SYSTEM:OSAKNM.EXE
$ EXIT

On this is true, there's never a SYS$SYSDEVICE:<osak>. 
Honestly I don'T what reason does the logicals have?
After removing them, OSAK starts happily.
Oh yes, we start UCX, too. But it doesn'T matter if you start
OSAK first or after UCX. It seems that the problem is the 
logicals.

Do you have any ideas?

MTIA for your kind support,
Cheers
Charly

ES2A01$ prod sho prod *
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
PRODUCT                             KIT TYPE    STATE
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
DEC AXPVMS DECNET_OSI V7.1          Full LP     Available
DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-4           Full LP     Available
DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1             Platform    Available
DEC AXPVMS OSAK V3.0-P              Full LP     Available
DEC AXPVMS SWXCR_E V1.1             Full LP     Available
DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.1-12              Full LP     Available
DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1                 Oper System Available
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------

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>Do you have any ideas?

Nope.  We're not even entirely certain why those logicals are there, or why they
are failing in some rare cases.  We think they may have been there to work
around an old problem with a runtime library.

We'll probably put this on our todo list for the 7.2 release - that is to figure
out if we still need these (since it doesn't look like we do).

--Scott

    Hi Scott,
    
    	ok, we remove the lines in the script. IMHO I think they're really
    obsolete. 
    
    Many thanks for putting this on your 'todo'-list.
    
    Cheers
    Charly