Conference help::decnet-osi_for_vms

Kurt,

From your note I am not sure whether you searched the conference for any
potentially related articles, or whether you did find note 3879.0 ...

Anyway, perhaps you would like to look at and let me know whether it might
be relevant.

Regards,

	John

I noticed in the log you provided that you had several errors relating to the
fact that you already had a DNS server running on this node. Perhaps you should
try this again with the DNS server shut down. In fact, it might be a good idea
to do this sort of network configuration with DECnet shut down.

If you can, please try it again without the DNS server, and let us know if that
works.

Thanks,
John Saunders
DECdns Engineering

    
    
    
      Kurt,
    
      The log looks like there was some kind of problem with loading 
    LES and routing, possibly a problem as a result of doing a network 
    shutdown then the config/start ??
    
    Anyway I would definately expect a crash on shutdown if an entity 
    did not load properly as indicated in the log with routing.  We try 
    to shutdown a process whos address we get from les ... but there is 
    none and things go down hill quickly.
    
     - Mark
    

    Thanks for your replies,
    
    In the meantime I tried the steps mentioned in note 3879.0 and did
    some more installations.
    
    	The main problem is to create a primary DNS-server with a new
    namespace. Because I used to build a new namespace with NET$CONFIGURE
    I could not figure out the steps required to avoid a CDI-flush of its
    own name. As John Weir mentioned options 1 and 2 do this and without 
    them you don't get any further. In case anybody has figured out how
    a Non-DNS-Expert will be successful to create an initial namespace
    on a DECnet/OSI V6.3-ECO06 system we would be very interessted to know.
    My workaround to this is to install DECnet/OSI V6.3 again (removes
    ECO6) and create the initial namespace with NET$CONFIGURE option 1.
    After that I upgraded the primary DNS-server to DECnet/OSI V6.3-ECO05
    and DNS ECO 70. May be I try ECO 6 again later on my primary DNS
    server, but first of all I'd like to do some DNS-server failover tests.
    
    	With my secondary server I tried to follow Johns note 3879.0
    means to avoid NET$CONFIGURE option 1 or 2. 
    
    The following steps were required,
    
    1. Install DECnet/OSI V6.3-ECO06 with DNS-Server and DECdns ECO 70.
    
    2. Reboot after defining  CDI_CACHE_TTL to be 5184000 (in SYLOGICALS.COM)
    
    3. Configure DECnet with NET$CONFIGURE option 1 and
       specified "* Naming cache timeout value? [30-00:00:00] : 60-00:00:00"
       For some reason the existing namespace was not shown up, so it could
       not be accessed. See attached log.
    
    4. Now I deleted the following files after shutting down DECnet,
    
       sys$sysdevice:[dns$server]*.*.*
       sys$system:dns$cache.*.*
       sys$share:dns$ns_*.dat.
       sys$system:dns_*.dat.
    
    	- as the next step I executed DNS$CONFIGURE option 3, but this
    	  was a bad idea, I've got the following in SYS$SYSDEVICE:[DNS$SERVER]
    	  BARTOK_CH.CHECKPOINT0000000002;1     BARTOK_CH.TLOG0000000002;1
          BARTOK_CH.VERSION;1 DNS$SERVER.DMP;1 VM_DATA.;1
    	  so I repeated 4) again.
    
    5. Halt the CPU and reboot (to avoid writeback of DNS-clerk-cache)
    
    6. Execute DNS$CONFIGURE option 3 and it worked just fine.
     
    	If the CDI-cache entry of the DNS server's own node-name will
    not flush we are save as it turns out. 
    
    Q: Is this going to be changed in a future DECnet/OSI ECO ?
    
    re .2
    
    	I needed so many attempts in order to find out what was wrong
    that I did not always reboot, but the main problem was the same if 
    the DNS server was down.
    
    re .3
    
    	I don't understand those LES events either because they appeared
    after reboot... may be because my NET$CONFIGURE option 1 was not 
    completed before. After that many experimental reboots I can't remember
    the conditions. 
    
    Regards
    Kurt
    
    
    <-log->
            Configuration Options for Node BARTOK
    
            [0]     Exit this procedure
    
            [1]     Perform an entire configuration
            [2]     Change naming information
            [3]     Configure Devices on this machine
            [4]     Configure Transports
            [5]     Configure Timezone Differential Factor
            [6]     Configure Event Dispatcher
            [7]     Configure Application database
            [8]     Configure MOP Client database
            [9]     Configure Cluster Alias
            [10]    Replace MOP Client configuration
    
    * Which configuration option to perform?                 [1] :
    * Enter the directory services to use on the system [DECDNS,LOCAL] :
    * Enter the full name for directory service DECDNS [ebs:.test.bartok] :
    * Enter the full name for directory service LOCAL [local:.bartok] :
    * What is the synonym name for this node?           [BARTOK] :
    * Naming cache timeout value?                  [30-00:00:00] :
    60-00:00:00
    * Session Control Address Update Interval ?             [10] :
    * Naming cache checkpoint interval?               [08:00:00] :
    * Enter PhaseIV Address                               [10.9] :
    * Enter Phase IV Prefix                        [39:756:1139] :
    * Autoconfigure network addresses?                     [YES] :
    * DNA Address Format?                                 [TRUE] :
    * Do you want to use segregated mode routing?           [NO] :
    * Routing Default ES Hello Timer ?                     [600] :
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-SCANCONFIG, scanning device configuration - please wait
    * Do you want asynchronous datalink support?            [NO] :
    * Data Link name to use for XQA0 (DELQA)?         [CSMACD-0] :
    * Routing Circuit Name for Data Link 'CSMACD-0'?  [CSMACD-0] :
    * Enable Phase-IV Addressing on Routing Circuit 'CSMACD-0'? [YES] :
    * Data Link name to use for XQB0 (DELQA)?         [CSMACD-1] : none
    * Do you want to configure DECnet over X.25?            [NO] :
    
            Timezone Options:
    
            [0]     Exit Timezone Configuration
    
            [1]     Choose a timezone using menus
            [2]     Use Universal Coordinated Time (UTC)
            [3]     Type in your own timezone rule
    
    * Enter an option number                                 [1] : 0
    
    * Configure the NSP Transport?                         [YES] :
    *   Maximum number of logical links ?                  [200] :
    *   Maximum Transmit and Receive Window ?               [20] :
    *   Maximum Receive Buffers  ?                        [4000] :
    * Configure the OSI Transport?                         [YES] :
    *   Maximum number of logical links ?                  [200] :
    *   Maximum Transmit and Receive Window ?               [20] :
    *   Maximum Receive Buffers  ?                        [4000] :
    *   Run OSI Applications over TCP/IP ?                 [YES] :
    *   Run DECnet over TCP/IP ?                           [YES] :
    * Is this system operating in a multi-protocol network? [YES] :
    * Do you want to replace the existing NSP transport script? [NO] :
    * Do you want to replace the existing OSI transport script? [NO] :
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-EVDFND, Event Dispatcher NCL script already exists
    * Replace Event Dispatcher NCL script file?             [NO] :
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-APPLICATIONFND, application NCL script already exists
    * Replace application script file?                      [NO] :
    * Load MOP on this system?                              [No] :
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-MOPCLIENTFND, MOP client NCL script already exists
    * Replace MOP Client script file?                       [NO] :
    
            Summary of Configuration
    
     Node Information:
    
            Directory Services Chosen:      DECDNS,LOCAL
            Primary Directory Service:      DECDNS
            DECdns Full name:       ebs:.test.bartok
            Local Full name:        local:.bartok
            Node Synonym:           BARTOK
            Phase IV Address:       10.9
            Phase IV Prefix:        39:756:1139
            Autoconfiguration of Network Addresses: Enabled
            Session Control Address Update Interval:        10
            Routing ESHello Timer:  600
    
     Device Information:
    
            Device: XQA0 (DELQA):
                    Data Link name: CSMACD-0
                    Routing Circuit Name:   CSMACD-0
    
     Transport Information:
    
            NSP Transport:                    Configured
               Maximum number of logical links:     200
               Maximum Transmit and Receive Window: 20
               Maximum Receive Buffers:             4000
    
            OSI Transport:                    Configured
               Maximum number of logical links:     200
               Maximum Transmit and Receive Window: 20
               Maximum Receive Buffers:             4000
    
            Congestion Avoidance Disabled
    
     Event Dispatcher Configuration:
    
            Sinks:            local_sink
            Outbound Streams: local_stream
            Phase IV Relay:   Enabled
    
    * Do you want to generate NCL configuration scripts?   [YES] :
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-MODCHECKSUM, checksumming NCL management scripts
    modified by NET$CONFIGURE
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-NOTREPLACED, SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]NET$APPLICATION_STARTUP.NC
    L; was not replaced
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-NOTREPLACED, SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]NET$EVENT_STARTUP.NCL;
    was not replaced
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-NOTREPLACED, SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]NET$MOP_CLIENT_STARTUP.NCL
    ; was  not replaced
    
    The namespace you specified was EBS.
    
    %DNS-E-NOMATNS, The specified namespace is not being served on your LAN.
            please choose from the following list
    
     [ 1]  DOMAIN
     [ 2]  LOCAL
     [ 3]  X500
    
     [ 0]  - Reject this list -
    
      Pick a number from the list: 0
    
           If you are installing DECnet/OSI for VMS for the first time
           and you want to create a namespace, type Y.  If you want to
           attempt a WAN connection to a remote DECdns server,
           type N (default) at the following prompt:
    
    
    Do you want to proceed with creating a new namespace [n]: y
    
    
           Your next input will determine the name of the clearinghouse
           in your namespace ebs.  Enter the clearinghouse name as
           alphanumeric and/or underscore characters.
    
    Enter a simple name for the clearinghouse: bartok_ch
    
    Node 0
    at 1997-02-27-15:47:28.760+01:00Iinf
    
    %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-FEB-1997 15:47:29.26  %%%%%%%%%%%
    Message from user SYSTEM on BARTOK
    Event: Deleted Maintained Object from: Node 0:.TEST.BARTOK Session
    Control,
            at: 1997-02-27-15:47:29.200+01:00Iinf
            Name=08-00-2B-1A-DD-3E-E3-18-33-C2-31-08-9B-00:.TEST.BARTOK,
            Reason=32866305,
            Client=,
            Higher Towers=
           {
              (
              [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] ,
              [ DNA_SessionControlV3 , number = 19 ]
              ) ,
              (
              [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] ,
              [ DNA_SessionControlV2 , number = 19 ]
              )
           },
            Last Successful Update=,
            Last Update Completed=,
            Last Update Started=1997-02-27-15:40:33.880+01:00Iinf,
            Last Failure Reason=
           [
           Originator = Naming Service ,
           Naming Service = Unable to communicate with any DECdns server
           ],
            UID=17411320-90B7-11D0-8002-AA0004000928,
    
    
    %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-FEB-1997 15:47:29.28  %%%%%%%%%%%
    Message from user SYSTEM on BARTOK
            Update Failures=3,
            Update Successes=0,
            Creation Time=1997-02-27-15:35:23.730+01:00Iinf
            eventUid   C7AB0300-90B8-11D0-93C1-08002B1ADD3E
            entityUid  EBEBEF60-90B6-11D0-8001-AA0004000928
            streamUid  24AD5AA0-90B7-11D0-8002-AA0004000928
    
    
    %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-FEB-1997 15:47:29.44  %%%%%%%%%%%
    Message from user SYSTEM on BARTOK
    Event: Update Failure from: Node 0:.TEST.BARTOK Session Control Tower
    Maintenanc
    e 0:.TEST.BARTOK,
            at: 1997-02-27-15:47:29.400+01:00Iinf
            Reason=
           [
           Originator = Naming Service ,
           Naming Service = Unable to communicate with any DECdns server
           ]
            eventUid   C7C98780-90B8-11D0-93C1-08002B1ADD3E
            entityUid  C7B5B160-90B8-11D0-93C1-08002B1ADD3E
            streamUid  24AD5AA0-90B7-11D0-8002-AA0004000928
    
    
    %DNS-I-SERVERALREADYRUNNING, There is already a DNS$Server process
    running.
    
    Your default namespace nickname is ebs.
    
    
    Node 0
    at 1997-02-27-15:47:41.720+01:00Iinf
    
    %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-FEB-1997 15:47:42.19  %%%%%%%%%%%
    Message from user SYSTEM on BARTOK
    Event: Deleted Maintained Object from: Node EBS:.TEST.BARTOK Session
    Control,
            at: 1997-02-27-15:47:42.130+01:00Iinf
            Name=0:.TEST.BARTOK,
            Reason=32866305,
            Client=,
            Higher Towers=
           {
              (
              [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] ,
              [ DNA_SessionControlV3 , number = 19 ]
              ) ,
              (
              [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] ,
              [ DNA_SessionControlV2 , number = 19 ]
              )
           },
            Last Successful Update=,
            Last Update Completed=,
            Last Update Started=1997-02-27-15:47:29.400+01:00Iinf,
            Last Failure Reason=
           [
           Originator = Naming Service ,
           Naming Service = Unable to communicate with any DECdns server
           ],
            UID=C7B5B160-90B8-11D0-93C1-08002B1ADD3E,
            Update Failures=1,
    
    
    %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-FEB-1997 15:47:42.20  %%%%%%%%%%%
    Message from user SYSTEM on BARTOK
            Update Successes=0,
            Creation Time=1997-02-27-15:47:29.270+01:00Iinf
            eventUid   CF5FF920-90B8-11D0-93C2-08002B1ADD3E
            entityUid  EBEBEF60-90B6-11D0-8001-AA0004000928
            streamUid  24AD5AA0-90B7-11D0-8002-AA0004000928
    
    
    BARTOK::SYSTEM 15:50:20 DNS$CONFI CPU=00:02:53.14 PF=41915 IO=4535
    MEM=1255
    BARTOK::SYSTEM 15:50:39 DNS$CONFI CPU=00:02:53.15 PF=41916 IO=4536
    MEM=1256
    BARTOK::SYSTEM 15:50:58 DNS$CONFI CPU=00:02:53.15 PF=41916 IO=4537
    MEM=1256
    %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-FEB-1997 15:51:01.98  %%%%%%%%%%%
    Message from user SYSTEM on BARTOK
    Event: Update Failure from: Node EBS:.TEST.BARTOK Session Control Tower
    Maintena
    nce EBS:.TEST.BARTOK,
            at: 1997-02-27-15:51:01.950+01:00Iinf
            Reason=
           [
           Originator = Naming Service ,
           Naming Service = Clerk timeout occurred before any modifications
    complete
    d
           ]
            eventUid   467A15E0-90B9-11D0-93C2-08002B1ADD3E
            entityUid  CF892C00-90B8-11D0-93C2-08002B1ADD3E
            streamUid  24AD5AA0-90B7-11D0-8002-AA0004000928
    
    
    
    Create Group error: %DNS-E-TIMEOUTNOTDONE, Clerk timeout occurred
    before any mod
    ifications completed
    
    Failed to create group: DNS_Admin - please submit an SPR.
    
    
    Node 0 DNS Clerk
    at 1997-02-27-15:51:06.620+01:00Iinf
    
    
    
    Node 0 DNS Clerk
    at 1997-02-27-15:51:10.030+01:00Iinf
    
    
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-FLUSHCACHE, flushing selected cache entries
    
    Node 0
    at 1997-02-27-15:51:31.090+01:00Iinf
    
    %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-FEB-1997 15:51:31.47  %%%%%%%%%%%
    Message from user SYSTEM on BARTOK
    Event: Deleted Maintained Object from: Node EBS:.TEST.BARTOK Session
    Control,
            at: 1997-02-27-15:51:31.410+01:00Iinf
            Name=EBS:.TEST.BARTOK,
            Reason=32866305,
            Client=,
            Higher Towers=
           {
              (
              [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] ,
              [ DNA_SessionControlV3 , number = 19 ]
              ) ,
              (
              [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] ,
              [ DNA_SessionControlV2 , number = 19 ]
              )
           },
            Last Successful Update=,
            Last Update Completed=,
            Last Update Started=1997-02-27-15:51:01.950+01:00Iinf,
            Last Failure Reason=
           [
           Originator = Naming Service ,
           Naming Service = Clerk timeout occurred before any modifications
    complete
    d
           ],
            UID=CF892C00-90B8-11D0-93C2-08002B1ADD3E,
            Update Failures=1,
    
    
    %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-FEB-1997 15:51:31.55  %%%%%%%%%%%
    Message from user SYSTEM on BARTOK
            Update Successes=0,
            Creation Time=1997-02-27-15:47:42.400+01:00Iinf
            eventUid   58095320-90B9-11D0-93C2-08002B1ADD3E
            entityUid  EBEBEF60-90B6-11D0-8001-AA0004000928
            streamUid  24AD5AA0-90B7-11D0-8002-AA0004000928
    
    
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-NODERENAMED, node successfully renamed to
    ebs:.test.bartok
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-NEWNAMESPACE, a new namespace has been created
    
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-ADDGROUP, adding .WorldRead_Group to the new
    namepspace
    %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  27-FEB-1997 15:54:50.96  %%%%%%%%%%%
    Message from user SYSTEM on BARTOK
    Event: Update Failure from: Node EBS:.TEST.BARTOK Session Control Tower
    Maintena
    nce EBS:.TEST.BARTOK,
            at: 1997-02-27-15:54:50.930+01:00Iinf
            Reason=
           [
           Originator = Naming Service ,
           Naming Service = Clerk timeout occurred before any modifications
    complete
    d
           ]
            eventUid   CEF5A920-90B9-11D0-93C2-08002B1ADD3E
            entityUid  58170EC0-90B9-11D0-93C2-08002B1ADD3E
            streamUid  24AD5AA0-90B7-11D0-8002-AA0004000928
    
    
    Error on entity: EBS:.WorldRead_Group
    %DNS-E-TIMEOUTNOTDONE, Clerk timeout occurred before any modifications
    completed
    
    No Changes Made
    BARTOK>sho log cdi*
    
    (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE)
    
    (LNM$JOB_8273E900)
    
    (LNM$GROUP_000001)
    
    (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
    
      "CDI$MBX" = "MBA22:"
      "CDI_CACHE_TTL" = "5184000"
    
    (DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES)
    BARTOK>typ net$searchpath_startup.ncl
    !%  NET$CONFIGURE.COM Created
    !%  NCL Script SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSMGR]NET$SEARCHPATH_STARTUP.NCL;
    !%  27-FEB-1997 15:46:14.51
    !%
    SET NODE 0 SESSION CONTROL NAMING SEARCH PATH -
            ([DIRECTORY SERVICE = DECDNS, TEMPLATE = "*"], -
            [DIRECTORY SERVICE = DECDNS, TEMPLATE = "ebs:*"], -
            [DIRECTORY SERVICE = DECDNS, TEMPLATE = "ebs:.test.*"], -
            [DIRECTORY SERVICE = DECDNS_SYNONYM, TEMPLATE =
    "ebs:.DNA_NodeSynonym.*"
    ], -
            [DIRECTORY SERVICE = LOCAL, TEMPLATE = "*"], -
            [DIRECTORY SERVICE = LOCAL, TEMPLATE = "local:*"], -
            [DIRECTORY SERVICE = LOCAL, TEMPLATE = "local:.*"])
    SET NODE 0 SESSION CONTROL BACK SEARCH PATH -
            ([DIRECTORY SERVICE = DECDNS, TEMPLATE =
    "ebs:.DNA_BackTranslation"], -
            [DIRECTORY SERVICE = LOCAL, TEMPLATE = ""])
    SET NODE 0 SESSION CONTROL NAMING CACHE TIMEOUT 60-00:00:00
    SET NODE 0 SESSION CONTROL NAMING CACHE CHECKPOINT INTERVAL 08:00:00
    BARTOK>

    Hi Kurt,
    
    John has opened an IPMT on the CDI cache problem 
    with the local name on a DECdns server.   We are
    actively working on resolving this as soon as
    possible.
    
    In the mean time, if you have a running DECdns
    sever with the CDI cache entries intact, then 
    making a backup copy of the sys$specific: [sysexe]
    DECnet_cdi_cache.dat;1 file saves some steps
    if the servers own CDI cache entry is deleted.  
    CDI only reads version 1 of this file at boot time.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Pat