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Conference help::decnet-osi_for_vms

Title:DECnet/OSI for OpenVMS
Moderator:TUXEDO::FONSECA
Created:Thu Feb 21 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3990
Total number of notes:19027

3852.0. "need MINI_NETUPDATE.COM for DECnet Plus" by GRUFFY::ZAHORA (Rob Zahora) Wed Jan 29 1997 12:13

    When my system was a phase IV node, it used a procedure called
    MINI_NETUPDATE.COM by Phil Wells to periodically update a
    less-than-full node data base.  Is a similar procedure available for
    DECnet Plus?  The UPDATE-NETWORK-DATABASE.COM posted in 2135.24 does
    this for the full data base, but I'm looking for something that will
    work with a subset of all nodes.
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3852.1It depends! :-)DAVIDF::FOXDavid B. Fox -- DTN 285-2091Thu Jan 30 1997 11:2315
If you're using DECdns for naming lookups then you don't need such a thing as
your node "database" will be up to date all the time.  This is one of the
beauties of DECnet Plus!

If you're using the LOCAL namespace then you have a need for a similar
procedure.  Is your node on the Easynet?  Do you need the entire Easynet
database or just a handfull of nodes?

If you're on the Easynet all the time, it is best to use the DEC: namespace.  

Since DECdns on the Easynet can be a problem at times, I use a populated LOCAL
namespace on my machine which mirrors the Easynet.  I update every Sunday night.
The procedure is in this conference, note 2135.

	David
3852.2GRUFFY::ZAHORARob ZahoraThu Jan 30 1997 17:108
    I should have mentioned that right now I'm running with a LOCAL
    namespace.  I use a subset of about 200 nodes from the Easynet
    database.  I realize I could do an update with the entire network
    database but I'd rather not take the space and time that this would
    require if I don't have to.
    
    As for DECdns, I'm not familiar with it and bypassed the capability
    during the DECnet Plus install.
3852.3PYRO::RONRon S. van ZuylenFri Jan 31 1997 03:0110
>Since DECdns on the Easynet can be a problem at times, I use a populated LOCAL
>namespace on my machine which mirrors the Easynet.  I update every Sunday
>night.  The procedure is in this conference, note 2135.
    
Hmmm... I haven't had any form of local database on my systems for 3 years.
And other than the corporate DECdns collapse when V1 was upgraded to V2
last year, we really don't have any name translation issues.  I guess we're
just lucky...
    
--Ron
3852.4DAVIDF::FOXDavid B. Fox -- DTN 285-2091Fri Jan 31 1997 10:1323
Re: .3

Ron, we've had some difficulties, although not recently, here in NIO.  I use
LOCAL as my backup just in case.  I always go to the DEC namespace first.

Re: .2

I'll assume that your node is on the network regularly.  What you can do is to
re-run NET$CONFIGURE and select option 2 to rename your node.  It will ask you
to enter the director services you want.  I use DECdns, DOMAIN, and LOCAL.  If
we're talking about GRUFFY, your DECdns FULLNAME is DEC:.bxb.gruffy.  Your LOCAL
FULLNAME can be what you desire.  If you were to load it from Easynet data, your
nodename would be LOCAL:.bxb.gruffy.  DOMAIN is only used if you have a TCP/IP
stack on your system and want the DECnet Over TCP/IP functionality.  If so, that
name would be whatever your node name is for TCP/IP.

You don't have to have all three but DECdns OR LOCAL must be first in the list.

Once you've done that, you'll "never" have to worry about updating your node
database as you'll always, barring a DECdns problem, have the latest Easynet
information available to you.  Makes management a little easier.

	David
3852.5DECdns attemptGRUFFY::ZAHORARob ZahoraFri Jan 31 1997 11:24179
    Thanks for the suggestion on DECdns.  Unfortunately, my attempt to make
    the connection appears to have been unsuccessful.  What follows is the
    log of the session.  Any thoughts as to what I did wrong?
    
    
    * Enter the directory services to use on the system  [LOCAL] : local,DECdns
    * Enter the full name for directory service LOCAL [LOCAL:.GRUFFY] :
    * Enter the full name for directory service DECDNS        : DEC:.bxb.gruffy
    * What is the synonym name for this node?           [GRUFFY] :
    
    sys$manager:net$dns_clerk_startup.ncl changed to use the new default
    namespace.
    
    Your default namespace nickname is DEC.
    
    Your default namespace NSCTS is
    AA-00-04-00-DE-11-A0-AA-F9-6F-56-DE-8E-00.
    
    Node 0 DNS Clerk
    at 1997-01-31-11:09:40.274-05:00I0.233
    
    
    
    Node 0 DNS Clerk
    at 1997-01-31-11:09:40.589-05:00I0.233
    
    
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-FLUSHCACHE, flushing selected cache entries
    
    Node 0
    at 1997-01-31-11:09:44.129-05:00I0.233
    
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-NODERENAMED, node successfully renamed to
    LOCAL:.GRUFFY
    
    Node 0 Session Control
    at 1997-01-31-11:09:44.920-05:00I0.234
    
    
    Node 0 Session Control
    at 1997-01-31-11:09:44.928-05:00I0.234
    
    
    Node 0 Session Control
    at 1997-01-31-11:09:44.931-05:00I0.234
    
    
    Node 0 Session Control
    at 1997-01-31-11:09:44.934-05:00I0.234
    
    
    Node 0 Session Control
    at 1997-01-31-11:09:45.000-05:00I0.234
    
    Characteristics
    
        Maintain Backward Soft Links      = True
    
                                    SHOW
                               DIRECTORY  DEC:.bxb
                                      AT  31-JAN-1997:11:09:45
                                 dns$cts =
    Error on entity: DEC:.bxb
    %DNS-E-NOCOMMUNICATION, Unable to communicate with any DECdns server
    
    
    
    **************************************************************************
                                     WARNING
      NET$CONFIGURE.COM cannot access the DEC: namespace, either because
      the namespace is not available at the moment, your node does
      not have proper access to the namespace, or because the namespace
      you are using is new and the directories have not been created yet.
      Therefore, the DECNET_REGISTER tool cannot attempt to look up or
      register your node into the DEC: namespace.
    
      When the problem is rectified, please use the DECNET_REGISTER import
      file to register your node into the DEC: namespace.
    
    ***************************************************************************
    
    
    Directory Service: Local name file
    
    Node name:         LOCAL:.GRUFFY
    Phase IV synonym:  GRUFFY
    
    Address tower protocol and selector values:
      Session:   DNA_SessionControlV2 (SC2)
                 00 13
      Transport: DNA_NSP (NSP)
                 (no selector value)
      Routing:   DNA_OSInetwork (CLNS)
                 49::00-1D:AA-00-04-00-56-74:20 (29.86)
    
    
    Number of nodes reported on:  1
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-NODEISREG, node is already registered in the LOCAL
    directory service
    %RENAME-I-RENAMED,
    SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]DECNET_REGISTER_IMPORT_FILE_GRUFFY.TXT;1
    renamed to
    SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]DECNET_REGISTER_IMPORT_FILE_GRUFFY.TXT-OLD;1
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-IMPORTFILECREATED, created the DECNET_REGISTER import
    file
    
        
    **********************************************************************
                                     WARNING
    
         This node could not be registered in one or more of the directory
         services you have chosen.  When this procedure completes you or
         your network manager will have to manually register this node in the
         directory service(s) for which the error occurred.  See the 
         DECnet-Plus Installation and Configuration guide for more details, 
         or contact your network manager.
    
         Once the problem has been rectified, you or your namespace manager
         can use the following DECNET_REGISTER command(s) to register your node
         in the appropriate directory service(s):
    
            For the DECdns directory service:
            DECNET_REGISTER IMPORT DIRECTORY DECDNS FILE -
                    SYS$MANAGER:DECNET_REGISTER_IMPORT_FILE_GRUFFY.TXT
    
         Once the node has been successfully registered in the appropriate
         directory service(s), invoke option 2 of NET$CONFIGURE.COM (Change
         node name/namespace name) to complete the node's network configuration
         and startup.
    
        
    **********************************************************************
    
            Summary of Configuration
    
     Node Information:
    
            Node Type:              ENDNODE
            Directory Services Chosen:      LOCAL,DECDNS
            Primary Directory Service:      LOCAL
            DECdns Full name:       DEC:.bxb.gruffy
            Local Full name:        LOCAL:.GRUFFY
            Node Synonym:           GRUFFY
            Phase IV Address:       29.86
            Phase IV Prefix:        49::
            Autoconfiguration of Network Addresses: Enabled
            Session Control Address Update Interval:        10       
            Routing ESHello Timer:  600
    
     Device Information:
    
            Device: ESA (DESVA):
                    Data Link name: SVA-0
                    Routing Circuit Name:   SVA-0
    
     Transport Information:
    
            NSP Transport:                    Configured
               Maximum number of logical links:     200
               Maximum Transmit and Receive Window: 20
               Maximum Receive Buffers:             4000
    
            OSI Transport:                    Configured
               Maximum number of logical links:     200
               Maximum Transmit and Receive Window: 20
               Maximum Receive Buffers:             4000
    
            Congestion Avoidance Disabled
    
     Event Dispatcher Configuration:
    
            Sinks:            local_sink
            Outbound Streams: local_stream
            Phase IV Relay:   Enabled
    
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-MODCHECKSUM, checksumming NCL management scripts
    modified by NET$CONFIGURE
    %NET$CONFIGURE-I-CONFIGCOMPLETED, DECnet-Plus for OpenVMS configuration
    completed
3852.6Don't dispair...DAVIDF::FOXDavid B. Fox -- DTN 285-2091Mon Feb 03 1997 08:4716
Rob,
	I think you're ok.  Since GRUFFY is already registered in the DEC
namespace you're all set.  I get errors like that a lot trying to get at the NIO
part of the namespace!

	What you might want to consider doing is flip your namespace precedence
from LOCAL, DECdns to DECdns, LOCAL.  In the later, the LOCAL namespace becomes
your backup namespace when DECdns is unavailable, OR you define nodes in your
LOCAL namespace that are not registered in the DEC namespace.

	Another thing you should probably do if you haven't already is to reboot
GRUFFY to insure that the changes are active.  There are some things that don't
take effect immediately.  When doing something major like playing with your
naming services I like to reboot.

	David