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Conference decwet::networker

Title:NetWorker
Notice:kits - 12-14, problem reporting - 41.*, basics 1-100
Moderator:DECWET::RANDALL.com::lenox
Created:Thu Oct 10 1996
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:750
Total number of notes:3361

628.0. "Doc nit, type field not documented" by SANITY::LEMONS (And we thank you for your support.) Sun Apr 27 1997 07:26

    Hi
    
    The 'NetWorker Administrator's Guide UNIX Version AA-QH5CB-TE' (as well
    as the AA-QH5CC-TE version included in the V4.2C and V4.3 kits) does
    not show the (from memory here) type field on the client setup example
    screen, nor does it explain this field in the text.
    
    In NetWorker Server for Digital UNIX V4.2+, this field has these
    options:
    
    o PC
    o workstation
    o cluster service ??
    o cluster member  ??
    
    1.  Please add documentation for these fields to the Administrator's
    manual.
    
    2.  Where is NetWorker's support for TruCluster documented?  If nowhere
    currently, may I propose a chapter in the Addendum?  This is an
    increasingly important part of customer's stable of systems, and, due
    to its complexity, a hard one to understand.  Several well-chosen words
    in a TruCluster summary chapter in the Addendum would go a long way to
    making backing up and restoring this environment a comfortable
    experience.
    
    Thanks!
    tl
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628.1BACHUS::DEVOSManu Devos NSIS Brussels 856-7539Sun Apr 27 1997 10:276
    Is it not Sunday in Hudson MA ?  :-)
    
    There is a few explanations in the Release notes but I am supporting
    your query. We need more explanations.
    
    Manu.
628.2SANITY::LEMONSAnd we thank you for your support.Mon Apr 28 1997 15:193
    The 'Machine type' field is not in the online help, either.
    
    tl
628.3DECWET::ONOSoftware doesn't break-it comes brokenMon Apr 28 1997 15:473
These fields aren't documented because the use of these fields 
may change, and the meaning of the contents, are subject to 
change.
628.4SANITY::LEMONSAnd we thank you for your support.Mon Apr 28 1997 19:426
    Hmm.  But the filed itself should, at least be documented, right?  And
    while I understand that the contents may change, shouldn't the four
    values that are currently be supported be explained?
    
    Thanks!
    tl
628.5SANITY::LEMONSAnd we thank you for your support.Mon Apr 28 1997 20:1611
    Well, this is getting spooky.  NetWorker support for TruCluster is so
    poorly documented, it is almost invisible!  Except for seeing two
    cluster thingees in the Client Machine Type box in nwadmin, you'd never
    know it was there.  Further, I dir a DIR/TITLE=clust in this notes
    file, and none of the notes talked about how to use this functionality.
    
    Would someone be willing to dash off a couple of paragraphs, and add it
    here is a reply to the UNIX cluster note?
    
    Thanks!
    tl
628.6forwarded to documentationDECWET::CARRUTHERSLife gets easier when you realize you can't have everything.Tue Apr 29 1997 10:444
I have forwarded this string to the NetWorker documentation 
team (1 person!).  As plans are made for new features and 
releases I promise to keep this in mind and urge 
some action on the team's part.
628.7SANITY::LEMONSAnd we thank you for your support.Tue Apr 29 1997 11:1512
    Thanks for doing this.  I do appreciate it, as I know you are all very
    busy.  That said, any hints at all on how to use NetWorker's TruCluster
    support?  I can sorta guess what the machine types of 'Cluster Host'
    and 'Cluster Service' are for.  If I have nodes 'foo' and 'bar', they
    offer services 'moe', 'larry' and 'curley', then I'd add five clients:
    'foo' and 'bar' as 'cluster host', and 'moe', 'larry' and 'curley' as
    'cluster services'.  Right?
    
    Are there any gotchas I need to know about?
    
    Thanks!
    tl
628.8DECWET::FARLEEInsufficient Virtual um...er....Tue Apr 29 1997 11:2327
The Machine Type field is used by the Digital server for licensing
purposes.  Unless the machine being set up as a client is an old
version, or a non-NT PC, the field is set automatically by the server.

What happens is:
The server sends a query to the client, and determines from it what type of
client it is.  Currently the options are:

PC:  A DOS/Windows/Win95/NT Workstation machine, requiring the DECNSR-NET-PC 
	license.

Workstation:  This is generally the "everything else" bucket, and corresponds
		to the DECNSR-NET-CLNT license.

Cluster Host:  This is a system in an active ASE configuration, requiring
		one of the DECNSR-CLUST-CLNTx licenses.

Cluster Service:  This is a client corresponding to an ASE service, not to a 
			physical node.  We do not charge a license for these.

Note that if you change the value of the Machine Type field, we will re-query
the client, and override your input with what the client says it is.  This is
to keep customers honest about which license each client requires.

For more clusters stuff, also search for "ASE".

Kevin
628.9SANITY::LEMONSAnd we thank you for your support.Tue Apr 29 1997 13:588
    Hi Kevin
    
    Thanks very much for taking the time to write this.  This is exactly
    what I needed, and will save me trial-and-error time as I install.
    
    I'll also 'dir/title=ase'; thanks for the suggestion.
    
    tl