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Conference decwet::networker

Title:NetWorker
Notice:kits - 12-14, problem reporting - 41.*, basics 1-100
Moderator:DECWET::RANDALL.com::lenox
Created:Thu Oct 10 1996
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:750
Total number of notes:3361

553.0. "Novell SFT3 X Client Networker !!" by VAXRIO::63222::Manoel () Fri Apr 04 1997 06:41

	Hi, folks
	
	I got Legato's Networker Client for Netware from 
ftp://ftp.zso.dec.com/pub/networker/kits/ClientKits/CPIII.NetWare.Clients
/cpiiiv41.exe
	Sent it to one of our customers that bought it, but he said that
his Novell system just hangs or rebooted while trying to start it.
	I tryied to send cpiiiv41.tar and he copied all the files via
ftp to the Novell machine, but this time dispite doesn't hanging any
more the client doesn't recognize the server.
	So, only today he said to me that his Novell is a little bit
different it is called SFT3.
	Does someone know if there is any important information about
installing this product in this kind of Novell system ?
	Thanks in advance for any help.
	Regards.


					Manoel F. Abreu Neto (MCS/DE@Rio)

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553.11 problem - no docs...DECWET::EVANSNSR EngineeringFri Apr 04 1997 10:039
we get the binaries from legato, but the hardcopy docs are sealed into
 the CDROM packet... pretty hard to make a copy to post on the web...

I suggest your customer get the real McCoy. call us when/if there are
 problems.

PS: these packages are shrink wrapped direct from Legato. Digital has an
 agreement to resell them, and we support them, when customers buy them from
 Digital (usually, by calling Legato).
553.2About the docs...VAXRIO::63222::ManoelFri Apr 04 1997 14:2014
	Hi, Evans

	This customer bought the product from us and had no contact with
Legato. I don't understand what does it mean when you said to get the 
docs from real Mac Coy.
	I don't know why this problem appear for us here in CSC only
a week ago, but the customer said that they are waiting more than six 
monthes for a solution, at least a managing problem of ours.
	Can't you point me a way to these docs ?
	Thanks.

				Manoel F. Abreu Neto (MCS/DEC@Rio)

553.3NETCAD::STEFANIFDDI Adapters R UsSun Apr 06 1997 21:3218
>>	So, only today he said to me that his Novell is a little bit
>>different it is called SFT3.

NetWare SFT III is a different beast.  Since NetWare 4.10, it's been built
into the OS, but you need a separate license to enable it.  Basically, it's a
NetWare server environment where you have two identical systems working as one. 
The Primary server handles all of the accesses and keeps the Secondary server
mirrored should the primary go down.  There's a lot more complexity in terms of
setup and HW, but that's the gist of it.

If you want to know more on this product, look for SFT III-related notes in
NOTED::NETWARE or go to Novell's WWW page (http://www.novell.com/)

Suffice it to say that without knowing anything about Legato's NetWare client
for SFT III, I can safely suggest that SFT III is a different NetWare
environment and would probably not behave the same as a standalone server.

/l
553.4DECWET::CARRUTHERSLife gets easier when you realize you can't have everything.Mon Apr 07 1997 09:4715
>>	This customer bought the product from us and had no contact with
>>Legato. I don't understand what does it mean when you said to get the 
>>docs from real Mac Coy.

I believe, Bruce is trying to tell you that the customer should be
using the shrink wrapped package binaries and documentation for
this client.

If the customer bought these from Digital and does not have them
(after 6 months?!?) then you need to help resolve that problem
through the proper channels.  The NetWorker team can't help with product
delivery since we don't have extra docs or packages.


553.5More detail.VAXRIO::63222::ManoelThu Apr 10 1997 12:55235
        Hi,

        About the proper docs I don't know how to contact Legato about
this, while I'm here in Rio (Brazil) it might be a little complicated.
        Any way I looked some configuration information in Novell web
site, and sent to the customer for him to verify some parameters to see
if some correction in any Novell parameter could solve the problem.
        Just to remember the problem, after installing Client Networker
his Novell machine hangs and has to be rebboted.
        He said that verified those parameters and everything seemed all
right, and sent me some configuration data.
        I'll post the configuration data he sent me below just in case
some one could point me something wrong.
        Thanks in advance for any help or pointer.

        
                                Manoel F. Abreu Neto (MCS/DEC@Rio)
*************************************************************************
Msauto.ncf
#Setting of parameters
set Time Zone = EST5EDT
set Daylight Savings Time Offset = 1:00:00
set Start Of Daylight Savings Time = (APRIL SUNDAY FIRST  2:00:00 AM)
set End Of Daylight Savings Time = (OCTOBER SUNDAY LAST  2:00:00 AM)
set Default Time Server Type = SINGLE
set Bindery Context = OU=DIMINF.O=INPI;OU=CEDIN.O=INPI;OU=DIRPA.O=INPI
set upgrade low priority threads = on
msengine name DIMINF-1
msengine ipx internal net A001

##BeGiN## NetWare NLMs required by NetWorker ###
### Do NOT change anything between marks, including marks.
load streams
load clib
load tli
load ipxs
load spxs
##EnD## NetWare NLMs required by NetWorker ###

load conlog  maximum=100

#tcpip start
LOAD TCPIP FORWARD=NO
BIND IP MSENGINE ADDR=128.100.146.1

#NetWare SQL
LOAD BTRIEVE -f=500 -h=2400 -l=20 -t=160 -u=0 -s=200 -m=256 -c -p=4096
LOAD BSPXCOM -d=8192 -s=100 -w=10
LOAD SSQL  -w=8192 -z=30 -j=8 -i=1 -x=c:\
LOAD SSPXCOM  -d=8192 -s=50 -w=30
load sqlmon

#BOOTP Server for LANWorkGroup
load bootpd

#Mounting four volumes
mount all

#Enabling the backup system SBACKUP
load TSA410
load TSANDS
#Print server start
load PSERVER PS_DIMINF

load monitor

#Antivirus start
LOAD SYS:\SYSTEM\NETSHLD\NETSHLD.NLM DEFAULT
###    Until here everything works fine
#NSR backup
search add SYS:\nsr\BIN
# SYS:SYSTEM\NETWORKER.NCF
# On disk1/4_10_00
# For starting up NetWorker on NetWare 4.1x
load nwstart -A -G -- -C
*************************************************************************
        These are the Novell versions

3CBOOT   NLM      8604 02/11/92    9:22
A3112    NLM     12425 29/03/94   13:49
ADSP     NLM     74161 19/10/94   14:49
AFTER311 NLM       446 21/10/94   12:17
AIO      NLM     83033 16/08/96    2:32
AIOCOMX  NLM     17537 16/08/96    2:32
APPLETLK NLM    344942 19/10/94   14:46
ATCFG    NLM    137494 19/10/94   13:16
ATCON    NLM    109673 19/10/94   14:52
ATFLT    NLM       974 19/10/94   14:50
AURP     NLM     80691 19/10/94   14:57
BCASTLIB NLM       885 18/02/94   13:00
BDIRECT  NLM     15609 26/01/93   15:06
BDROUTER NLM     21484 03/11/94   17:06
BOOTPD   NLM     15663 18/02/94   13:00
BOOTPFD  NLM      5457 18/02/94   13:00
BOOTPFWD NLM      7979 18/10/94   16:51
BREBUILD NLM     35000 19/11/94   12:26
BRIDGE   NLM     65597 21/10/94   16:49
BROUTER  NLM     20635 18/11/94    9:45
BSETUP   NLM     72329 07/01/93   11:04
BSPXCOM  NLM     22524 18/11/94    9:00
BSPXSTUB NLM      1342 18/11/94    9:10
BTIMSG   NLM     40033 18/11/94    8:51
BTRIEVE  NLM    214687 21/11/94   19:43
BTRMON   NLM     75022 28/01/93   14:25
BTRVSTUB NLM       950 27/08/93   10:38
BUTIL    NLM    200411 25/10/93   17:22
CDROM    NLM    113269 15/11/94   15:31
CLIB     NLM    217743 15/04/96   14:35
CONLOG   NLM     10659 19/10/94   14:03
CONVINET NLM    140863 19/10/94   13:25
CSLCNVRT NLM     18037 19/10/94    9:41
CSLSTUB  NLM      3122 19/10/94    9:40
DS       NLM    349646 03/03/95   21:11
DSAPI    NLM     85032 03/04/95   12:12
DSI      NLM     51238 02/11/94   13:41
DSMERGE  NLM     63590 19/10/94    9:02
DSREPAIR NLM    127010 31/10/94   16:44
DSVIEW   NLM     20000 29/03/96   11:44
EDIT     NLM      5105 21/10/94    7:56
ETHERTSM NLM      9278 17/10/94   10:11
FDDITSM  NLM      8966 17/10/94   10:43
FILTCFG  NLM    277927 19/10/94   16:21
FILTCONV NLM     68833 19/10/94   16:26
FILTSRV  NLM     46670 19/10/94   16:24
GENCFG   NLM     12736 19/10/94   12:56
HCSS     NLM      4009 20/10/94   12:53
HCSSERR  NLM     25832 20/10/94    9:51
HCSSUTIL NLM      4160 20/10/94   10:05
HCSS_IR  NLM      2645 20/10/94   11:56
HCSS_SM  NLM     73540 20/10/94   10:39
HPSSDIAG NLM    203716 11/02/94   15:33
ICMD     NLM     13798 03/11/94   15:35
IIOA     NLM     21699 21/10/94    8:45
IMPEXP   NLM     11819 20/10/94   12:47
IMSA     NLM      7037 21/10/94    8:47
INETCFG  NLM    329710 04/11/94   10:44
INETLIB  NLM     34199 19/10/94   13:26
INSTALL  NLM    301725 27/10/94    9:59
IOIPC    NLM     40297 21/10/94    9:14
IPCONFIG NLM     11766 18/10/94   16:40
IPFLT    NLM       984 18/10/94   16:52
IPXCFG   NLM    266048 19/10/94   13:02
IPXCON   NLM    345530 19/10/94   22:05
IPXFLT   NLM     15699 19/10/94   22:06
IPXPING  NLM     34846 19/10/94   22:15
IPXRTR   NLM    310292 19/10/94   21:46
IPXRTRNM NLM     50478 19/10/94   21:52
IPXS     NLM     10134 20/10/94   13:53
ISSLIB   NLM      5013 20/10/94   13:27
KDECDAEM NLM     24185 20/10/94   12:01
KEYB     NLM     41759 21/10/94    9:21
LLC8022  NLM     35883 02/11/94   16:29
LWGCON   NLM     24900 18/02/94   13:00
LWGIO    NLM     27635 18/02/94   13:00
MATHLIB  NLM      9154 15/04/96   11:22
MATHLIBC NLM     11730 15/04/96   11:22
MONITOR  NLM     65116 21/10/94    8:17
MSIPC    NLM     16425 21/10/94    8:56
MSM      NLM     20263 23/08/94   14:33
NDBMON   NLM     93783 22/04/92   10:54
NDBSETUP NLM     78862 04/05/92   10:45
NETDB    NLM     26501 10/09/93   12:01
NETSYNC4 NLM     53087 21/10/94   12:25
NFSFIX   NLM       666 14/06/93   11:42
NFSSHIM  NLM      5003 22/08/94   11:10
NGMDEINS NLM    153848 17/08/94   10:36
NPAMS    NLM     58874 20/10/94   11:20
NPRINTER NLM     38014 20/10/94   15:02
NSSPXCOM NLM     14616 14/04/92   13:48
NSWILDFX NLM      2053 09/10/95   13:08
NUT      NLM     24612 17/10/94   14:13
NWPA     NLM     67179 20/10/94   11:18
NWPALOAD NLM      2728 21/10/94    7:52
NWPSRV   NLM     93683 20/10/94   12:46
NWPSRV3X NLM    199048 20/10/94   12:49
NWSNUT   NLM     54575 17/10/94   14:14
NWSQL    NLM    426917 12/05/92   14:08
PARSER   NLM      7380 21/10/94   16:50
PCONFIG  NLM     15934 26/12/95    9:18
PING     NLM     41198 18/10/94   16:50
PKERNEL  NLM    122164 26/07/95   17:46
PM410    NLM     25401 22/01/96    9:41
PSERVER  NLM     66309 20/10/94   15:46
PUPGRADE NLM     15552 20/10/94   15:08
P_UNINST NLM     72473 26/12/95    9:18
REGISTER NLM     30600 18/10/94    8:57
REMOTE   NLM     35658 20/10/94   14:36
RIUTIL   NLM     54434 17/11/94   15:35
ROUTE    NLM      5027 22/06/94   10:43
RPCBSTUB NLM       697 18/02/94   13:00
RPL      NLM      6270 22/09/94   12:44
RS232    NLM     51415 21/10/94    7:52
RSPAWN   NLM     22839 19/10/94   14:02
RSPX     NLM     31233 20/10/94   14:43
RSPXSTUB NLM      1883 18/11/94    9:10
RTDM     NLM     10583 21/10/94    8:23
RXNETTSM NLM      6321 26/09/94   10:46
SBACKUP  NLM    246188 21/10/94    8:21
SCHDELAY NLM      1599 01/02/93    8:57
SERVMAN  NLM     34701 28/10/94   12:01
SMDR     NLM     57075 20/03/97   15:12
SMSDI    NLM    133719 21/10/94    7:59
SNMP     NLM     85808 19/10/94   14:24
SNMPLOG  NLM     13477 19/10/94   14:24
SPXCONFG NLM      5101 20/10/94   13:49
SPXS     NLM     36102 20/10/94   14:14
SQLMON   NLM    123222 20/11/94   16:46
SQLSETUP NLM    139339 17/11/94   15:24
SQLUTIL  NLM     60896 19/11/94   16:48
SRTCFG   NLM     12639 19/10/94   12:57
SSPXCOM  NLM     23235 18/11/94    9:04
SSQL     NLM    461594 21/11/94    8:57
STREAMS  NLM     63236 20/10/94   13:33
TCPCFG   NLM    170851 19/10/94   12:53
TCPCON   NLM    222424 18/10/94   16:49
TCPIP    NLM    393157 08/11/94   10:07
TIMESYNC NLM     18788 14/10/94   15:12
TLI      NLM     24751 20/10/94   13:41
TOKENTSM NLM      9441 17/10/94   10:13
TPING    NLM      4771 18/10/94   16:50
TSA311   NLM    130311 21/10/94   10:36
TSA312   NLM    130592 21/10/94   10:36
TSA400   NLM    132458 21/10/94   10:35
TSA410   NLM    133937 01/03/96   17:16
TSADOS   NLM     85808 21/10/94    9:03
TSANDS   NLM     78722 03/11/95   15:07
TSAPROXY NLM      9916 21/10/94    8:21
TUI      NLM     43415 19/10/94   12:13
UINSTALL NLM     33972 21/10/94   11:31
UPS      NLM      8547 21/10/94   11:29
VREPAIR  NLM     51690 20/10/94   14:43
V_MAC    NLM     12264 20/10/94   14:44
V_NFS    NLM      9621 30/09/94   16:03
V_OS2    NLM     13164 20/10/94   14:44
WSMAN    NLM     14378 21/10/94    8:54
553.6some problem specificsDECWET::CARRUTHERSLife gets easier when you realize you can't have everything.Thu Apr 10 1997 17:4735
I asked some questions of Manoel about this problem.  His answers
are supplied below each question (see >>>).


1.  What version of the client kit is your customer using?

There is some confusion from your notes concerning the NetWorker client
kit your customer is using.  If your customer bought the client kit
from Digital, why did you need to access our ftp area for your customer?

>>>The Digital Unix system is 4.0a
   The Networker Server is 4.2b
   The Client Networker for Novell 4.1 is 4.1
   Why I had to get the .exe file to send to the customer is a logistic
    fail, best answer only my manager could give.

2.  What is the exact version of Netware that your customer is running?

>>> See first answer.

3.  There is usually a NSR support program on the clients which
    can provide basic information for the support personnel.  
    This program might be called "nsrsup.bat".  Please run that program 
    and post the output.

>>> I'll talk to the customer and verify this.

4.  In the NetWorker Client Kit for Novell, there is a release
    notes supplement.  On the last pages of that supplement there
    is a procedure for users to collect information after system
    crashes for debug purposes.  After the next Netware crash have 
    your customer follow those steps exactly.

>>> I'll talk to the customer and verify this.
    
553.7Answer for questions 3 and 4.VAXRIO::63222::ManoelFri Apr 11 1997 12:405
	About questions number 3 and 4, unfortunatly there are none of 
the files mentioned in the kit I sent to the customer.

MFAN(MCS/DEC@Rio)
553.8DECWET::RANDALLFri Apr 11 1997 13:476
Legato has released a patch for the Novel SFTIII kit.  You might
want to give this a shot.  

http://www.legato.com/support/bulletins/275.html

-- Rich Randall
553.9also see note 514 for more about this problemDECWET::CARRUTHERSLife gets easier when you realize you can't have everything.Fri Apr 11 1997 14:2415
Manoel emailed me the following information:
----------------------------------------------

	Hi,

	Just to add a little bit more information.
	Note 514 is another problem that happened in the same customer while
trying to install Legato's Networker Client, the difference was that at the
first time I sent to the customer a tar file, wich contents he copied via ftp
to the SFT III (Novell) machine, and then happens the other problem mentioned
in 514.
	Thanks for your time.
	Best regards.

				Manoel F. Abreu Neto (MCS/DEC@Rio)