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Conference decwet::networker

Title:NetWorker
Notice:kits - 12-14, problem reporting - 41.*, basics 1-100
Moderator:DECWET::RANDALL.com::lenox
Created:Thu Oct 10 1996
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:750
Total number of notes:3361

513.0. "OSF patch to run 4.2C server" by NETRIX::"[email protected]" (Jason Wold) Thu Mar 20 1997 17:12

In the release notes it says to get the patch from

http://www.service.digital.com/html/patch_main.html

Has anyone successfully navigated that ugly mess and found the correct
patch?  Do I need a special account to access patches there?  

I managed to find a cool internal site for patches at

http://www-unix.evt.dec.com/WWW_evt_open_system/digital_unix/digital_unix.html

but the patches for DUNIX 4.0b only go up to 67 and I need 70.01!!

Any way this patch could be put up on the networker home page?

Sigh,
Jason
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513.1DECWET::CARRUTHERSLife gets easier when you realize you can't have everything.Fri Mar 21 1997 08:5810
Thanks for opening this topic for us.  We will post information
about the DIGITAL UNIX patches for NetWorker 4.2C here as it
becomes available.

Right now, you are a little ahead of us.  To the best of our
knowledge the official DIGITAL UNIX patches are not yet available
on the DIGITAL patch Web site -- but that is OK, since NetWorker V4.2C 
is not YET shipping.

 
513.2V4.2C required OS patch availabliltyDECWET::SDYLook out!!..Support Rookie sez...Sat Mar 22 1997 16:4114
The official OS patches are in review, it is expected that they will appear
on the specified web site in a week or so. 

We will NOT be placing the kernel patches on the NetWorker pages, or on our
local FTP area for 2 reasons:

   1. The UNIX Support Group (in charge of the patches) asked us not to (and
      they are God =)

   2. The patches are in very common areas, and subsequent patches may supercede
      the listed patches (quickly) and the best place to check that would be
      the patch website (we don't have the resources to keep up with them).

513.3WRKSYS::ALONGIThu Apr 10 1997 07:338
I got 4.2C yesterday so I went to find that patch at

http://www.service.digital.com/html/patch_main.html

but I can't find it.. does anyone know where I can get it,

thanks
doreen
513.4Patches may be delayedDECWET::SDYLook out!!..Support Rookie sez...Thu Apr 10 1997 12:148
We are expecting the patches to appear shortly, please be patient.

The UESG had a problem generating the setld patch kits, the initial patches will
be a (probably messy) manual installation and were submitted to TIMA earlier
this week.

steve.
513.5V4.2C OSF patches are now availableDECWET::SDYLook out!!..Support Rookie sez...Fri Apr 11 1997 12:4916
The patches are located on:

   ftp://ftp.service.digital.com/public/Digital_UNIX/

in their respective O/S version directory. They are named as follows:

   DU 4.0      duv40networker-bl5er

   DU 4.0a     duv40anetworker-bl5er

   DU 4.0b     duv40bnetworker-bl5er

These are manual install versions of the patches -- we expect the setld
versions to appear (under patch IDs specified in the Release Notes) shortly.

steve.
513.6Problems building vmunix with the patch installedNNTPD::"[email protected]"Mikael Bringh, Unix-support, TSC, SwedenTue Apr 15 1997 00:5956

Something seems to be missing, a complete h-file or part of one.
Or someone forgot to remove a variable from std_kern.mod.


*** PERFORMING KERNEL BUILD ***
        Working....Mon Apr 14 14:10:56 MET DST 1997
        Working....Mon Apr 14 14:12:58 MET DST 1997
        Working....Mon Apr 14 14:15:00 MET DST 1997

*** WARNING ***
An error has occurred during system configuration.  A partial listing
.
.
.
ld:
Error: Undefined:
vm_page_free_swap
*** Exit 1 (ignored)


Also, there is a file in the kit, advfs.mod, that is not in the README.

> ls -1 ./patches
DUV40BNetWorker-BL5ER.txt
advfs.mod
arch_alpha.mod
arch_alphapmap.mod
audit_tool
cam.mod
ccfg.h
fcntl.h
fcntl1.h
ffm_fs.mod
fs_proto.h
inode.h
lockinfo.c
presto.mod
re_xcr.mod
std_kern.mod
ufs.mod
vfs.mod
vfs_conf.c
> grep vm_page_free_swap *
> nm std_kern.mod | grep vm_page_free_swap
vm_page_free_swap                | 0000000000000004 | U | 0000000000000000

Also see note 9486, TURRIS::DIGITAL_UNIX

Regards,

Mikael Bringh
Unix-support, TSC, Sweden

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513.7manual installs aren't as easy as they should be...DECWET::SDYLook out!!..Support Rookie sez...Tue Apr 15 1997 12:3525
re: -.1

sorry that these are painful, we're really waiting for the setld versions that
real users would expect. Until then, bear with us.


Mikael> Also, there is a file in the kit, advfs.mod, that is not in the README.

actually DUV40BNetWorker-BL5ER.txt has advfs.mod listed as being in: 

   Patch 70.01 (OSF410-400176-1) contains the following inventory:
   It should be installed if the OSFADVFSBIN410 subset is installed on your    
   system.
      /sys/BINARY/advfs.mod           		subset OSFADVFSBIN410
      CHECKSUM: 16064   1130

which is misleading, OSFADVFSBIN410 is normally installed as part of the base
OS so advfs.mod from the patch kit should be manually installed.

I'm going to try (again) the patch on a vanilla V4.0B system, it would help if
you knew, if there were any other patches installed on the system on which you
are trying this.

steve.

513.8some progress...but not enoughDECWET::SDYLook out!!..Support Rookie sez...Tue Apr 15 1997 14:599
re: -.2

have duplicated the vm_page_free_swap undefined on a vanilla V4.0B system,
will be looking into the problem, have already sent a summary to the UESG 
contact. Odd though, the pre-release engineering patch didn't have this problem.

stay tuned (and cross your fingers)

steve.
513.9good newsDECWET::SDYLook out!!..Support Rookie sez...Tue Apr 15 1997 16:4517
The UESG has come through with flying colors -- there should be new patch kits
appearing soon on the internet site 

 ftp://ftp.service.digital.com/public/Digital_UNIX/

under the following names:

   DU 4.0    duv40networker-bl5er-1
   DU 4.0a   duv40anetworker-bl5er-1   
   DU 4.0b   duv40bnetworker-bl5er-1

this should fix the V4.0B vm_page_free_swap problem.

I'll test it when it gets there =)

steve.
513.10Now it works fineNNTPD::"[email protected]"Mikael Bringh, Unix-support, TSC, SwedenThu Apr 17 1997 01:085
No problems building a new vmunix with vm.mod added to the kit.

/Mikael
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513.11I checked them out too...DECWET::SDYLook out!!..Support Rookie sez...Thu Apr 17 1997 12:248
The new patches appear to work (and install!!) correctly on both DU V4.0A and
DU V4.0B (still looking for a DU4.0 machine)

Unfortunately it appears that the new patches haven't appeared on the FTP server
yet (for general distribution) I know the request has been made, so it should
be there RSN.

steve.
513.12they're there now...DECWET::SDYLook out!!..Support Rookie sez...Thu Apr 17 1997 12:335
I stand corrected, the "-1" patch kits have just appeared on the ftp site.

Have a good time.

steve.
513.13WhyKERNEL::BARRETTOTThu Apr 24 1997 10:4124
    Does the patch kit contained on the FTP site mentioned for V4.0B contain the
    patch for both 71.0 and 70.01 as documented in the NSR 4.2C release
    notes ?
    
    It would be a good idea to put a readme file on the following Web site
    mentioned in the release notes to ensure that customers undertstand the
    state of play.
      
    http://www.service.digital.com/html/patch_main.html 
    
     
    THE NSR V4.2C product has been released in the APRIL 1997 CD
    distribution. The CSC (Basingstoke, UK) had no idea of where to
    get the patch from or when the patch would be available.
    
    
    If the patches are not available and there is NO information on the 
    web site mentioned and the CSC has not been given details of how to 
    assist customers, then maybe the product should be put on Engineering
    hold.
    
    regards,
    Tony
    
513.14DECWET::SDYLook out!!..Support Rookie sez...Thu Apr 24 1997 11:5838
re: .13

    Does the patch kit contained on the FTP site mentioned for V4.0B contain the
    patch for both 71.0 and 70.01 as documented in the NSR 4.2C release
    notes ?

yes, it does, in fact you can just look at the readme online at the ftp site
before fetching the patch.

We don't have access to the www.service.digital ftp site, the general custom is
to have both the patch and readme available -- if you look through the ftp site
you'll see that in addition to the patch tar file, it has a checksum file, a
coverletter as well as the readme.

    THE NSR V4.2C product has been released in the APRIL 1997 CD
    distribution. The CSC (Basingstoke, UK) had no idea of where to
    get the patch from or when the patch would be available.

The release notes for V4.2C specify both the access and names of the patches
that are required. The only difference is that the manual patch names (BL5ER-1)
were released as an interim step while the UESG worked out it's setld creation
problems. When the (previously identified) setld patches are available they will
be placed on the ftp site and thhe BL5ER-1 patches removed.  This was done after
the LPCD went to press so the only other route was to post it in this notes
conference. 

Remember that we're talking about 3 separate groups who maintain ownership
rights, we (SMS NetWorker) are the customer of the patches, the UEG/UESG owns
creating/maintaining the patches, and yet another group owns the ftp site.

Regarding CSC training, we held a short session for our US Atlanta site,
unfortunately we don't know all of the contacts for the Non-US CSC sites (I hear
that there is 1 per country in Europe) I have an internal training page under
construction that I am willing to make available. If you are a CSC who needs
early access to materials, send me email ([email protected]) and I'll send you 
a pointer.

steve.