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Conference decwet::networker

Title:NetWorker
Notice:kits - 12-14, problem reporting - 41.*, basics 1-100
Moderator:DECWET::RANDALL.com::lenox
Created:Thu Oct 10 1996
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:750
Total number of notes:3361

504.0. "addition of UNIX clients - what do they buy?" by ODIXIE::PKNOWLES () Wed Mar 19 1997 07:53

    Customer is running NSR V3.0 and they currently have no client
    licenses.  They have a product from Legato and have been able to backup
    PC Clients to their Alpha 2100's (UNIX) running the NSR product.  They
    would now like to backup up their Digital UNIX clients.  I am confused
    on what they need to purchase in order to do this.
    
    Do they just need client licenses for the UNIX clients?  Do they need
    the Save Set Consolidation Server license product (the documentation
    says this is used where both the client and server are Digital UNIX
    systems but I'm not sure what this does as opposed to the Client
    license for the UNIX boxes)?  He also had a question about the optional
    media - do they need to purchase this?
    
    Thanks...
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504.1DECWET::ONOSoftware doesn't break-it comes brokenWed Mar 19 1997 09:054
Take a look at 44.1 re: licensing.  If you still have questions, 
post them here.

Wes
504.2Same question...can't reply to 44.1...NQOS01::tunnsrv_remote.alf.dec.com::CindyThu Mar 20 1997 06:4111
Well -

I tried your suggestion but you cannot reply to that note.  My questions still 
stands and yes, I had already read that note.  I would just quote the UNIX 
client license however the customer (and I) have a question on when you just 
sell the client and when you sell the Save Set Consolidation server license.  
The doucment says "in environemnts where both the client and server are 
Digital UNIX systems".  This is that environment and I want to make sure they 
have everything they need to back up their UNIX clients.

Thanks....
504.3DECWET::RWALKERRoger Walker - Media ChangersThu Mar 20 1997 07:123
	Save Set Consolidation is an add on feature that is only needed by
	some customers.  To add clients you just need enough client
	licenses on the server of the proper type as per the other note.  
504.4what does ssc do for you?NQOS01::tunnsrv_remote.alf.dec.com::CindyThu Mar 20 1997 08:193
What does save set consolidation do?  Why would a customer buy or need it?


504.5DECWET::LENOXPerpetual motion, that's my toddler!Thu Mar 20 1997 08:285
See topic 22 for a basic description of save set consolidation.

See topic 2 for a description of how this notes conference is
organized.
504.6part #'sNQOS01::tunnsrv_remote.alf.dec.com::CindyThu Mar 20 1997 08:3110
More questions...

SO.... what I need to sell them is (2) QL-XYXAL-3B (Unix Client License) and 
(1) QA-XYXAE-H8 (UNIX software media and documentation - there's also 
QA-054A*-** listed in the SPD for Digital UNIX Server and Add-on modules - 
which is the right one?).  The customer still has a question about the SSC 
and what it is to determine if he needs that or not, but if so, then 
QL-YULA9-AA is also needed.

right?
504.7DECWET::KOWALSKITime's not for savingThu Mar 20 1997 08:4724
SSC is a means of conserving network bandwidth at the
expense of server CPU cycles.  We hear that customers
are tending to use it to backup HSM systems because
an SSC backup of a client only involves 1 full backup,
EVER.  After the first full, the client only does
incremental backups, which makes it ideal for systems
with very large amounts of slowing changing data which
the customer does not want to have backup itself.

The "C" part of SSC is consolidation by the server of
the client's previous "full" backup and its incrementals
since that full into a new "full" backup.  The server does
this by writing out a new full backup saveset to a
volume by reading the previous full backup saveset volumes
and the incremental saveset volumes and combining the
data appropriately.

To get in one last detail, the server, in addition to
consolidating into a new full, can consolidate 
incrementals into a new level backup.  If you don't
know what a level backup is, you might want to have
a look at the product documentation.

Mark
504.8DECWET::ONOSoftware doesn't break-it comes brokenThu Mar 20 1997 09:3822
To backup Digital UNIX clients to an existing NetWorker server, 
you need two things:

1) NetWorker client licenses to load on the NetWorker *server*.  
   If the NetWorker server is Digital UNIX or NT Alpha, you
   purchase client licenses from Digital.  If the server is not a 
   Digital system, you purchase the client licenses from the 
   provider of the server software.

   From your description in .0, I believe that you have a Digital
   UNIX system running NetWorker, so the UNIX client licenses you 
   purchase are QL-XYXAL-3B.

2) NetWorker for Digital UNIX client software media.  There are 
   two ways to get this.  The client kit is on the Digital UNIX 
   Layered Products CD, QA-054AA-H8, or can be ordered separately 
   on the Digital Client Kit (DCK), QA-XYXAE-H8.  If you order the 
   DCK, you get hardcopy installation docs too.

Hope this helps,

Wes