Conference decwet::networker

If they want a part of the Registry recovered, that is under
REGISTRY: in the browse list.  Or am I missing something here?

and is backed and restored by NetWorker under
the pseudo-device name Registry:\

mark

Yes, I see SAM etc saved under REGISTRY but

In this system32\config directory there are lots of files,
logs and dat and others but they are not saved.

Gary
 

There is a documented way to back it up, etc...

If one starts recovering any old files, one gets an 
inconsistant Registry.  So one can't get to pick and
choose which files one recovers.

Does that clarify it for you?

Hmmm, I'm being thick today - and for that I apologize !

If I look in the config directory I can see a number of other files
including the event logs but when I go into my recover registry
I only see SAM, system, default, software and security - so how
would/should I save the evt (event logs) files.

And what about any other files that are there - one system has 
numerous logfiles in this directory. Is it that only the registry
files should be there and someone is doing something silly. But
that cannot be true because the event logs are there and not 
being saved.

Or am I just totally confused ?

Appreciate your help with this.

Gary

If you need to recover some part of a database,
you can choose to recover that part via the user
gui.  The recover will handle what files it
brings back and is responsible for making sure
that you are able to be in a consistant state
if you recover the data properly.

So if you choose to recover some part of the
Registry (SAM, security, etc...), the recover
will get the appropriate files that pertain
to that part of the database.

Make any more sense yet?

I assume your saying that the Event logs, for example, are part of the 
Database and therefore if I were more clued up on NT I would know which 
part to restore to get back old event logs. Okay got that !

So, going back to another server which has .log files in the config 
directory - are those .log files likely to be part of the database ?
I would not have thought so; how do I save those ? 

Gary

Event logs are informational and normally things are setup to be
purged from those logs regularly.  Users can save an event log
if they need it with the event viewer. There may be an api for
saving those files, but I'll have to check.  If there isn't an
api and only the event viewer knows how to save the files, then
nsr can't save those files (they are open files, i.e. simple
database files :).

The log files should be a part of the Registry...
The following isn't proof, but an explaination
of how one might surmise they are part of the
Registry.  For the files one knows are part of
the Registy, e.g. SAM, there is a corresponding
log file and those log files are being used
by another process (just try to copy them and
you won't be able to access them).  Don't try
this with various user log files, since they
won't be in use if the user is not logged in.

I'm getting there, I think - thanks for your patience.

I'll summarize what I think and you can either cheer coz I've got
it or sink down in your chair and sigh deeply ...   :-)

Networker does a skip on the config directory  as it knows 
this will be saved by the REGISTRY: spec.
The REGISTRY spec then goes saves those files that make up 
the database and if I as a dumb user should put another file
into the config directory (eg dumb.txt) that clearly has
nothing to do with anything the database then it does not
get saved ?!
And those goddamn log files I keep refering to
 are in fact probably 
part of the database. Gee I just gotta
 figure which part if someone 
really wants one of these recovered.

Close or no cigar ?

Gary

sounds close.  I actually don't know if the event log files
(i.e. *.evt files) should be backed up or not, that's what
I'm going to check on.

Does the person know what file they want recovered or were
they depending on looking at a list of files?  One can browse
in the REGISTRY: and possibly determine what part of the
Registry you need.  Have you followed some of the other notes
in this notes conference about when Terry Lemons had trouble
recovering part of the Registry (kinda touchy)?  
  

    Okay with your help and patience, and a little light reading at
    home this morning I believe I understand.
    
    Yes, I will have to revisit Terrys Notes regarding the recovery 
    of the REGISTRY:
    
    I would still be interested in knowing the situation regards the
    Event logs.
    
    But for now, I'm off to the Caymen Islands for a two week rest in
    the sun !
    
    Thanks for your help 
    
    Gary

Have a good time, the rat race will go on without you...

The event logs are not currently saved, I can check if it
is in the next release & submit such a request.

    Yes, please do.  The Event Logs contain valuable diagnostic and
    historical data that I do NOT want to have lost.  These really must be
    saved and restored by NetWorker.  Many programs, instead of writing
    separate log files, write events to the Event Logs, so not saving and
    restoring them has an impact on, potentially, many applications.
    
    Thanks!
    tl