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Conference decwet::networker

Title:NetWorker
Notice:kits - 12-14, problem reporting - 41.*, basics 1-100
Moderator:DECWET::RANDALL.com::lenox
Created:Thu Oct 10 1996
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:750
Total number of notes:3361

418.0. "save:Not enough space" by KERNEL::NICHOLSONA (one suite too many can cause truth decay) Tue Feb 18 1997 07:29

    
    
    Hi,
    
    I have a customer who has upgraded from 3.2a to 4.2b on his NSR server
    which is a Alphaserver 1000a, 256mb and running 3.2g of Digital Unix.
    
    Since the upgrade he is getting a number of events failing..
    
    
    savegrp -lf -I name_of_group
    
    name_of_fileset:save:Not enough space.
    
    The information that he is saving is a fileset on the server on itself
    but further investigation shows that some clients (which are still
    running 3.2a) are also failing with same error message and also he is
    unable to save the bootstrap information since the upgrade to 4.2b.
    
    Now I got the customer to check space on the filesystem for the index
    to grow although I do not believe this is the problem as he is using
    the -I option on the savegrp command. 
    
    I suspect there is a memory issue but can not find any detailed
    information about the error. Customer is using eager mode swap
    allocation. 
    
    Can anybody assist on this one?
    
    Many thanks for your help
    
    Avril
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418.1DECWET::RANDALLTue Feb 18 1997 11:517
Hi,

Please have the customer add a few '-v' to the savegrp command and then
post the verbatim output here.

-- Rich Randall
418.2-vvvv is enough "v"sDECWET::EVANSNSR EngineeringTue Feb 18 1997 13:030
418.3-vvvv output... save -f...KERNEL::NICHOLSONAone suite too many can cause truth decayWed Feb 19 1997 08:3194
    
    Hi,
    
    corp04:/				level=full
    corp04:/usr				level=full
    corp04:/kel_sys			level=full
    corp04:/u000/users			level=full
    corpo4:/express			level=full
    ta12ser1:/u030/data/oral_kel200	level=full
    ta12ser1:/u202/apps/ora_instance/kel200	level=full
    ta12ser`:u020/apps/oracle		level=full
    corp14:/                            level=full
    corp14:/usr				level=full
    corp14:/u000/users			level=full
    corp14:/kel_sys			level=full
    corp11:/                    	level=full
    copr11:/usr                         level=full
    corp11:/kel_sys                     level=full
    corp11:/u000/users                  level=full
    corp11:/master_source               level=full
    ta12ser2:/u120/apps/express         level=full
    ta12ser2:/u130/data/express         level=full
    2/19/97 12:16:14 savegrp:Run up to 1 clients in parallel
    2/19/97 12:16:14 savegrp: corp04:probe     started
    savefs -s corp04 -g Park Rd F Weekly -p -l full -R -v -F /usr/kel_sys
    /u000/users /express'
    savegrp: authtype nsrexec
    type: NSR client description;
    Pools supported: Yes;
    arch: decaxp
    CPU type: alpha;
    CPUs: 1;
    Hosts: 2;
    IP address: 128.3.1.34;
    kernel arch: OSF1;
    license units; 1050;
    NAS Client: No;
    OS: OSF1 3.2;
    version: V4.2b
    save set: path=/, arg=/, level=full, diskno=4, max_sessions=1,
    stype=save;\
    path=/usr, arg=/usr, level=full, diskno=3, max_sessions=1, stype=save,\
    path=/kel_sys, arg=/kel_sys, level=full, diskno=2, max_sessions=1,
    stype=save,\
    path=/u000/usrs, arg=/u000/users, level=full, diskno=1, max_sessions=1,
    stype=save,\
    path=/express, arg=/express, level=full, diskno=0, stype=save;
    parallellism=8
    corp04:/			level=full, dn=4, mx=1, vers=pools, p=8
    corp04:/usr                 level=full, dn=4, mx=1, vers=pools, p=8
    corp04:/kel_sys             level=full, dn=4, mx=1, vers=pools, p=8
    corp04:/u000/users          level=full, dn=4, mx=1, vers=pools, p=8
    corp04:/express             level=full, dn=4, mx=1, vers=pools, p=8
     2/19/97 12:16:20 savegrp: corp04:/u000/usrs
    save -s corp04 -g Park Rd F Weekly -LL -f - -m corp04 -l full -W78
    -N /u000/users /u000/users
    2/19/97 12:16:25 savegrp: corp04:/u000/users failed.
    *corp04:/u000/users rcmd localhost, user root: 'save -s corp04 -g "Park
    Rd F Weekly" -LL -f - -m corp04 -l full -W78 -N /u000/uses /u000/users'
    *corp04:/u000/users save:Not enough space
    2/19/97 12:16:25 savegrp:corp04:/kel_sys 	started
    save -s corp04 -g Park Rd F Weekly -LL -f - -m corp04 -l full -W78 -N
    /kel_sys /kel_sys
    02/19/97 12:16:31 savegrp:corp04:/kel_sys failed.
    corp04:/kel_sys rcmd localhost, user root: 'save -s corp04 -g "Park
        Rd F Weekly" -LL -f - -m corp04 -l full -W78 -N /kel_sys
    /kel_sys'
    *corp04:/kel_sys  save:Not enough space
    
    I have typed this in from a fax so there may be the odd typo.
    
    This is what the customer has tried to resolve the problem but failed
    
    1) reduce parallelism to 1
    2) reclaim index space
    3) change swap allocation to lazy mode.. swap space is now 100% free
    4) change sysconfigtab per-proc-data-size and stack size and the max
    stack size. 
    5) made more space on the root partition
    6) reduce to backing up one fileset.
    7) changed from cluster host to workstation
    8) removed a nsr client
    9) just using one tape drive.. (tz88)
    
    none of these worked
    
    what did work however if the customer ran the save -s command 
    but left -f qualifier with no options. Looking at the man page for this
    it appears that the -f pulls in directives.
    
    What do you think?
    
    Thanks
    Avril
418.4...any more news...avrilKERNEL::NICHOLSONAone suite too many can cause truth decayWed Feb 26 1997 03:407
    
    
       Any news?
    
    
      thanks
      Avril
418.5DECWET::RANDALLWed Feb 26 1997 18:043
I am still trying to reproduce this.  No new news yet.

-- Rich Randall
418.6Also have the same problemCHEFS::TIMMIS_JMon Apr 07 1997 08:4717
    I also have a customer with exactly the same problem
    
    We are running Digital UNIX on 4 servers
    2 are Alphaserver2100s and 2 are Alphaserver4100s
    Each pair is running as and ASE pair
    
    I was having problems with DEC NSR Version 3.2a and advised to upgrade
    to Version 4.2b as I was having CPUs mismatched errors.
    I have actually re-installed from scratch as I did not want tokeep my
    indexes.
    
    I have set up 1 client as a Cluster Host with 2 savesets / and /pwrk
    / backs up fine but
    /pwrk gets the error save: Not enough space
    
    Any help gratefull received
                                                           
418.7Problem solvedCHEFS::TIMMIS_JWed Apr 23 1997 09:204
    Just for completeness, I have managed to solve this problem with help
    from the CSC by installing NSR 4.2b Patch 12
    
    No problems since