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Conference decwet::networker

Title:NetWorker
Notice:kits - 12-14, problem reporting - 41.*, basics 1-100
Moderator:DECWET::RANDALL.com::lenox
Created:Thu Oct 10 1996
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:750
Total number of notes:3361

375.0. "NSR v3.1a expression ploblem?" by TKTVFS::KOZASA (Japan/MCS/Tsukuba Hiroshi.Kozasa) Mon Feb 03 1997 05:25

Dear, all

Our customer upgrade NSR from 3.0 to 3.1A.
Our customer used NSR v3.0 about two years ago , the ohter day we experience
"Index Size Limitation (2GB)". So we upgraded DECNSR . 

(Our customer environment)
DEC OSF/1 V3.0A
DECNSR    V3.1A    (patch installed nsrv31a-001,002,003,004,005,006)

about version up for v3.1a
succeed to nsr.res ��nsrjb.res 
index convertion "nsrcf -F " works fine.


(problem)
After the full backup operation done ��DECNSR says each filesystem size 
become 41XX MB .
DECNSR v3.0 has not this expression.  ( same  `df -k` )
The customer worry about this full backup operation.
I inquire into some logfile ( /var/nsr/logs) , no error message found.
And i inquire into "volumes" that written by this ful backup operation ,
it seems good size our expectancy.
Personally, this problem is only expression , but i want to *fix* this 
problem. 


Thanks, Hiroshi

(output `df -k`)

jrc0> df -k
Filesystem          1024-blocks        Used       Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/rz1a                126743       77067       37001    68%    /
/dev/rz0g               1991325     1463459      328733    82%    /usr
/dev/rz2c               1991325      991672      800520    55%    /usr/var
dm_nsr#fs_nsr           6165720     3054119     3097056    50%    /usr/var/nsr
dm_1#fs_1              10276200     9966290      289384    97%    /h01
dm_2#fs_2              10276200     9962189      268296    97%    /h02
dm_3#fs_3              10276200     8807674     1420544    86%    /h03
dm_4#fs_4              10276200     4411951     5786088    43%    /h04
dm_5#fs_5              10276200     6317979     3934816    62%    /h05
dm_6#fs_6              10276200     9504000      738496    93%    /h06
dm_7#fs_7              10276200     7318036     2905384    72%    /h07
dm_8#fs_8              10276200       36221    10228040     0%    /h08
dm_9#fs_9              10276200     8233647     2027856    80%    /h09
dm_10#fs_10            10276200     7484602     2736800    73%    /h10
dm_11#fs_11            10276200     9669188      553208    95%    /h11
dm_12#fs_12            10276200     5483302     4630736    54%    /h12
dm_13#fs_13            10276200     9192513     1030208    90%    /h13
dm_14#fs_14            10276200     9316868      959332    91%    /h14
dm_15#fs_15            10276200     7311829     2900272    72%    /h15
dm_16#fs_16            10276200     5263929     4995960    51%    /h16
dm_17#fs_17            20939944     9876394    10988856    47%    /h17
dm_18#fs_18            20939944    11964080     8897328    57%    /h18
dm_19#fs_19            20939944    12015670     8895256    57%    /h19
dm_20#fs_20            20939944      252384    20680312     1%    /h20
/export/pvm@mserver      412127      367590        3325    99%    /usr/users/dig
ita/pvm



(/usr/var/nsr/logs)
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: NetWorker savegroup: (notice) tl820 completed, 1
 client (All Succeeded)
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: Start time:   Sat Feb  1 00:10:00 1997
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: End time:     Sat Feb  1 15:52:42 1997
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: 
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: --- Successful Save Sets ---
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: 
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h01                        level=full,  
 4185 MB 02:19:56  17480 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h02                        level=full, 
 4185 MB 02:26:26  54585 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h03                        level=full,  
 4186 MB 02:14:41  31261 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h04                        level=full,  
 4190 MB 01:14:53  26239 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h05                        level=full,  
 4188 MB 01:50:23   6106 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h06                        level=full,  
 4185 MB 02:04:38  27420 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h07                        level=full,  
 4187 MB 01:59:30  46759 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h08                        level=full,    
 34 MB 00:00:48   1096 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h09                        level=full,   
 4186 MB 02:24:35   8400 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h10                        level=full,  
 4187 MB 02:04:39  28596 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h11                        level=full,  
 4185 MB 02:51:28  59710 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h12                        level=full,  
 4189 MB 01:49:48 199820 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h13                        level=full,  
 4185 MB 02:06:49  70769 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h14                        level=full,  
 4185 MB 02:34:31 100427 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h15                        level=full,  
 4187 MB 02:07:33  51623 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h16                        level=full,  
 4189 MB 01:24:38    872 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h17                        level=full,  
 4186 MB 02:31:45 104678 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h18                        level=full,  
 4183 MB 03:52:56  90145 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h19                        level=full,  
 4183 MB 03:04:56    448 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /h20                        level=full,   
 253 MB 00:03:49      6 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   jrc0: /usr/var/nsr/index/jrc0     level=full,  
 4192 MB 01:09:13      8 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog:   saveindex: bootstrap              level=full,  
  2.3 MB 00:07:15     12 files
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: * jrc0:index lpr: lp: unknown printer
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: * jrc0:index /usr/bin/saveindex: printing bootst
rap information failed (reproduced below).
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: * jrc0:index 
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: * jrc0:index Feb  1 15:52 1997 jrc0's NetWorker 
bootstrap information Page 1
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: * jrc0:index 
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: * jrc0:index   date     time    level       ssid 
 file  record   volume
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: * jrc0:index 12/29/96  1:24:06      9      24787 
  178       0   BER101
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: * jrc0:index 12/30/96  1:33:35      9      24809
   204       0   BER101
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: * jrc0:index 12/31/96  1:46:29      9      24831
    64       0   BER102
Feb  1 15:52:42 jrc0 syslog: * jrc0:index  1/01/97  1:25:14      9      24853
    41       0   BER103
Feb  1 15:52:51 jrc0 syslog: NetWorker index: (notice) nsrim has finished che
cking the media db
T.RTitleUserPersonal
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375.1DECWET::FARLEEInsufficient Virtual um...er....Mon Feb 03 1997 09:4620
My first question is this:

If you were upgrading the customer, why not bring them up to
a current kit?  3.1A is still quite old, and your chances of getting
a patch to it are fairly miniscule.

Now, as to the filesystems being all reported to be "41XX MB" in size,
are you referring to the saveset size?

If so, do you see savesets named like:
/h01
/h01<1>
/h01<2>

These are called "continuation savesets", and are simply the case that
NetWorker breaks the large savesets into multiple smaller savesets
to make its internal management easier.  Operationally, you should
see no difference.

Kevin Farlee
375.2TKTVFS::KOZASAJapan/MCS/Tsukuba Hiroshi.KozasaTue Feb 04 1997 06:2140
Thank you for your advice.

>My first question is this:
>If you were upgrading the customer, why not bring them up to
>a current kit?  3.1A is still quite old, and your chances of getting
>a patch to it are fairly miniscule.

Our customer used osf/1 v3.0a.
                        ~~~~~~
So, i read some interesting installation guide for DECNSR each version.
I decided on upgrading to 3.1A(DECNSR)

>Now, as to the filesystems being all reported to be "41XX MB" in size,
>are you referring to the saveset size?
No, i don't think so personally.
I believe our full backup opration completd successfully.
But the customer has a suspision the backup filesystem being all reported to 
be "41XX MB" in size . This size is not an actual size .
In short , the customer watch the reporting mail from DECNSR , the reporting 
mail say "41XX MB" .  


>If so, do you see savesets named like:
>/h01
>/h01<1>
>/h01<2>
>These are called "continuation savesets", and are simply the case that
>NetWorker breaks the large savesets into multiple smaller savesets
>to make its internal management easier.  Operationally, you should
>see no difference.
You are right . I think so.

My question 
(1) Why not reporting actual total amount size as DECNSR V3.0 ?
(2) Is there a possibility that we mistake some setting ?
(3) Any idea??? 

I appreciate your kind comment.
Hiroshi kozasa.
375.3DECWET::FARLEEInsufficient Virtual um...er....Tue Feb 04 1997 09:1718
Without seeing the exact message, it is very difficult to guess
what is going on in detail, and if I did answer, it would only be that:
a guess.

The best way to proceed is a two-pronged approach:
1) Have your customer attempt some test-restorations to gain confidence
	that the data that they need is really getting backed up.  This
	is a very good idea in any case, to practice the recovery BEFORE
	it is an emergency!

2) Try to send the exact mail message (the entire message) to me, or post
	it here so that I can better understand what they are seeing.

My suspicion is that 3.1A is simply doing a more complete job of handling
large savesets than prior releases did, and that has some cosmetic effects.
Seeing the exact mail message will let me determine that.

Kevin
375.4TKTVFS::KOZASAJapan/MCS/Tsukuba Hiroshi.KozasaWed Feb 05 1997 03:51168
Thanks for your quick reply.

30-jan-1997  NSR version up done.

regards
Hiroshi kozasa

( the exact mail message from DECNSR )
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 15:52:46 +0900
From: system PRIVILEGED account <[email protected]>
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: jrc0.jrcat.or.jp's savegroup completion
Content-Type: text
Content-Length: 4768

NetWorker savegroup: (notice) tl820 completed, 1 client (All Succeeded)
Start time:   Sat Feb  1 00:10:00 1997
End time:     Sat Feb  1 15:52:42 1997

--- Successful Save Sets ---

  jrc0: /h01                        level=full,   4185 MB 02:19:56  17480 files
  jrc0: /h02                        level=full,   4185 MB 02:26:26  54585 files
  jrc0: /h03                        level=full,   4186 MB 02:14:41  31261 files
  jrc0: /h04                        level=full,   4190 MB 01:14:53  26239 files
  jrc0: /h05                        level=full,   4188 MB 01:50:23   6106 files
  jrc0: /h06                        level=full,   4185 MB 02:04:38  27420 files
  jrc0: /h07                        level=full,   4187 MB 01:59:30  46759 files
  jrc0: /h08                        level=full,     34 MB 00:00:48   1096 files
  jrc0: /h09                        level=full,   4186 MB 02:24:35   8400 files
  jrc0: /h10                        level=full,   4187 MB 02:04:39  28596 files
  jrc0: /h11                        level=full,   4185 MB 02:51:28  59710 files
  jrc0: /h12                        level=full,   4189 MB 01:49:48 199820 files
  jrc0: /h13                        level=full,   4185 MB 02:06:49  70769 files
  jrc0: /h14                        level=full,   4185 MB 02:34:31 100427 files
  jrc0: /h15                        level=full,   4187 MB 02:07:33  51623 files
  jrc0: /h16                        level=full,   4189 MB 01:24:38    872 files
  jrc0: /h17                        level=full,   4186 MB 02:31:45 104678 files
  jrc0: /h18                        level=full,   4183 MB 03:52:56  90145 files
  jrc0: /h19                        level=full,   4183 MB 03:04:56    448 files
  jrc0: /h20                        level=full,    253 MB 00:03:49      6 files
  jrc0: /usr/var/nsr/index/jrc0     level=full,   4192 MB 01:09:13      8 files
  saveindex: bootstrap              level=full,    2.3 MB 00:07:15     12 files
* jrc0:index lpr: lp: unknown printer
* jrc0:index /usr/bin/saveindex: printing bootstrap information failed (reprod
uced below).
* jrc0:index 
* jrc0:index Feb  1 15:52 1997 jrc0's NetWorker bootstrap information Page 1
* jrc0:index 
* jrc0:index   date     time    level       ssid  file  record   volume
* jrc0:index 12/29/96  1:24:06      9      24787   178       0   BER101
* jrc0:index 12/30/96  1:33:35      9      24809   204       0   BER101
* jrc0:index 12/31/96  1:46:29      9      24831    64       0   BER102
* jrc0:index  1/01/97  1:25:14      9      24853    41       0   BER103
* jrc0:index  1/02/97  1:08:51      9      24875    90       0   BER102
* jrc0:index  1/03/97  1:09:54      9      24897   260       0   BER101
* jrc0:index  1/04/97  1:10:22      9      24919   283       0   BER101
* jrc0:index  1/05/97  1:15:19      9      24941    87       0   BER103
* jrc0:index  1/06/97  1:22:02      9      24963   152       0   BER102
* jrc0:index  1/07/97  1:30:54      9      24985   133       0   BER103
* jrc0:index  1/08/97  1:33:17      9      25007   172       0   BER103
* jrc0:index  1/09/97  1:48:42      9      25029   211       0   BER102
* jrc0:index  1/10/97  1:38:56      9      25051   245       0   BER102
* jrc0:index  1/11/97  1:46:33      9      25073   219       0   BER103
* jrc0:index  1/12/97  1:23:23      9      25095    33       0   BER105
* jrc0:index  1/13/97  1:30:05      9      25117   271       0   BER103
* jrc0:index  1/14/97  1:39:04      9      25139    78       0   BER105
* jrc0:index  1/15/97  2:28:59      9      25161   114       0   BER105
* jrc0:index  1/16/97  1:25:08      9      25183   145       0   BER105
* jrc0:index  1/17/97  1:29:07      9      25205   137       0   BER104
* jrc0:index  1/18/97  1:19:19      9      25227   167       0   BER104
* jrc0:index  1/19/97  1:13:14      9      25249   195       0   BER105
* jrc0:index  1/20/97  1:06:31      9      25271   216       0   BER105
* jrc0:index  1/21/97  1:24:56      9      25293   222       0   BER104
* jrc0:index  1/22/97  1:19:23      9      25315    36       0   BER106
* jrc0:index  1/23/97  1:29:58      9      25337   262       0   BER104
* jrc0:index  1/24/97  1:44:26      9      25359    66       0   BER106
* jrc0:index  1/25/97  1:27:37      9      25381    30       0   BER108
* jrc0:index  1/26/97  1:08:46      9      25403    49       0   BER107
* jrc0:index  1/27/97  1:07:14      9      25425    58       0   BER108
* jrc0:index  1/28/97  1:12:31      9      25447   111       0   BER106
* jrc0:index  1/29/97  1:11:38      9      25469   134       0   BER106
* jrc0:index  1/30/97  1:10:20      9      25491   101       0   BER108
* jrc0:index  1/31/97  0:53:44      9       4239   122       0   BER108
* jrc0:index  2/01/97 15:45:26   full       4326    82       0   BER231



Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:46:07 +0900
From: system PRIVILEGED account <[email protected]>
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: jrc0.jrcat.or.jp's savegroup completion
Content-Type: text
Content-Length: 4840

NetWorker savegroup: (notice) tl820 completed, 1 client (All Succeeded)
Start time:   Sun Feb  2 00:10:01 1997
End time:     Sun Feb  2 00:46:03 1997

--- Successful Save Sets ---

  jrc0: /h01                        level=incr,    2.0 MB 00:02:07     13 files
  jrc0: /h02                        level=incr,     65 MB 00:06:14     87 files
  jrc0: /h03                        level=incr,    523 KB 00:02:11     10 files
  jrc0: /h04                        level=incr,      0 KB 00:01:57      0 files
  jrc0: /h05                        level=incr,      0 KB 00:00:17      0 files
  jrc0: /h06                        level=incr,    9.1 MB 00:01:41     29 files
  jrc0: /h07                        level=incr,    4.8 MB 00:03:06     16 files
  jrc0: /h08                        level=incr,      0 KB 00:00:07      0 files
  jrc0: /h09                        level=incr,      0 KB 00:00:26      0 files
  jrc0: /h10                        level=incr,      0 KB 00:02:31      0 files
  jrc0: /h11                        level=incr,     15 MB 00:03:28     48 files
  jrc0: /h12                        level=incr,      0 KB 00:10:07      0 files
  jrc0: /h13                        level=incr,      0 KB 00:03:09      0 files
  jrc0: /h14                        level=incr,     30 MB 00:05:54    406 files
  jrc0: /h15                        level=incr,     44 MB 00:04:02     16 files
  jrc0: /h16                        level=incr,      0 KB 00:00:09      0 files
  jrc0: /h17                        level=incr,    317 MB 00:11:23     21 files
  jrc0: /h18                        level=incr,     20 MB 00:04:31    185 files
  jrc0: /h19                        level=incr,      0 KB 00:00:07      0 files
  jrc0: /h20                        level=incr,      0 KB 00:00:04      0 files
  jrc0: /usr/var/nsr/index/jrc0     level=9,       598 KB 00:08:31      7 files
  saveindex: bootstrap              level=9,       2.3 MB 00:01:22     12 files
* jrc0:index lpr: lp: unknown printer
* jrc0:index /usr/bin/saveindex: printing bootstrap information failed (reproduced below).
* jrc0:index 
* jrc0:index Feb  2 00:46 1997 jrc0's NetWorker bootstrap information Page 1
* jrc0:index 
* jrc0:index   date     time    level       ssid  file  record   volume
* jrc0:index 12/29/96  1:24:06      9      24787   178       0   BER101
* jrc0:index 12/30/96  1:33:35      9      24809   204       0   BER101
* jrc0:index 12/31/96  1:46:29      9      24831    64       0   BER102
* jrc0:index  1/01/97  1:25:14      9      24853    41       0   BER103
* jrc0:index  1/02/97  1:08:51      9      24875    90       0   BER102
* jrc0:index  1/03/97  1:09:54      9      24897   260       0   BER101
* jrc0:index  1/04/97  1:10:22      9      24919   283       0   BER101
* jrc0:index  1/05/97  1:15:19      9      24941    87       0   BER103
* jrc0:index  1/06/97  1:22:02      9      24963   152       0   BER102
* jrc0:index  1/07/97  1:30:54      9      24985   133       0   BER103
* jrc0:index  1/08/97  1:33:17      9      25007   172       0   BER103
* jrc0:index  1/09/97  1:48:42      9      25029   211       0   BER102
* jrc0:index  1/10/97  1:38:56      9      25051   245       0   BER102
* jrc0:index  1/11/97  1:46:33      9      25073   219       0   BER103
* jrc0:index  1/12/97  1:23:23      9      25095    33       0   BER105
* jrc0:index  1/13/97  1:30:05      9      25117   271       0   BER103
* jrc0:index  1/14/97  1:39:04      9      25139    78       0   BER105
* jrc0:index  1/15/97  2:28:59      9      25161   114       0   BER105
* jrc0:index  1/16/97  1:25:08      9      25183   145       0   BER105
* jrc0:index  1/17/97  1:29:07      9      25205   137       0   BER104
* jrc0:index  1/18/97  1:19:19      9      25227   167       0   BER104
* jrc0:index  1/19/97  1:13:14      9      25249   195       0   BER105
* jrc0:index  1/20/97  1:06:31      9      25271   216       0   BER105
* jrc0:index  1/21/97  1:24:56      9      25293   222       0   BER104
* jrc0:index  1/22/97  1:19:23      9      25315    36       0   BER106
* jrc0:index  1/23/97  1:29:58      9      25337   262       0   BER104
* jrc0:index  1/24/97  1:44:26      9      25359    66       0   BER106
* jrc0:index  1/25/97  1:27:37      9      25381    30       0   BER108
* jrc0:index  1/26/97  1:08:46      9      25403    49       0   BER107
* jrc0:index  1/27/97  1:07:14      9      25425    58       0   BER108
* jrc0:index  1/28/97  1:12:31      9      25447   111       0   BER106
* jrc0:index  1/29/97  1:11:38      9      25469   134       0   BER106
* jrc0:index  1/30/97  1:10:20      9      25491   101       0   BER108
* jrc0:index  1/31/97  0:53:44      9       4239   122       0   BER108
* jrc0:index  2/01/97 15:45:26   full       4326    82       0   BER231
* jrc0:index  2/02/97  0:44:40      9       4348    98       0   BER231