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Conference jamin::pathworks32

Title:Digital PATHWORKS 32
Moderator:SPELNK::curless
Created:Fri Nov 01 1996
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:337
Total number of notes:1612

264.0. "Compatibility issue between PCSA (PATHWORKS v4) ??" by NNTPD::"[email protected]" (HKTS) Fri May 02 1997 03:24

Is there any compatibility issue between PATHWORKS v4.0 (Server side) with
PW32(Client side) ??

The real case is that one of our largest customer still using PATHWORKS v4
(PCSA) on the VAX server side but would like to use PW32 on NTv4.0 and 
PATHWORKS v4.1B on NTv3.51 for their clients.  However, connection denied
errors were found after the above changes; whereas originally using Win95
clients cause no problem.

We have tested using PWRKv4.1B on NTv3.51 with PWRKv5.0c Alpha/VAX server
without any errors and all user permission rights were perfectly fine.  In 
fact, we should not test as it MUST be fine.  But wondering if problem was
caused by PWRKv4.1B for WINNTv3.51.

Pls kindly advice.


Best Selling,

Eddy
HK Tech Support

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264.1VMSNET::mickey.alf.dec.com::s_voreSmile, Mickey's watching! [email protected]Fri May 02 1997 08:1725
> PATHWORKS v4.1B on NTv3.51 for their clients.  However, connection denied
> errors were found after the above changes; whereas originally using Win95
> clients cause no problem.

after what above changes?

In any case, PW32 really isn't the issue here as it's just providing
the DECnet transport. The question is NT's modern redirector vs. the 
ancient PCSA server. Connections can be made with a set of limitations
which are, I believe, documented in a couple of DSNlink/TIMA/STARS
articles.  In short,  either use all PUBLIC access services, or...
 
Set your NT Workstation Name (COMPUTERNAME) to an OpenVMS username.
Grant that OpenVMS user access to the share (possibly using groups).
Make the connection to that share before any PUBLIC-Accessable
shares, providing the OpenVMS password.
You can't have these auto-connect.

Note that a PATHWORKS V4 server is not a full LAN Manager server,
but it understands the older MS-Net dialect - with Digital 
enhancements - of the SMB (Server Message Block) protocol. In
practice this means that user level security does not exist, no
domains. 


264.2PW32 can use PWRK/PCSA server ?NNTPD::"[email protected]"HKTSThu May 08 1997 03:2414
What changes ??

I mean Win95 connects to PCSA server without any problem but access denied if 
using Winnt351/40 as a client connects to PCSA server.

Besides, should PW32 connects to PCSA (PATHWORKS v4.x) server ? Or PWRK
(v5.x)?
Any limitation between these two servers using PW32 as a client??

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264.3VMSNET::mickey.alf.dec.com::s_voreSmile, Mickey's watching! [email protected]Thu May 08 1997 08:1022
> Any limitation between these two servers using PW32 as a client??

Please re-read my .1  PW32 is ONLY providing the transport - unless 
you've got node-based restrictions defined somewhere in NCP, DECnet 
can't be causing your problems.

Yes, Win95 clients can use both the old unsupported PCSA v4.x server 
and the current 5.0x server.

Yes, NT 3.x clients can use both the old unsupported PCSA v4.x server 
and the current 5.0x server.

Yes, NT 4.x clients can use both the old unsupported PCSA v4.x server 
and the current 5.0x server.

And yes, as mentioned in .1, there are restrictions.  If you want the 
best connectivity possible, upgrade your server to the current 
version (5.0E eco1 right now) but expect that there will _still_ be 
some restrictions because that's a LAN Manager 2.2 server and NT's 
effectively LAN Manager 3.x


264.4What about the other way round ?WOTVAX::oloras12.olo.dec.com::Colin ClowesConfusion ReignsFri May 09 1997 13:1019
Hi,

To finish this topic off:

What about support for using old PCSA clients using DECnet to access File 
and Print services on a NT V4 server using Pathworks 32

Specifically

is there any restriction on PCSA V4.1 clients accessing Pathworks 32 NT 4.0 
using DECnet ?

Does it work ?
Is it supprted ?
will the DECnet stack cope with 100's users ?

Thanks

Colin
264.5SPELNK::curlessFri May 09 1997 13:487
Yes there are restrictions... NOT RELATED to DECnet, just to the differing
versions of the redirector, and what the client and server will negotiate
when connecting.  The limitations are VERY SIMILAR to the limitations
between NT and the PATHWORKS v4.x server.

Jeff