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Conference jamin::pathworks32

Title:Digital PATHWORKS 32
Moderator:SPELNK::curless
Created:Fri Nov 01 1996
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:337
Total number of notes:1612

177.0. "Password Synch similar to note 81.*" by SLOVAX::NEWMAN () Thu Mar 20 1997 17:59

    I have a large Pathworks client who is not able to get Pathworks 5.0E
    to assure that passwords are SYNCHRONIZED between Domain and OVMS. 
    They are becoming very frustrated with continued attempts to make this
    work reliably with a Lanman 2.1 on OVMS.
    
    I have suggested they consider Pathworks32 with password assistant to
    provide a single password and to sync security between apps on NT and
    file access on OVMS.
    
    1.  Will this really provide password synchronization?
    
    2.  Will this synch really work on the OVMS server so that the
    passwords remain?
    
    3.  Is there any other way to sync passwords for 500 desktops with a
    requirement to run apps off WNT and file access to OVMS files?
    
    If a user changes his password, it must be changed in both places.
    
    
    Cheers,
    
    Sandy
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177.1VMSNET::S_VORESmile - Mickey's Watching!Mon Mar 24 1997 07:3611
    Password Assistand does NOTHING to synchronize passwords.  It is a
    "lockbox" on the PC which holds passwords that are then used in
    aplications which can access that storage place - currently VT320 and
    PowerTerm.
    
    Perhaps you mean the SINGLE SIGNON feature available in OpenVMS (7.1?)
    and PATHWORKS for OpenVMS 5.0E?  This provides the capability for
    OpenVMS to use a password that's authenticated in a different place -
    an NT PDC for example.
    
    
177.2REplicate passwords in lanman2SLOVAX::NEWMANTue Mar 25 1997 17:1730
    Yes, I am referring to replication of password changes within the
    domain, where OVMS is in the same domain as WinNT.
        
    It appears that since OVMS is lanman 2, that WinNT does not always
    reliably replicate password changes made by an NT User to the OVMS
    system causing the NT User to not be able to access files on the
    OpenVMS System.  
    
    I guess Microsoft knows about this but is not going to fix it. 
    People should move to lanman 3 which isn't available on OVMS.
        
    The other option is to move OVMS out of the domain.  This would work ok
    but feels like you are hiding from the problem and causes other issues
    such as passwords must be entered to access shares on the OVMS system.
        
    About 80% of the time you are ok but when you are not, you need to take
    action to make this work.
        
    If you change the OVMS system using NET ACCOUNTS to change the role,
    sometimes you can get the passwords sync between systems.
        
    Other times you cannot, and it appears that you cannot stop net logging
    on one of the node in the cluster.  Some steps are ok but painful to
    users.   
        
        Any help would be appreciated.
        
        Sandy
    
                                                           
177.3Try this ? (WELPCP is 16.183.48.114)WOTVAX::16.194.208.3::warder.reo.dec.com::sharkeyaWho am I now ?Tue Mar 25 1997 17:434
\\WELPCP\WINPASS

Alan

177.4VMSNET::S_VORESmile - Mickey's Watching!Wed Mar 26 1997 08:232
    and raise this question in the OpenVMS(LAN Manager) Server notesfile;
    PATHWORKS 32 isn't involved in this topic at all.