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1851.0. " DFWS V3.0 - List of new features ?" by LISA2::CORREIA_C (CELIA CORREIA @XIP) Mon Mar 10 1997 06:29

Hi , 

My client (and I) wants to know the new features in the  Firewall V3.0. Is there already an "beta" ;-) list 
of the new features that will come width the new version V3.0 ?
I know about the http full authentication, But in other areas, is there any new features in reporting, 
alarms and generic gateways ? 


Many thanks in advance,
C�lia Correia
 
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1851.1you're not the only one asking thisBRSDVP::ROELANDTSWa d'es ma da ve ne stuutMon Mar 10 1997 11:1912
    
    
    C�lia,
    
    You're not the only one .... more and more people are asking about V3.0
    but no answers  ..... check in the previous notes and you'll find some
    others asking the same thing.
    
    Regards,
    
            Guy
    
1851.2try hereSNOFS1::snod14dgp26.gen.sno.dec.com::snov14.sno.dec.com::stylianouaTue Mar 11 1997 06:123
http://www.altavista.software.digital.com/firewall/products/97/index.htm

Andrew Stylianou
1851.3thank youBACHUS::ROELANDTSWa d'es ma da ve ne stuutTue Mar 11 1997 06:486
    
    
    Thank you Andrew,
    
       Guy
    
1851.4NCMAIL::SMITHBTue Mar 11 1997 07:49312
                   AltaVista Firewall 97 

                          The Active Firewall 

                 AltaVista Firewall 97 offers best in class for both local
                          and remote management. 

                          Listen to some comments from NetworkWorld (2/3/97):
             "AltaVista Firewall is the easiest to configure and control
                of all the firewalls we looked at". "AltaVista Firewall has
                 one of the most sophisticated features in the reporting
                          and accounting area." 

                     AltaVista Firewall provides you with OnSite Protection,
                  the highest level of security available on your choice of
                     platforms Windows: NT* (Intel or Alpha), BSD/OS on Intel
                     and Digital UNIX on Alpha. AltaVista Firewall 97 makes
                          managing heterogeneous configurations easy. AltaVista
                          Firewall 97 management is consistent and compatible
                          with your existing systems. 

                          AltaVista Firewall 97 offers remote management
                    capabilities through the AltaVista tunneling technology at
                   no cost. From a centralized remote station running either
                          Windows 95 or NT, system administrators can view
                          firewall activities from anywhere and quickly take
                          appropriate actions. 

                          Remote Management provides the following
                          capabilities: 

                               Display the states of all services, alarms and
                               current status 
                               Start/stop specific services, like ftp (on UNIX) 
                               Maintain and manage security policies, user
                               authentication. DNS, mail and new SNMP alarms
                               on any Digital UNIX machine (on UNIX) 

                          URL and Java Blocking is provided for both
                     performance and security. AltaVista Firewall 97 blocks
                          URLs to preserve network performance and to restrict
                  access to Web sites. It detects and blocks Java applets
                entirely by allowing selective filtering through the firewall
                          to protect against network attacks. 

                          Enhanced WWW proxy
                   AltaVista Firewall 97 contains significant performance
                          improvements, based on code optimization. 

                          Real-Audio Proxy allows or prevent users on internal
                          network systems with Web browsers to access
                          RealAudio services on the external network. 

                          UDP proxy is a new proxy which allows specific UDP
                  applications like Internet Chat to pass through the firewall
                          securely on UNIX . 

                          SQL* net proxy
                          The best news is that you can now build your own
                  networks of Oracle7 or other third-party data repositories
                          across the Internet simply. SQL*Net establishes a
                          connection to a database when a client requests a
                          session. Since this proxy is based on the Oracle
                    Multi-Protocol Interchange (MPI), it inherits many of the
                          Multi-Protocol interchange features. Such as: 

                          Superior Security Proxy 

                          Generic TCP relay enhancements
                          With TCP relay enhancements for added security,
                      AltaVista Firewall 97 broadens security policies using
                          TCP relay for one-to-many and many-to-one connection.
                          The management GUI also supports the TCP generic
                          relay for ease of use. 

                          Powerful and Flexible Authentication 

                          Authentication for WWW users or group of users
                          The enhanced WWW proxy includes authentication for
                          specific users or group of users by any authentication
                          schemes currently supported by the UNIX firewall such
                          as CRYTOcard or re-useable passwords. This feature
                    provides system administrators with great flexibility to
                          implement their policies with finer granularity 

                          Windows NT domain authentication support
                          This feature Integrate Windows NT domain
                      authentication scheme. This allows access to Internet
                     services (e.g. ftp, telnet) to users authenticated by this
                    scheme and finer grained control over firewall traversal.
                          This is a clear win for both end-users and MIS
                          managers. 

                          Dual-DNS Server, Dual-DNS servers understand which
                          name services are internal and external. The Dual-DNS
                          server is fully configurable through GUI based
                          management. 

                          With DMZ (Demilitarized Zone), AltaVista 97 on UNIX
                          offers more than a simple trusted/untrusted
                          implementation supporting only two LAN connections. 


                  Look at the following AltaVista Firewall 97 checklist and
                  you will see that AltaVista Firewall 97 has your security
                          needs covered both now and future at an affordable
                          price. 




                          Firewall checklist


                           AltaVista Firewall 97 (V3.0)
                           Features 
                                                   Digital
                                                   UNIX 
                                                             NT (Alpha and
                                                             Intel)
                           Best-in-class Management 
                                                   X 
                                                             X1
                           URL and JAVA blocking 
                                                   X 
                                                             X2
                           Proxies 
                                                    
                                                              
                             Enhanced WWW proxy 
                                                   X 
                                                              
                             Real-audio proxy 
                                                   X 
                                                             X 
                             Generic UDP proxy 
                                                   X 
                                                              
                             SQL*net proxy 
                                                   X 
                                                              
                             One to one and many to one
                           generic proxy 
                                                   X 
                                                             X3
                           Authentication 
                                                    
                                                              
                             NT domain login 
                                                    
                                                             X 
                             Web user or group of users 
                                                   X 
                                                              
                           Dual DNS 
                                                   X 
                                                              
                           Single server for firewall and
                           VPN 
                                                   X4
                                                             X 
                           DMZ support 
                                                   X 
                                                              


                             1.Some restrictions apply. See feature description. 
                             2.Only URL blocking is supported on NT. 
                             3.Already supported on NT. 
                             4.Already supported on UNIX. 


                           Type of Firewall 
                                                  Digital UNIX 
                                                               Windows NT 
                           - Hardware 
                                                  Alpha 
                                                               Intel and Alpha 
                           - Software 
                                                  Only 
                                                               Only 
                           - Packet filtering 
                                                  Yes 
                                                               Future 
                           - Application-level 
                                                  Yes 
                                                               Yes 
                           - Circuit-level 
                                                  Yes 
                                                               Yes 
                           - Dual Homed 
                                                  Yes 
                                                               Yes 
                           - Multi-homed 
                                                  Yes (via SI
                                                  Service)
                                                               No 
                           - Fast networking connections
                                                  Yes 
                                                               Yes 
                           - DMZ support 
                                                  Yes 
                                                               No (Future)



                           Additional
                           security 
                                          Digital UNIX 
                                                          Windows NT 
                           - Anti-spoofing 
                                          Yes 
                                                          Yes 
                           - Internal address
                           hiding 
                                          Yes 
                                                          Yes 
                           - Trusted Operating
                           System 
                                          Yes 
                                                          Partial 
                           - Virus Scanning 
                                          Yes (via third-paries
                                          e.g. Finjan, McAfee)
                                                          Yes (via third-parties
                                                          e.g. FinJan, McAfee)
                           - Java Blocking 
                                          Yes 
                                                          No 
                           - URL Blocking 
                                          Yes 
                                                          Yes 
                           - ActiveX Blocking 
                                          Future 
                                                          Future 



                           Certification 
                                      Digital UNIX 
                                                Windows NT 
                           NCSA 
                                      Yes 
                                                Yes (first vendor to obtain
                                                certification)
                           ITSEC 
                                      Future 
                                                Future 



                           Management 
                                               Digital UNIX 
                                                           Windows NT 
                           Graphical interface 
                                               Yes (HTML) 
                                                           Yes (HTML and
                                                           Windows)
                           Real-Time monitoring 
                                               Yes 
                                                           Yes 
                           Real-Time reporting 
                                               Yes 
                                                           Yes 
                           Service-user logging 
                                               Yes 
                                                           Yes 
                           Failed-Usage attempt
                           logging 
                                               Yes 
                                                           Yes 
                           Statistical analysis 
                                               Yes 
                                                           Yes 
                           Alarm analysis 
                                               Yes 
                                                           Yes 
                           Evasive action 
                                               Yes 
                                                           Yes 
                           Paging 
                                               Yes (SNPP and
                                               script)
                                                           Yes (script only) 
                           Remote administration 
                                               Yes 
                                                           Yes 
                           Central admin of multiple
                           firewalls 
                                               Yes 
                                                           Yes 

















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1851.5NCMAIL::SMITHBTue Mar 11 1997 07:515
Will the next version of the www relay allow web publishing through ftp puts
like with Netscape Gold?

Also, we noticed that passwords come out in clear text in the www logs, will
that be fixed in  the next release?
1851.6BIGUN::nessus.cao.dec.com::MayneChurchill's black dogTue Mar 11 1997 16:364
You can do this already by opening a hole from the development system inside to 
the public machine outside. (UNIX only, of course.)

PJDM
1851.7MS updates web content thru proxyPRMS00::COLETue Mar 11 1997 17:1010
    The latest Microsoft Visual Interdev will publish (ie update
    web server content) using http (and SSL if desired) and supports
    operation thru a web proxy.  I can create content on my Win95
     desktop in Digital and push it to a customer's web server
    on the Internet with one click !  All you need is the Front
    Page extensions for the Webserver (Microsoft even supplies these
    for the Netscape Enterprise Server)
    
	...larry
    
1851.8EEMELI::EINAMOWed Mar 12 1997 06:011
when will version 3.0 be shipping ....
1851.9don't use itANNECY::HOTCHKISSThu Mar 13 1997 03:069
    re -1 do we really care when it ships???
    re -2 even the visionary club members get no forewarning of features.I
    would be tempted to call this just another evidence of the security by
    obscurity attitude which pervades AV but it also smacks of engineering
    arrogance.
    My advice to you all is to be network security experts first,product
    range experts second and AV experts third.This way you will keep the
    expertise people should be paying us for.And if AV doesn't work or
    doesn't respond,don't use it.
1851.10V3.0 ship-dateNETRIX::"[email protected]"tim ShineFri Mar 14 1997 11:4317
AltaVista Firewall 97 for WindowsNT , Digital UNIX and BSD/OS 
is scheduled to ship to customers by 27-April-1997. Private Beta (formerly
EFT)
is now in progress. The Public Beta kit is scheduled to be available on 
28-March-97 which will be downloadable from altavista.software.digital.com.

I apologize for the lack of information flow from AV this has been due in 
part to frequent changes in the PM organization. 

I can mail you directly a Word document describing the features of V3.0 
( I'm not sure if I can post it here).  I'm also happy to answer any further 
questions you may have.

Regards
Tim Shine 
AV Firewall Engineering Manager
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]
1851.11CHEFS::espol1.gmt.dec.com::PITTGone with the winsock ...Tue Mar 18 1997 12:0212
The document that Tim refers to in the previous reply has now been
"published" to a WWW server.  By this I actually mean that I told
Word to save it as html, and then I undid the worst excesses in the
html that I generated ...

To access it, look at the firewall area on the WWW server on sector
- you'll all remember that this is http://sector.gmt.dec.com/firewall
and look under the section on Software Versions.

I hope this will save Tim having too many requests for the information.

T
1851.12BIGUN::nessus.cao.dec.com::MayneA wretched hive of scum and villainyTue Mar 18 1997 17:0217
The page in .11 contains not much more than the public page 
(http://altavista.software.digital.com/firewall/products/97/index.htm), and 
in some minor ways it has less, but it does have the following gem:

	Firewall 97 broadens security policies by offering a generic TCP relay
	for one-to-many and many-to-one connections. Consequently, an instance
	of the generic relay such as news can have one server on the inside of
	the firewall getting feeds from multiple news servers on the outside.
	This generic relay is also fully transparent outbound so there will be
	no need to reconfigure internal systems. The management GUI supports
	both one-to-many and many-to-one configurations.

So yes, we now have a generic transparent proxy.

Thanks for the info.

PJDM
1851.14Did I miss something?PMESD::BEABESWed Mar 19 1997 18:3111
Pardon me, I have been hiding in the realms of the obsolete government applications, so I am a bit behind.

It has been interesting and quite enlightening to be playing catch up on the aspects of V3 also known as AltaVista
Firewall 97. Now I would like to play a bit, before I am required to go back to where there is "NO Assistance" and
install these products while the customer looks over my shoulder.  

Where are the kits to be posted for not only the Firewall 97 but also the Tunnel 97??????


Regards
Ernie
1851.15Transparent Web proxy?BIGUN::nessus.cao.dec.com::MayneA wretched hive of scum and villainyFri Mar 21 1997 01:545
Neither "new features" document says if the Web proxy is transparent. Is it? 
We've got a customer whose users don't currently use a proxy, and it would be 
highly convenient not to reconfigure hundreds of PCs.

PJDM
1851.16CHEFS::espol1.gmt.dec.com::PITTGone with the winsock ...Mon Mar 24 1997 12:3713
You really don't want a transparent www proxy, as Mark Smith
persuaded me in the Autumn.  The WWW proxy handles connections
to ALL ports, whereas a transparent proxy is by definition specific
to some ports.

Having said that, I have used the transparent gxd to proxy port 80,
and thereby got transparent www proxy for that port alone.  You could
add in a few likely ones like 8000 and 81, perhaps.  What you lose is
the application level logging, of course ...

Still, you pays ya money, and ya takes ya choice ...

T
1851.17BIGUN::nessus.cao.dec.com::MayneA wretched hive of scum and villainyMon Mar 24 1997 17:4022
I (actually my customer) really do want a transparent WWW proxy.

I know a transparent proxy only handles one port. However, it's reasonable to 
assume that most (not all, but most) Web servers use port 80, so a transparent 
Web proxy on port 80 would work fine most of the time.

Now, this customer has many, many PCs that currently don't use a proxy server. 
When we put the firewall in, all of those PCs will lose Web access until they've  
been modified to use a proxy server, which will be a major undertaking. If we 
had a transparent Web proxy, things would continue to work fine, and we can do 
the PC modifications over as much time as we like. Whenever somebody wanted to 
get to a non-port-80 Web server, we could individually tell them how to do it, 
or we could add transparent Web proxies for those ports too.

As you say, we could use a transparent generic proxy, but as you say, there's no 
logging, which is a pretty major loss.

Yet again, engineering convenience takes precedence over customer convenience...

PJDM


1851.18CHEFS::espol1.gmt.dec.com::PITTGone with the winsock ...Wed Mar 26 1997 09:1530
Re .-1:  I think the final comment about engineering
convenience and customer convenience is unfair.  

This issue has been discussed - as I said before I had a 
long conversation with Mark Smith about it in the Autumn, 
and he corrected much of my thinking on in.  My position
changed as a result of this discussion.

Many of the decisions that are clear cut to one or more
of us are not so clear cut to Engineering (or Product
Management) I am sure.  If you - that's you as an
individual, not Digital NSIS firewall consultants as a
community - were to get what you want, then another
feature would probably have to be dropped, thereby 
causing pain to another individual.  I know that I've
put a great many things on the "wants" list for AFW,
and mine alone are more than they could implement this
year!

I believe that your customer convenience in the short
term _can_ be adequately handled in AFWU V3 by using
the transparent generic relay.  Yes, there is a (small)
loss by doing this instead of using a generic WWW proxy,
but it can be done.  As a result, I'm glad that 
transparent WWW proxy was not pushed up the list at the
expense of something else.

T