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Title:SEAL
Moderator:GALVIA::SMITH
Created:Mon Mar 21 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1989
Total number of notes:8209

1817.0. "Logging and report on other machine ?" by LISA1::CORREIA_C (CELIA CORREIA @XIP) Wed Feb 26 1997 12:37

Hi, 

I have a client that would like to have the logging and the firewall reports 
donne in other internal machine. Is there any way to make it  possible ??
i.e  direct the logging (it will be somthing like, edit the syslog.conf and
point to other machine xpto ) and then have a way to "prepare" the firewall to
produce the reports from logging in other machine --> Pure fantasy ?? ;-)

Is there a good alternative for this ...

Any help is most appreciate
C�lia Correia
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1817.1BIGUN::nessus.cao.dec.com::MayneChurchill's black dogWed Feb 26 1997 17:3215
Not quite sure what you're asking for, but if, as you say, you "edit the 
syslog.conf and point to other machine xpto" then the syslogs will appear on the 
other machine xpto.

If you want to produce reports on the internal machine, hmmm...

I wrote a bunch of Perl scripts for a SEAL firewall that produced reports from 
the logs. Eventually, the logs became too big for the system and the scripts 
were running out of memory. My answer was "it's a firewall, not an accounting 
machine", so they took they Perl scripts and logs and ran them on an internal 
system.

Maybe engineering might consider separate report generation in a future version?

PJDM
1817.2QUICHE::PITTAlph a ha is better than no VAX!Thu Feb 27 1997 06:0612
The syslog issue is "easy" - just modify the /etc/syslog.conf in the "normal"
way to point to a remote machine.  

As for the reporting, you "simply" (!) have to lift every file from the
firewall, and place it in the same directory on the internal machine.  The
reports are created and mailed from the cron job that runs manage_syslogs, so
you'll need that as well, and that will ensure that the syslog files are managed
for you on the internal machine.  Finally, you will also have to take
/etc/syslog.conf onto the internal machine, so that the syslog files are laid
out the same way as on the firewall.  Then it should all work ...

T
1817.3Logging and report on other machineLISA1::CORREIA_CCELIA CORREIA @XIPThu Feb 27 1997 07:0722
Hi, 

reply 1817.2
>As for the reporting, you simply have to lift every file of the firewall and
>put it in the same directory ....

For what I untherstand the solution is (just have a little dought in item 2),

	1.Direct the logs file to internal machine
	2.install another firewall in internal machine (you didn't say install 
	   but copying every file from the firewall, it will be easyer 
	   installing the firewall - the client has dedicated machine for it, 
	   but doesn't have two ethernet cards- is there any trouble installing 
	   the firewall ??)
	   
 	3. copy the cron file also 


Many thanks for your replies,
C�lia Correia

  
1817.4QUICHE::PITTAlph a ha is better than no VAX!Thu Feb 27 1997 07:2510
OK, if the customer has another machine that can act only as a firewall, and has
two licenses for AFWU (!?!) then you can avoid lifting all the files.  I was
assuming that the internal machine was simply a Digital UNIX box used for other
purposes.

You can install AFWU on a one Ethernet box.  You do however have to pretend that
the serial port is going to run SLIP or PPP, I think, to get through the GUI
setup ...

T
1817.5EEMELI::EINAMOFri Feb 28 1997 02:197
	Hi

	If you install firewall it makes the system very safe so you probably
	face problems like copying files/telnetting etc. so take care. :)

	marko
1817.6Logging and Report on other machineLISA1::CORREIA_CCELIA CORREIA @XIPMon Mar 03 1997 07:3212
Hi , 

I've copied all the file under /usr/dfws and try to start the GUI interface 
But I' ve got always the 403 error (unauthorized client access...), I've look
in the file access.conf and it alows the 127.0.0.1 I even changed for 
allow from all , but in the end I've got the same error ...

Is there any other file or restriction that I'm missing ??

Any help is most appreciate, 
Thanks in advance
C�lia
1817.7loggin and Report on other machineLISA1::CORREIA_CCELIA CORREIA @XIPThu Mar 06 1997 06:3615
Hi , 

I've found the solution, was the user from witch run the http server, everything is 
working now 
:-)

Now the client is questioning why can't I take the log files form the firewall completly, 
Like in seal you put the log files in the internal machine to increase security (?) 
I now for a fact, if I take the log files  the alarms stop working width the altavista firewall, 
isn't possible (correct me if I'm rong).

Is the new version V3.0 comming width some new features for the logging and report ?  


Many thanks in advance
C�lia Correia