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Title:SEAL
Moderator:GALVIA::SMITH
Created:Mon Mar 21 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1989
Total number of notes:8209

1751.0. "File PUSH from inside firewall!" by CHEFS::AYLESBURY_L () Fri Jan 31 1997 12:48

    
I have a request from a customer asking for an audit trail of a file transfer 
through a firewall. He is concerned that people on the inside of the firewall 
can push file outside using an unlogged mechanism (unlike uuencoded files 
attached to mail messages that are logged in mail.log).

The method goes like this:

1 The customer connects to www.hotmail.com from his Netscape browser.
2 He logs into his hotmail account.
3 He composes a mail and then clicks the ATTACH button.
4 He then gets a pop-up window allowing him to select a local system file to 
  attach.
5 He selects a file and confirms the attachment.

The message can then be sent from the hotmail account with the file attached 
uuencoded.

The above works as I have tested it but I cannot find any record of the file 
being sent in any of the following log files; [mail.log, ftpxd.log, proxy-log, 
cache-log, syslog, netaccess.log and kern.log]

Can anyone tell me what method is used to transfer the file from the local 
system to the remote system outside the firewall?

Les
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1751.1SMTP - and the content is NOT logged ...QUICHE::PITTAlph a ha is better than no VAX!Wed Feb 05 1997 08:156
    SMTP is used to transfer the file.  The mail logging on the firewall
    (or anywhere else) does not log anything about the content of the mail. 
    All it logs is the sender, recipient and number of bytes transferred,
    and things like that.
    
    T
1751.2Can't see any smtp logs!CHEFS::AYLESBURY_LThu Feb 06 1997 08:0415
    Tony,
    
    As far as I've been able to determine, the attachment process does not use
    SMTP to transfer the file. I ran tail -f mail.log and nothing gets
    entered. Where would it mail it to anyway?
    
    I suspect there is no record anywhere of this type of data transfer. I
    have tried it from within DEC and the files are sent to hotmail.com. I
    bet we don't log this either.
    
    Any ideas on how to turn logging on for this in httpd?
    
    Les
    
       
1751.3QUICHE::PITTAlph a ha is better than no VAX!Thu Feb 06 1997 08:2915
    In that case, I suspect that the mail is uploaded over http, using the
    WWW proxy, and the HotMail server then sends it out.  Most people think
    of WWW as a pull application only - that is to say my browser (client)
    pulls something from a server.  This is not a complete model.  There
    are a number of ways in which information can pass from the client to
    the server - the most obvious of these is filling in a form, but there
    are a number of others.
    
    Exactly as in the case of mail, there is nothing that will log the
    content.  There will simply be a record in the wwwproxy.log file that a
    browser connected to a particular URL.
    
    Can anyone be more precise as to what is happening here?
    
    T