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Conference deming::bass_fishing

Title:Welcome to the Bass Fishing Notes
Notice:Welcome Anglers
Moderator:CRONIC::SULLIVAN
Created:Tue Apr 16 1996
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:60
Total number of notes:440

53.0. "Using guides" by DELNI::OTA () Mon Feb 03 1997 13:06

    My brothers and I have been toying around with the idea of hiring local
    guides when we hit really big lakes.  Anyone use guides, are they worth
    the money?
    
    Brian
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53.1I've got a lulu..GIAMEM::NSULLIVANMon Feb 03 1997 13:145
    
    	YES !!!!!!
    
    	Is this in Maine ??
    
53.2yesNEWVAX::WHITMANgun control = 5% gun + 95% controlMon Feb 03 1997 18:428
Yes a guide is worth the money... The first day to learn the lake and/or to
get techniques that work on that lake that you may not know about...

I don't think I'd want one for more than one day though. That would be a waste
of beer money...

Al    

53.3YEAPCPEEDY::MACINTYREPATHWORKS Server EngineeringTue Feb 04 1997 07:3221
    I've had good luck using guides down south on the first day of fishing
    trips.  I've used guides on Okeechobee, Santee-Cooper and Lanier.
    Have done well on other spots w/o a guide.  Wish we had used a guide on 
    the St Johns (Fla), lots of tidal water.
    
    Santee was so good that we've been going back there and fishing the
    same patterns for 7-8 years.  Last year a couple of guys in our group
    got a guide down at Santee, but from the sounds of it they asked the
    guy to show them spots and he did just that, spent most of the time
    zipping around the lake rather than showing them how to catch fish. 
    Didn't appear to be very productive to me.
    
    While I've been going to Santee for many years, I'm thinking of getting
    a guide again this year to help me with the stripers and worldclass
    catfish.
    
    I've never used one in the northeast.  But if you go south and have 
    never fished down south I would definitely suggest a guide, the water 
    is very different.
    
    If you want one in the northeast try 1-800-GOLEGEND
53.4Guides are for SissiesSUBPAC::MATTSONTue Feb 04 1997 11:568
    Nope Brian, not for you and your brothers.  Think of all that money you 
    can use to buy more BPS stuff on sale.  Guides are in the same 
    catagory is wasting money on Fishing Seminars.  We all know where you 
    stand on that subject 8^) !!!!  Save your money and buy another All Star
    Rod.  Better yet dial 1-800-LEGEND and get hooked up with them Winnie 
    Smallies. 
    					the ever helpful,
    							  mADD mATT
53.5DELNI::OTAWed Feb 05 1997 10:5021
    Hey Mad Matt
    
    Guides is not the same as seminars..  Seminars you get a dozen pro's
    oushing their sponsors tackle and giving conflicting opinions like
    every bassmaster mag.  Take a good look in any one issue and one guide
    swears soft plastic in cold water another stickbaits an third jigging. 
    Each pro has their own likes and sticks with it.
    
    I have used a guide on Winnie, and let me tell you that bearded
    hugeness knew his stuff, but threatened me if I ever disclosed who he
    was that I would be found wrapped in chains on one of those rocky
    outcrops he so likes.  He threatened me as he washed his truck, then
    swept out his boat, then dusted his dashboard.  He did alright.
    
    But I suspect that paying a guide might be worth the money on a big
    lake that would take my brothers and I in our little 10hP all day to
    cover.  
    
    Yes the lakes are in Maine.
    
    Brian
53.6Great Maine Guide..GIAMEM::NSULLIVANWed Feb 05 1997 14:275
    
    	I'll send you his name and address VAXMAIL ( this guys huge too )
    
    					Neil.
    
53.7No, they wouldn't do that would they ????SUBPAC::MATTSONFri Feb 07 1997 12:476
    Gee Brian, is that because there might be more than one technique to
    catching Bass in Cold water  ??????
    
    							MM
    
    		(Who don't need no stinking guide on Winni NO MORE !!!)
53.8DELNI::OTAFri Feb 07 1997 14:5324
    But of course Mr Madd Matt
    
    I believe as Al Linders says....10 % of a body of water holds 90% of
    the fish.  Thats why guides are different than seminars.  I truly
    beleive that on any given body of water only a few places will
    consistently produce bass.  I know on one particular lake I fished that
    same body of water a kajillion times and then one day I found a spot. 
    It was a small hump just below the surface in the middle of nowhere. 
    Just looking in that bay you would never have found it, I did strictly
    by accident and every time I fish it, there are three of four good
    sized bass there.  Thats why I was considering hiring a guide for a big
    lake, when you only have a 10 hp motor you can fish all day and never
    find one of those spots.  If guides really lead you to them, then that
    much time is saved.
    
    I'll stick to it, seminars on the other hand are like a room full of
    these Mid Week Haulers.  You get them in one room and each and every
    one of them experts has a different technique and sure fire bait to
    land them bigguns and you can't convince any of them yours is better.
    Nuff said!
    
    Oats
    
    
53.9Another twistDELNI::GAFFNEYGone fishin/racinFri Feb 07 1997 18:417
    A lot of guys will hire a plane for a couple of hours.  That and
    a good camera, you'll have all the humps located yourself.
    Could be cheaper than a guide, also.  I know thats what I'm
    going to do when I finally qualify for the Classic   :*)
    
    Gone fishin
    Gaff (dreaming again!)
53.10MHH = Many Humongus HawgsSUBPAC::MATTSONMon Feb 10 1997 12:177
    re.8
    
    But Brian, a lot of those MHHs put a lot of fish in the boat  !!!!!
    I'm sure a guide can at least put you on to a good spot and or
    technique that will produce.  But as Gaffer aluded to, know what to
    look for and using your experience works wonders.  An excellent Topo
    map can help as well.
53.11planes work sometimesNEWVAX::WHITMANgun control = 5% gun + 95% controlWed Feb 12 1997 08:4110
<    A lot of guys will hire a plane for a couple of hours.  That and
<    a good camera, you'll have all the humps located yourself.

   Works great on clear lakes like you guys have up north, but many of the
lakes in the south are the color of hot chocolate; in Calif much of the fishing
is done at 40' or better.  The sky-view technique is not very effective there.
If your goal is to catch fish, as opposed to just enjoying a great day on the
water, then a guide for the first day is not a bad investment.

Al