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Title:Boston_bruins 1996-97 Season
Moderator:DIVER1::MACHADO
Created:Sat Sep 07 1996
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:175
Total number of notes:1602

128.0. "Thu. Feb. 27th Tampa Bay Lightning 7:30 NESN" by DIVER1::MACHADO (Crazy on a ship of fools) Sun Sep 08 1996 23:35

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128.1ZZZZzzzzzzzzzDIVER1::MACHADOCrazy on a ship of foolsThu Feb 27 1997 09:2411
    	With twenty games left to the regular season I find that the ONLY
    reason for watching tonight's game for ME is to see how the crowd
    reacts to Adam Oates. That's the only thing that I care about seeing. 
    Being the hockey fan that I am, it's a sad note when I don't care that
    the season is so close to being over. I understand that Tampa Bay is
    slumping, so I would normally be looking forward to a Bruins win but
    I'm sure that the B's will find a new and uninteresting way to lose
    again tonight. 
    
    Barry
    
128.2look againFSCORE::B_LEURYThu Feb 27 1997 09:343
    >>I understand that Tampa Bay is slumping....
    
    Some slump, they're 5-0-1 in their last 6 games!
128.3ASABET::pelkey.ogo.dec.com::pelkeyProfessional HombreThu Feb 27 1997 09:464
I should the the B's faithful would be behind Oates, more
sor than behind that dirt bag Oconell,,

Good point though,,,  something to watch for?!
128.4Here's hoping they lose every gameDONVAN::R_PLOURDEThu Feb 27 1997 10:3315
    
    WHY WOULD anyone at this point want Boston to win another game all 
    year. The only hope this franchise has is to bank on Thornton as being 
    another Eric Lindros and finishing last and getting him and another 
    top five pick from Hartford (if we are that lucky). Then maybe we would 
    have a few guys to start to rebuild around. 
    
    The thing that really amazes me is that Boston has played so damn bad
    yet they are in a 5 way struggle to be the worst! Teams like NYI,
    Sharks, LA, Tampa SUCK just as bad as Boston...   How do those places
    stand being so bad??? This year has not been normal for beantown and 
    the city is up in arms over it. How can these other places put up with 
    such bad hockey on a regular basis? 
    
    Rp 
128.5DIVER1::MACHADOCrazy on a ship of foolsThu Feb 27 1997 11:2210
    	Maybe I'm thinking of the Panthers slumping. I thought one of those
    Florida teams was slumping. Maybe I'm wrong. I haven't been paying a
    lot of attention to hockey this year. Work and family just seem to
    demand more time with every passing year. 
    
    	I don't actually care whether they're playing a hot team or a
    slumping team. They're gonna lose anyway.
    
    Barry
     
128.6get this....ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Thu Feb 27 1997 15:1020
    ....wanna know what those fans going to da game tonight should do?
    Hmmmmmmmmm???
    
    when Oatsie comes out, give 'em a standing "O"...then leave!
    Everyone, just leave!  That would B da ballz fer sure!
    
    Oh, and more trade rumors abound...Florida wants Oatsie, but they're
    only offering a young prospective D-Man and a draft choice....
    
    HUH??  Oatsie's, what, 14th in scoring with 64 points, and all the
    Panthers want to part with is a young, inexperienced D-Man?
    And forget about the draft pick, it'll B somewhere near the bottom...
    
    
    oh well.....are the Celtics on tonight??  Oh wait, they suk too...
    hmmmmm...looks like I'll work late after all.....bummer...
    
    :^(
    
    mac
128.7HEY! Whattdoya know? B's won! ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Feb 28 1997 07:5627
    ....well, I got the "standing O" right, but da fans stayed anyway
    (sparse tho they were)...B's actually played a very entertaining game
    last night, beating the once-streaking Lightning, 6-2.....Oatsie had
    3 assists (now watch the offers come in...).....heck, if yer gonna
    get screwed, then traded, might as well play yer best...wouldn't
    surprise ma at all if Oatsie went to the Pens, 'specially with Jagr
    out indefinitley with a groin pull (OUCH!).....Donato. Stumple,
    Dimaio ALL played a helluva game....Ranford got run by _____________
    for Tampa Bay, but then looked like he over-reacted a little, looked
    bad at first for Ranford, but then wanted to come back in, so it
    looks cool with Ranford...then Tallas showin' some ballz fer sure
    going after _____________ for Tampa Bay, started a little jossling
    match, a few punches, the crowd was eatin' it up!
    
    And everytime Oatsie touched the puck or assisted, the fans game him
    a standing "O" ....heck, WE know what side we're all on, and tell
    me Pinhead wasn't steaming in his own chowdah 'cuz of that.....
    
    
    B's on FOX again Saturday...nice time for a game, 3:00pm...just gettin'
    home from work, pop a few.....
    
    fried_day mac
    
    
    "Bring me the head of Harry Sinden", the man shouted from
    his barstool at the TV.....
128.8Woopie did us no good. KOOLIT::R_PLOURDEFri Feb 28 1997 08:1632
    
    Dave Shaw ran Ranford
    
    Talls tussled with John Cullen
    
    
    
    Oates is worth Jovanovski, Mellanby & a 1st rounder from the Panthers.
    I'd love to see Oates stay in Boston but there little chance of that. 
    Just hope Sinden gets his worth in a deal rather than getting his usual
    pants pulled over his head.  
    
    Tocchet on the other hand isn't worth squat.... His trade value
    decreases every week. I'd be surprized if the B's get anything more
    than an ham&egger and a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him. 
    
    I can't say it enough the Bruins need to pick up Thornton in the draft 
    It is THE ONLY WAY they will potentially get another franchise player. 
    It will also be the only way they can get a potential superstar without 
    bumping Bourques salary again... 
    
    
    The Bruins 3rd and 4th lines should have players like
    Donato,Moger,Stumpel, Mallette, Odgers, Heinze... this means the Bruins 
    are at least 5 players away from being contenders. 
    
    Players like Dimaio, Kennedy, Mcleary shouldn't even be in this league.
    
    
     Rp 
    
    
128.9Maybe that's why Sinden hasn't yet traded him. :*)KAOFS::WATTERSFri Feb 28 1997 08:529
    >>Oates is worth Jovanovski, Mellanby & a 1st rounder from the
    >>Panthers.
    
    ???????????
    Jovanowski is a definite Norris trophy winner w/in 2 years.
    Oates is 34. Even straight up NO ONE would make this trade.
    
    
    Andy
128.10and elephants can fly....PATE::NEFFjust doin' the Mad Ticker...Fri Feb 28 1997 09:3412
    
>    Oates is worth Jovanovski, Mellanby & a 1st rounder from the Panthers.


   Ron - what the hell are you smoking ???



_sbn    
    
    

128.11Age...the downfall of us allASDG::JOHNSONwraflc::gamesFri Feb 28 1997 09:388
    Oates' age is one of the factors that will prevent the Ruins from
    getting anything top notch for him....I mean he's worth it but with
    his age he is unfortunately past his prime. Glad to hear that the
    fans supported him .. he deserves it.
    
    Now where the hell is my putter?
    
    Jerry
128.12ASABET::pelkey.ogo.dec.com::pelkeyProfessional HombreFri Feb 28 1997 09:4627
I wonder if Oates will wind up not being traded...
Kinda hard to trade the only guy on the bench
that can make a pass or finish a play...  The trade
would be only because Oatsie spoke his mind, but we
can't have that,, not in the city of devine thought,,
gotta have the Management UNACCOUNTABLE for the b's
problems on the ice right ?  hey it's not *THEIR*
fault right ?  Right, have another blast of fantasy
Oconnel.. I think Harry's got the knee pads out,,,

well, we'll  find out soon enough, trade deadline is 
coming fast...  

annnnnnnd. for all you hopeless optimists out there, 
here's a fun fact..

B's gotta play at least .700 hockey to have a chance of a
playoff spot...  And I think that predicts that all the
other teams going for the last spot in the conf. have
to play no better than .500  

I can't believe someone actually had the gonads to put that
stat together... Bruins just aren't gonna get there this 
year unless some miracle happens and they go on a 15 game
winning streak,, ? Hey what are them chances huh,, any takers,
and if yes, I got some beach front property in Arizona for
sale.....
128.13Oconnell is still an idiotSTAR::DEAN_GFri Feb 28 1997 10:535
Oconnell's comments on the standing ovations that Oates got was that the fans
supported what Adam does on the ice.  Basically still trying to insinuate that
us fans don't support what he does off the ice.

Dean
128.14FSCORE::B_LEURYFri Feb 28 1997 11:4622
    >>Oates is worth Jovanovski, Mellanby & a 1st rounder from the Panthers.
    
    You made my day :-) :-)  Thanks for the laugh!  Have you been sharing
    a bottle with Harry?  
    
    Jovanovski is the only D-man in the league that can handle Lindros and
    if you want to compete in this conference (past the first round that
    is) you must handle Lindros.   
    
    Consider what the Leafs got for Gilmour and what the Kings got for
    Gretzky last year.  The Bruins will get about the same for Oates which
    is not much.  Don't get me wrong,  I really like Oates and without
    Oates the Bruins would be....well you don't even want to think about
    it.  But as someone said,  a 34 year old player is not going to get you
    much.  
    
    And you can bet the farm that Oates will be traded. The Flyers sure could 
    use him (and a goalie) if they're serious about winning the cup this year.
    They have enough youth that giving up some of that youth for Oates would 
    not hurt them too badly in the long run.
    
    Bernie.
128.15Maybe it's the Indomethacin I'm taking. DONVAN::R_PLOURDEFri Feb 28 1997 13:0239
    
    
     I'm glad I made you laugh.. 
    
     You can say what you'd like. IMO Oates is a far better natural talent 
     with several more high production years ahead of him. Oates age has
     little to do with his effectiveness. He plays on a team of nobody's 
     and still produces #'s that keep him in the top 10 of the league. 
    
     He's never had a serious injury and he is not a physical player so 
     there are little concerns about durability and #yrs left in him. 
    
     He contributes more on both sides of the line and on special
     teams than all but I'd say 5 players in the league.  This said I 
     think a promising Jovanovski, a role player Mellanby and a pick 
     are equal in worth. 
    
    
     I unlike some of you realize that hockey is becoming more of a sport
     that doesn't look at dynasty's or long term goals (the Av's are all 
     that remain from those days). Teams today are like american investing.
     Make $5today screw the opportunity to make $10 2yrs from now... I'd take
     a team of immediate impact players over a team of promising talent in
     today's NHL because next year you can always trade away, pay for free 
     agents etc... There are few longterm deals and team loyalty. Why are
     the rangers still in the hunt ? This is what they do.. What about
     Dallas (same thing). 
    
     So say what you'd like, if you don't get high value in return for
     Oates You DON'T trade him. He is the offense on this team. 
    
     As for Jovanovski handling Lindros... last year in the playoffs 
     the Beezer handled Lindros along with the rest of the flyers. I really 
     like Jovanovski but Lindros tossed him around like a rag doll. I
     wouldn't say Ed's the only D-man in the league who can handle Lindros.
     
     Rp