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Conference akocoa::decpc_portables

Title:DECpc _Portables
Moderator:PCBUOA::GLANTZ
Created:Wed May 08 1991
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2423
Total number of notes:11059

2370.0. "Help with Ultra II hard disk change" by CHOWDA::SMITH (Dan Smith) Fri Apr 11 1997 21:38

	Last night I was working with my HiNote Ultra II.  During a
Defrag, the disk began to cycle on and off and hung the system.  I shut
it down and tried to reboot.  Unfortunately, it just cycled and I got a
"Disk I/O" error message. Since then, that message has turned into "Hard
disk failed"  "Press 'H' to retry Hard Disk, any other key for floppy". 

	In any event, I assumed that the disk had died and although I
was not happy at the prospect, I did have another drive and figured I
would change it to check my assumption.  Well, imagine my surprise when I
removed the drive and found that the housing, that holds the drive, has
2 screws and TWO rivets.  I was led to believe that changing the drive 
was virtually child's play, but with the way the drive is attached to 
the casing, it looks like a substantial exercise involving a drill, etc.

	Any suggestions as to the correct way to change a drive?  And if 
the answer is that the replacement drive must be a Digital supplied 
item, I think that defeats the intent of a "replaceable" drive.  Any 
thoughts or suggestions would be most appreciated, as I would like to 
get my system up and running.

Thanks,

Dan 
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2370.1See Previous Discussions...XDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringMon Apr 14 1997 12:104
   The HiNote Ultra series drive swaps have been discussed before.
   They're not impossible, but they're not child's play, and it's
   easy to trash the system.
2370.2Thanks, but wrong UltraCHOWDA::SMITHDan SmithMon Apr 14 1997 12:2310
Sorry to restate, BUT I am talking about an Ultra II.  I believe that 
most of the previous discussions were related to the Ultra 1.  By the 
way, I have done a few Ultra 1 disk upgrades, using the .HLP file 
mentioned in another string and it works like a charm.  

However, my current issue is with the Ultra II and although it appears 
to be fairly simple (one screw on the bottom of the case and the disk 
carrier drops out), it may not be as advertised.  Any other thoughts?

Dan
2370.3re: .0 - Look again!PCBUOA::akodhcp176-155.ako.dec.com::alderman[email protected]Mon Apr 14 1997 16:5511
>> Well, imagine my surprise when I
>> removed the drive and found that the housing, that holds the drive, has
>> 2 screws and TWO rivets.  

NOT rivets, funky little hex screws

>> I was led to believe that changing the drive 
>> was virtually child's play, 

Did you ask a child? <g>

2370.4You missed one.PCBUOA::akodhcp176-155.ako.dec.com::alderman[email protected]Mon Apr 14 1997 17:129
Before you get yourself into more trouble, the funky little 
hex screws come in from the side of the drive onto the "rivets" 
which are part of the base plate.

Also, note the additional tiny screw next to system socket 
holds the fragile connector film. DO NOT TEAR IT!!!

Removing the drive connector can be tricky if you lack patience. 
Sorry to repeat myself. DO NOT TEAR IT!!!
2370.5ZVOLMC::LE_THMon Apr 14 1997 18:5239
    re: .0
    
    >> Well, imagine my surprise when I
    >> removed the drive and found that the housing, that holds the drive,
    >> has 2 screws and TWO rivets.  
    
    >>> NOT rivets, funky little hex screws
    
    Funky little hex screws is close, but no cigar. It's a Torx (T6) screw.
    
    This is how I do it:
    
    1. Remove the black phillips-screw, slide open the latch, then take the
       hard drive out.
    2. Remove two white phillips-screws and two white Torx-screws (using
       proper tools).
    3. Lifting up the flat case "slowly & carefully" until the "four
       guided-pins" disengage from the "hard drive".
    4. Use a small flat-screwdriver then "slowly & carefully" disengage the
       connector from the drive.  PAY ATTENTION to the way the connector
       connected to the drive, the last two pairs are by themselves.
    5. Remove the drive, there may be a piece of (double-side) tape used to
       hold the drive to the case, so watch out.
    6. Install a new drive, perpendicular at first, to align for the pins
       and to make certain the two last pairs are left open. 
    
       CAUTION: Wrong connection will burn the flat cable
    
       Then flip the drive clockwise 90 degrees to the case.  Make sure the 
       four guide-pins are locked into the four holes on the drive.
    7. Put the four screws back in (tighten it, of course).
    8. Install the drive, lock the latch, and tighten the last screw.
    
    regards,
    
    /Thien
    521-3724
    
      
2370.6Now we all know how to do it!CHOWDA::SMITHDan SmithTue Apr 15 1997 09:466
Thanks to everyone, especially -1.  Those tiny setscrews can be 
misleading.  By the way, I found that a 1.5mm hex wrench works well.  
In any event, I pulled the drive and put it into another system and 
it appears to work okay, so I will assume that the MB is the problem.

Dan