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Conference 501clb::pcdoom

Title:Doom - The Game
Notice:Doom stuff - see 183 Out of HOURS Access
Moderator:BAHTAT::HILTON
Created:Tue Jun 14 1994
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:212
Total number of notes:3287

185.0. "Thy Flesh Consumed?" by ANGLIN::PEREZ (Trust, but ALWAYS verify!) Wed Jul 19 1995 16:55

    I'm seeing a new DOOM advertised here in Minneapolis.
    
    Supposedly on 1 CD are the original Doom, and Doom 4 - Thy Flesh
    Consumed...
    
    Anybody know anything about this?  Is it real, or is this another one
    of the put-the-shareware-on-a-CD-and-charge-for-it ripoffs?
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185.1It's for real, from GTI...YIELD::MMURRAYHey Frank, let me borrow your keys.Wed Jul 19 1995 17:1114
         RE: -.1
    
         Thy Flesh Consumed is the fourth episode for the original DOOM.
    
         I recently picked up the new CD, I never ordered the original
            DOOM, that contains v1.9 of DOOM Episodes 1 to 3 plus 4,
            THY FLESH CONSUMED...
    
         I've run through the levels like a good QLB... Some real nice
            death match levels in episode 4. They've also changed E1L1
            slightly. I'm up to E3L4 and haven't seen any other changes.
    
                                                           Bye,
                                                            Mike.
185.2BIS1::MENZIESNatural Born SpellerThu Jul 20 1995 04:453
    Sounds like a con to me, whats the retail price ?
    
    Shaun
185.3KERNEL::BROWNMDRACOThu Jul 20 1995 07:217
    E4 is a new episode created by id, whether it is any good I don't know,
    but it seems that they are doing their best to finance their Quake
    project.
    
    Also what's this I hear about a Doom 3 coming out before Quake?
    
    Mark
185.4I "thunk" it was worth it! :^)YIELD::MMURRAYHey Frank, let me borrow your keys.Thu Jul 20 1995 08:3919
    
         Hi all,
    
         RE: Con?
    
         No, I don't think so considering the price was about $40.00...
            Wasn't that the original price from Id for just the three
            episode patch ridden DOOM?
    
         I suppose this is why I waited so long to buy the original...
            I can't easily pick up patches to games so I was waiting
            for Id to finish their fixes.
    
         As for DOOM 3, I haven't heard anything... But, if they put
            extras in like they did in Heretic, but not make it a
            Heretic clone I'd probably get it...
    
                                                            grins,
                                                             Mike.
185.5Free update for REGISTERED Doom 1 usersBAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionMon Jul 24 1995 13:119
    Ok, the FREE update for Doom 1 users to Thy Flesh Consumed is on :
    
    bahtat::19_udpat.exe
    
    I think you have to be on Doom 1.9 for this to work.
    
    Greg
    
    PS Can it be moved into the official Doom archives?
185.6DoneGIDDAY::GILLINGSa crucible of informative mistakesTue Jul 25 1995 02:0912
>    PS Can it be moved into the official Doom archives?

  I couldn't quite see how "19_UDPAT.EXE" was descriptive so I changed it
  to TFCUPD.EXE ("Thy Flesh Consumed UPDate"). It's in 

  	BANDI::DOOMDISK:[MISC]TFCUPD.EXE 2085 blocks

  Listing has been updated too.
						John Gillings, Sydney CSC


  Please let me know if the name is somehow critical.
185.7YUPPY::BUSHAlive and KickingTue Jul 25 1995 05:147
    
    	Do we need to be on ver 1.9 to play this? If so can someone stick
    	1.9 onto the net.
    
    	Tony_still_using_1.6 
    
    
185.8BAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionTue Jul 25 1995 05:246
    Tony,
    
    The updates from 1.666 --> 1.9 are on the Doom archives. Note you must
    have registered version.
    
    Greg
185.9YUPPY::BUSHAlive and KickingWed Jul 26 1995 06:0513
    
    Right....
    
    Copied ver 1.9 from BANDI, copied TFC from BANDI. Got home last night
    and patched up to 1.9 - no problem. copied TFCUPD.EXE to DOOM directory
    and typed TFCUPD - prompt is to rename to 19_UDPAT.EXE. Did this. Typed
    19_UDPAT and got the same prompt - rename to 19_UPDAT.EXE.
    
    What am I missing?
    Do I need to unzip the EXE file. Tried that and it did nothing - gave
    a PKZIPFIX error.
    
    	Tony B.
185.10BAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionWed Jul 26 1995 08:121
    Mine worked fine with the initial copy I put on bahtat::udpat.exe
185.11YUPPY::BUSHAlive and KickingThu Jul 27 1995 05:2010
    
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGHHH!!!
    
    Copied 19_udpat.exe from BAHTAT:: 
    
    Took it home copied it to DOOM directory and typed 19_udpat
    
    Again, prompt is to rename to 19_udpat.exe!!!
    
    	Any more help?
185.12BAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionThu Jul 27 1995 06:221
    How are you copying it?
185.13Brain on loanYUPPY::BUSHAlive and KickingThu Jul 27 1995 11:115
    
    	Just a straight forward copy command from BAHTAT to my hard drive.
    Copy to A:, take home then copy to C:\doom.
    
    	Tony B.
185.14KERNEL::BROWNMDRACOThu Jul 27 1995 13:264
    What did you use to copy from BAHTAT (which I believe is a VMS machine)
    onto a PC?
    
    MArk
185.15JGO::AMERSFOORTFri Jul 28 1995 03:3210
    I tried 19_udpat.exe and I have the doom 1 registered version but still
    it doesn't work. When I use pshell.exe  they're looking for some kind
    of file to update. But then they are talking about an old file that
    doesn't excist [no file found to patch, error: ept00015 or something].
    I have Doom 1.2 registered version but it didn't work then I used patch
    v1.666 and tried with 19_udpat.exe but still it searched for a file
    that doesn't excist. Help!!
    
    Mick
    
185.16BAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionFri Jul 28 1995 05:4210
    re .15
    
    Nick
    
    You have to be Doom 1 v1.9.
    
    ALso I tried it on my Doom dir, where the WAD etc had been patched and
    it failed, so I had to go back to a clean new install.
    
    Greg
185.17YUPPY::BUSHAlive and KickingFri Jul 28 1995 07:0513
    
    Re-14	Mark,
    
    	Copied from BAHTAT to my VMS account. Then used NFT (Network file
    	transfer) to pull it onto the PC.
    
    	re-16
    
    	Greg,
    		Did it work after the clean install ?
    
    	Someone wo's got it working, please detail exactly HOW!!
    
185.18JGO::AMERSFOORTFri Jul 28 1995 07:415
    I did a clean install with Doom 1 [ver 1.2] and then I used the
    19_udpat-patch but still it doesn't work. It keeps telling me "couldn't
    find old file [error: ept0015]."
    
    Mick.
185.19Need to upgrade to 1.9 1stYASUMI::jenningsThis space for rentFri Jul 28 1995 08:4411
You can't go from DOOM 1.2 to ULITMATE DOOM 1.9!!!  You must do the upgrade in
two steps:

   DOOM 1.2 -> DOOM 1.9

then

   DOOM 1.9 -> ULTIMATE DOOM 1.9

That's why the patch program is saying it can't find the file.  It's looking
for the 1.9 version of the DOOM exe and wad files.
185.20BAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionFri Jul 28 1995 10:215
    ou have to got 1.2 --> 1.666 --> 1.9 --> ultimate Doom
    
    I never had any complaints about the name of my .exe.
    
    Greg
185.21JGO::AMERSFOORTFri Jul 28 1995 10:474
    Where can I find this patch 1.9 ??
    
    Mick.
    
185.22some observations on TFCSUBSYS::MSOUCYTue Aug 01 1995 11:4820
    
    I have toyed with this one, and will say a couple things on what I have
    observed with it.
    
    1) Harder than earlier episodes!
    
    2) Use GOD Mode more often when in critical situations (a lot of the
    time now!!)
    
    3) Graphics can get a bit jerky when moving quickly in scenes with lots
    of enemies (486/33 w/8 megs ram, 1MB on VLB (will check w/2meg on VLB
    soon as I just put it in last night))
    
    4) Seem to be able to cruise through this rather quickly in GOD mode,
    and haven't found a lot of secrets even when using Map Mode. Are there
    a lot of secrets a-la E1-3?
    
    5) Hmmm, am waiting on other games to come out, like Blood, Tyrian,
    Duke Nukem 3D, and others slated for Q2/3 1995 from Apogee/Epic.
    
185.23I like it ..OCTAVE::VIGNEAULTMinister of chilesWed Aug 02 1995 14:5511
    
    I upgraded from 1.666 registered to the 1.9 Ultimate Doom. I don't 
    know if it's just my imagination, but it seems to be a bit faster 
    than 1.666.  In Thy Flesh Consumed, all of the enemies seem to move
    and shoot faster.  This is a tough episode and there's some really 
    cool levels in it.  The levels are some of the best I've seen yet.
    
     The secrets are pretty tough to find and in the early levels you
    really need to save up your ammo.  
     
      Larry
185.24sob sob sob sob sobYUPPY::BUSHAlive and KickingMon Aug 07 1995 11:4630
    
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Yet again!!!!
    
    Tried a clean install of doom
    Upgraded to 1.2
    Upgraded to 1.666
    Upgraded to 1.9
    
    All OK
    
    Tried to install TFC
    Prompt - Rename to 19_udpat.exe
    
    did that
    
    prompt - Rename to 19_udpat.exe
    
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    
    If anyone would be so kind as to send me a disk with TFC on it, and
    some incredibly idiot proof instructions like.... "Insert disk in drive
    A......type XXXXXXXX"
    
    Pleeeease....
    
    	Tony B. (7847 8518) or Tony G Bush @LON (All-In-1) or YUPPY::BUSH
    (VMS)
185.25BAHTAT::HILTONhttp://blyth.lzo.dec.comTue Aug 08 1995 10:092
    Can you not download the patch from Id using the WWW or one of the
    mirror sites?
185.26YUPPY::BUSHAlive and KickingTue Aug 08 1995 11:056
    
    	-1 Greg,
    
    	Nope - I've no access, only to DECNET on VMS nodes. 
    
    	Tony B.
185.27ULTIMATE PATCH REQUIREDBRADOR::S_FITZGERALDThu Oct 19 1995 09:378
    	I have a registered copy of 1.666,Can someone list in easy steps
    what files are required to update to ultimate doom.I have tried
    various patches from these notes with no success.I must be missing
    something.GETTING DEPRESSED.
    
    SEAN
    
    
185.28Fairly straightforwardMOEUR2::SMITHFast as a Mamba, Brave as a Lion!Thu Oct 19 1995 12:367
    
    Yup, there are 2!
    
    First the 1.666 to 1.9 upgrade, then the 1.9 to TFC upgrade.  At least
    this worked for me!  They should be available on the public area...
    
    Ian
185.29NEED FILE NAMES BRADOR::S_FITZGERALDFri Oct 20 1995 08:219
    
    Can someone list the actual file names for the upgrades.I printed the
    entire file listing and am not sure exactly which files are the correct
    ones.I tried the (d2v17p.zip) and (d2_19pat.zip)both files were bad.
    step by step would be appreciated.
    
    doom and doomer