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Conference 501clb::pcdoom

Title:Doom - The Game
Notice:Doom stuff - see 183 Out of HOURS Access
Moderator:BAHTAT::HILTON
Created:Tue Jun 14 1994
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:212
Total number of notes:3287

180.0. "Networked multi-user/player DOOM???" by WARNUT::BANKST (Network Mercenary) Fri Jun 23 1995 10:09

    I am working with a customer to build a Public Internet Centre.  We
    spec'ed up an Alpha server and Pentium PCs for WWW, Mail,INN, BIND etc,
    and quoted for the project, then out of the blue came multi-player
    DOOM.
    
    I admit I know zip about DOOM, but the propeller head in the tech dept
    insists that DOOM requires a Novell IPX stack, and a Netware server, on
    which at least a part of the DOOM program runs, allowing people at the
    client MS-DOS PCs to play with/against each other over a network (LAN).
    
    Any of you guys know about multi-palyer DOOM and how it networks PCs
    together??  Specificaly do you have to have a server in the equation or
    can PCs comunicate directly?  If they can, can they use TCP/IP over
    Ethernet?  Does it have to be Netware??
    
    Any pointers to suitable notes conferences appreciated.
    
    Thanks
    
    	Tim
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180.1BIS1::MENZIESThey don't like it up'em you know..don't like it up'emFri Jun 23 1995 10:506
    I have two PCs at home, connected together via two Ethernet cards and a
    little bit of cable. I installed DOOM on both machines and used the
    doom SERSETUP software (provided with the game) to get the machines
    talking. It is very easy as no doubt Mr Lozza will explain.
    
    Shaun
180.2So no Novell server needed then?WARNUT::BANKSTNetwork MercenaryFri Jun 23 1995 11:0823
    Thanks for the quick reply,
    
    I gather from what you say a Netware SERVER is not required, just the
    IP/ODI drivers, correct?  Is there a version that MUST USE a Novell
    server do you know?
    
    With a simple LAN config such as yours, how many players can you have,
    is it four or more?
    
    And would I be correct in saying DOOM doesn't run as a Windows
    application, i.e. you need to exit windows to run it?
    
    I found the FAQ but it is HUGE! though I did get some answers.
    
    The customer will have 90Mhz 24Mb Pentiums on Ethernet, that will also
    be used for Netscape etc on the Internet.  I believe they will have to
    have a dual boot option, one for WfW and TCP/IP, Netscape etc, and one
    for IPX/ODI+DOOM.  DOes that seem reasonable, as I don't think two
    network stacks would co-exist when running DOOM?
    
    Thanks for the input
    
    	Tim
180.3FORTY2::HOWELLJust get to the point...Mon Jun 26 1995 05:4245
    Firstly, no, DOOM does not need a 'server'. Each machine runs the
    software is a more 'peer-to-peer' style configuration. In your setup,
    the Alpha server would be redundant when it came to DOOM network games
    - the PC's would just talk to each other.
    
    >>I gather from what you say a Netware SERVER is not required, just the
    >>IP/ODI drivers, correct? Is there a version that MUST USE a Novell
    >>server do you know?
    
    Correct. Usual case would be loading your network card's driver, then
    LSL and then finally IPXODI. This is the easiest way to get a network
    game going as it does not require a 'server'.
    
    >>With a simple LAN config such as yours, how many players can you
    >>have, is it four or more?
    
    No matter how many PC's are linked, only 4 players can be in one game
    at one time. However on a single network you can have more than 1 game
    running, by using different 'ports' for the network. So 8 computers
    linked up could run 2 games of 4 players each, or 4 games of two
    players, and so on...
    
    >>And would I be correct in saying DOOM doesn't run as a Windows
    >>application, i.e. you need to exit windows to run it?
    
    Correct. This is your best bet.
    
    >>The customer will have 90Mhz 24Mb Pentiums on Ethernet, that will also
    >>be used for Netscape etc on the Internet.  I believe they will have to
    >>have a dual boot option, one for WfW and TCP/IP, Netscape etc, and one
    >>for IPX/ODI+DOOM.  DOes that seem reasonable, as I don't think two
    >>network stacks would co-exist when running DOOM?
    
    Sounds reasonable, yes. Best that DOOM has its own configuration (which
    DOS 6.xx allows easily). As for the latter question, I don't know -
    maybe a techie can answer that.
    
    As for running DOOM over TCP/IP it *is* possibly, by using a utility
    called IFRAG. Now *THIS* requires a server machine (probably what your
    friend was referring to).
    
    Do a DIR /TIT=IFRAG - it's been talked about in here already.
    
    CHeers, and good  luck,
    Dan