Conference 501clb::pcdoom

    Two things:-
    
    	i) I presume this network does work (ie. for example, Windows for
    Workgroups is okay)
    
    	ii) Have you tried it though the standard menu system of SETUP?
    Sometimes I found this worked when IPXSETUP didn't. Try it.
    
    Cheers,
    Dan

    
    ive never used the command line stuff... heretic came with a GREAT menu
    program called DM i use all the time.... works with doom, d2 or heretic
    and external wads, etc.
    

    Thanks for these replies......But,
    
    
    
    1- I have no WFW 3.11
    
    2- I have already try to start the game by setup menu from D2 but it's
       the same  problem, no find any player on the net.
    
    3- Where can I found DM from Heretic Game ?????
    
    4- Does any notions of server-client for the network ???
    
    5- Is there any configuration soft or hard for the board as addresses 
       network fromDE204 ?????
    
    
    
    Very, very very BIG QUESTIONS !!!??!!!!??.
    

    1. Ahhh. So we have no proof that this network necessarily works?
       Lantastic? Novell Netware? etc..
    
    2. Right.
    
    3. Copy the shareware version of Heretic from FLYTE::, un-zip it, and
       there is DM.
    
    4. No. Peer to peer networking is more like what Doom uses.
    
    5. Your card will no doubt have lots of jumpers for base addresses,
       IRQs, etc. but Doom is not fussy which are used - more like your
       network drivers won't initialise if the settings aren't correct.
       However, you say LSL, IPXODI, etc.. all load okay? Then there
       should not be a problem.
    
    	Hmmmmm.... it would be better to find out if this network works at
    all, before we start getting onto Doom side of things....... :-)
    
    Cheers,
    Dan

    Have a look at the network FAQ, it's on here somewhere, try
    dir/title=network
    
    Mark

    
    I didn't think you could TP directly between two stations? I thought
    there had to be a hub in between...
    
    -Ray
    

    
    You can do UTP direct between two NICs _but_ it has to be a cross-over
    type cable that swaps the TX and RX pairs. This is _not_ the standard
    cable configuration, which is pin-to-pin.
    
    What is .0's source of network drivers etc.?
    
    HTH,
    
    Jason...

    
    re: .6
    
    yep, i had to build a tp xover cable to do it, eventually went out and
    got a hub.  i just basically had two normal cables, and a small rj45
    extension thing (female plug on each side).  broke it in half, rewired
    the inside, and viola... xover module.  when i bought the hub, i just
    pulled that out and plugged the cables into the hub.
    

    HELLO,
    
    
    OUAHHH, it works fine now because i have a HUB, BN24 cable and BN26
    cables.
    BN24 cable PC is the master and the other(s) PC have BN26 cables.
    
    Thanks for every body for your helps, you are very INTELLIGENT...
    

    Seems as good as place as any...
    What are the best ways to give a beginning player a chance against
    more experienced players in deathmatch?  The beginning player starts
    at -level 1 while the other start at -level 5, but it doesn't seem
    to make any difference in terms of how many shots they can take before
    dying.  The -turbo speed boost is ok, but is there a way for the
    beginning player to start with better weapons?  I did read the network
    addendum and README.TXT.
    
    P.S. setting up two plug and play 3com 3c509b's for Doom2 was trivial:
    install the boards, run AUTOLINK to set up the Novell IPX driver, and
    IPXSETUP.
    Tanks, Kratz

    Apart from the -turbo option (which really was to allow for slower
    machines), DOOM doesn't allow any kind of advantages over
    network/serial play - they could be seen as cheats, which is one thing
    it doesn't allow in this mode of play.
    
    You're only options are :-
    
    	o Practise by yourself on hard level settings
    	o Play experienced others who are complete goits and kill you at
    	  every possible opportunity. Just bear with it.
    	o Play experienced others who will give you a chance to develop,
    	  and bear with it :-)
    
    Good luck, keep with it !
    
    Cheers,
    Dan

    
    the experienced players limit themselves to pistol and chainsaw/fists
    against the novice players when we play.
    
    also we play teams.  2 against 2 and usually have an experienced player
    on each side.  now THAT is a blast!  was great in heretic, i saw two
    guys on level 1 standing where the morph ovum appears both firing at my
    partner who was inside the area where you start.  i teleported in
    behind them, phoenix staffed both the guys.  they both caught on fire,
    burned to ashes, and fell away from eachother.  we were DYING!
    

    Self control... darn, I didn't think of doing that!  They might
    actually have a chance now!  Teaming up greenhorns and advanced
    players is an excellent idea too.
    
    (Still, it would be nice if there was a switch like "-weapons 2"
    that would limit a player to using or picking up only the first two
    levels of weapons; i.e. fists/chainsaw and pistol... maybe next
    version).
    
    Thanks .-1 and -2.
    Kratz

    
    
    
    it really sucks though when your green partner gets jealous of just how
    great you are :') and shoots you in the back with the rocket launcher
    (or even worse with the phoenix staff and you are carrying armloads of
    morph ovums, spellbooks, rings of invulnerability, wings, etc etc etc
    and you lose EVERYTHING....)
    
    we also play me against everybody else :')  a stereo soundcard and a
    set of headphones is a must though, especially to chase the chicken in
    heretic :').
    

    
    I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but I can't find it...
    
    We used to have access to a Novell network, but now its gone, and the
    DEATHMATCH withdrawal symptoms have reached disaster level.
    
    DOOM over DECNET (PATHWORKS I guess)!  Is it possible? If so how?
    
    I'm technically minded, but not on PCs, though I'd like to learn...
    
    Can anyone help?  What do we need top do?  Is there another note/reply
    I can look at?  Any 'shareware' kit?
    
    Thanks,
    Ian

    If your talking about using this within Digital, then you can just set
    up IPX between the PC's, you don't need a Novell server, so just set it
    up as it was before. 
    
    I used the DOS 6 menu utility to select Deathmatch or ordinary DOS.
    
    Greg

    
    Yup, within Digital, however I need the IPX to be detected, I'm sure
    there was a note with instructions somewhere...   Damned if I can find
    it.
    
    Cheers,
    Ian

    
    To be precise, the message is : "IPX not detected".
    All I need is a pointer to where it explains how to do it...
    
    Thanks,
    Ian

    Note 77?

    
    OK, I've waded through all 88 replies to note 77, where can I get hold
    of the pktd11.zip inside Digitial?  I couldn't find it on the shared
    area in Australia.
    
    Cheers,
    Ian

    You should get all the necessary Novell files with the floppy disk
    containing drivers for your card, ie lsl, ipx.com etc
    
    Have you read the Doom FAQ?

    
    Yes I have read (most of) the FAQ, I will follow the instructions
    therein once I get hold of the drivers etc.
    
    The PC wasn't mine when new, and being in Digital, the floppy could be
    anywhere, hence the question...
    
    Cheers,
    Ian

    Try noted::etherworks for Digital drivers.