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Conference tecrus::mormonism

Title:The Glory of God is Intelligence.
Moderator:BSS::RONEY
Created:Thu Jan 28 1988
Last Modified:Fri Apr 25 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:460
Total number of notes:6198

436.0. "An invitation to explore" by AKOCOA::RONDINA () Fri Sep 03 1993 13:02

    I would like to start a discussion on the topic of spirituality.  What
    does it mean to you?  How does it manifest itself?  What is the
    spiritual dimension of humanity for?  Or anything else you want to
    throw in.
    
    I have been recently pondering spirituality, spiritual life, spiritual
    dimension.  For instance, a human being is all of these:
    
    a. An animal (highly evolved, yes, but still animal)
    b. A thinking being, but so are other animals
    c. A reasoning being, so are some other animals
    d. A "feeling/emotional" being, so are other animals
    e. Intellectual, capable of abstractions, conceptualization, etc.
    f. A spiritual being.
    
    Sometimes I contemplate my own humanity, amazed at my ability to
    think, sense. I recognize that these abilities make me human, but then
    are only highly developed abilities that do exist lower in the animal
    kindgom.
    
    So then what truly distinguishes my humanity?  I believe that it is our
    spiritual natures that truly set us apart.  So I am starting to explore
    what "spiritual nature" means.  I distinctly see it as a universal
    trait in all human beings, and something that is not just "being
    religious".  So what does it mean to you.  How do you recognize someone
    who is spiritual, or who operates totally from the spiritual self?
    
    Paul
    
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436.1MusingsAKOCOA::RONDINATue Sep 07 1993 09:1732
    More musings on spirituality:
    
    I believe that our spiritual natures are truly the eternal in us.  The
    spiritual nature is that part of us that responds to "eternal truths"
    larger than ourselves.  It is also that part of us that can be
    celestialized/deified/exalted, capable of inheriting and living
    "eternal life" (which is life as God lives it).
    
    And all of us humans have a spiritual nature, more highly evolved than
    other life forms.  We nourish it according to our own understandings,
    desires, attitudes, etc.  Some nourish is with good, some with evil.
    Utlimately the latter will experience "spiritual death" if they go too
    far and are not redeemable.  Imagine being dead to things of the
    spirit, such as love, hope, faith, joy, accomplishment, happiness,
    learning, inspiration, etc.?
    
    Since all of us have a spirit and are thus engaged in nuturing our
    spirits, one way or another, then what are the evidences/indications of
    spiritual development?  Religion takes on a whole meaning in that we
    can turn to our religions for the feeding and nurturing of our spirits.
    Some use a do-it-yourself approach and join no organized religion, but
    read scripture and pray and learn.  Others use a highly structured
    approach, removing themselves from society to live a life of totaly
    spiritual involvement (monks and the like fit this category).
    
    Most of us are engaged in living temporally and developing our
    spiritual natures within life's parameters.  And then there are those
    who are "spiritually dead" while still living.
    
    More on this later.
    
    Paul
436.2My first shot at it.BSS::RONEYCharles RoneyTue Sep 07 1993 10:0226
	I believe that all things created must fill the measure of their
	creation, and that all things on this earth were created spiritually
	before physically.  While the physical will fall and decay, the
	spirit is that which goes on.  Mankind (male and female) are not
	animals, but spiritual children of God.  Where animals rely on
	instincts, man must learn.  Animals may exhibit signs of thinking,
	but they do not use it to adapt - they die.  The one thing that
	separates man from animals in particular, and mankind in general, is
	that spirit which inhabits the physical body.  That is what makes us
	different from each other. 

	A new born baby is totally innocent in all things, and must be taught
	to do all things.  It must be taken care of and nurtured.  If nurtured
	in an evil way (from a religious standpoint), then it will be evil.
	As the Light of Christ is given to both good and evil, only the good
	will respond in like.  The evil will deny and turn away.	

	The complexities of this issue are great, but the fact still remains
	that each human being is a child of God and is basically driven by
	three things:  God (through the Holy Ghost), the Light of Christ, and
	their environment.  The only true measure of their spiritual growth
	is to compare them to Christ.  The goal, in my mind anyway, is to see
	or measure when they have reached a fullness in their pure love of 
	Christ, and have charity towards all men.  The degree in meeting this
	requirement, is, to me, the evidence/indication of their spiritual
	development.
436.3Fast & Testimony Meeting - Spiritual CelebrationsAKOCOA::RONDINATue Sep 07 1993 10:0623
    I attended FAst & Testimony this week and looked at that meeting
    differently.  For me, it became an opportunity for people to tell
    stories (read bear testimonies) about their own spiritual growth and
    experiences.  The result is that 1)it tells the rest of us that indeed
    spiritual growth is real because it is happening to others and 2)how to
    recognize and realize the development of the spiritual nature through
    other people's experiences.
    
    In the past there have been Fast and TEstimony meetings that bored me,
    sometimes angered me (especially when people spouted their political
    beliefs) or left me unfulfilled.  Now, however, these meetings have
    taken a new meaning because every person, even the kids, are narrating
    their experiences of spiritual development.  Their narrations
    (testimonies) encourage me that the temporal reality (jobs, bills,
    materialism, etc.) that bombards us in the work-a-day world is not the
    final reality.  Rather, it is the spiritual realm of every person that
    is paramount.  Testimony Meeting is a time to stop and celebrate the
    samll and sometimes large victories of spiritual accomplishments of
    everyone. By so doing my own spiritual exploration and growth is
    nutured and fed.  And I start to get a greater insight into how God is
    working among mankind to foster the spiritual advancement of all.
    
    Paul