Conference tecrus::mormonism

    
    Hi,
    
    As I will probably be moving soon, (ISDN = I've Switched Desks Now), 
    and we were very low on disk space, I decided to make a backup of my
    files including the On-line Scriptures that were mentioned in .0.
    
    
    I figure they will have a new home in about a couple of weeks (if 
    everything goes well).  I will post a note here and let you know 
    where the new home for the scriptures is as soon as I have everything
    set up.
    
    This was the reason that I posted so many chapters all at once for the
    Book of Mormon Study Group.
    
    Take care,
    
    Frank

    I'm back,

    My transfer came through.  I've been transferred to Stuttgart (4 weeks 
    ago), and now have a job that I really like and I have a much better than 
    average manager.  8^)

    I don't have an apartment yet as the apartment situation here is critical.
    There is very little available, and what is available is unaffordable.

    I read the conference on a weekly basis (usually sent to me via batch), 
    but I'll try to read it daily if/when I find the time.

    I am in the process of settting up the directories for the ON-LINE 
    versions of the Bible & Book of Mormon on my system.  I currently have 
    the KJV Bible and the Book of Mormon (most of it anyway) in normal ascii 
    text format (which you can type or read).  I should have the bookreader
    format in about a week or so (for those of you who have been blessed with 
    the good fortune of having a workstation).

    The tree structure looks like this:

    SUOSWS::USER$DISK5:[WILLOUGHBY.LDS.PUBLIC.BIBLE]      ! ASCII KJV
    SUOSWS::USER$DISK5:[WILLOUGHBY.LDS.PUBLIC.BIBLE.DECW] ! BOOKREADER KJV
    SUOSWS::USER$DISK5:[WILLOUGHBY.LDS.PUBLIC.BOM]        ! ASCII BOOK OF MORMON
    
    *  If you have problems accessing the files after next Friday,  *
    *  send me a quick mail and I'll take care of it quickly.     *
    
    
    I would like to apologize to those who were left hanging with the Book 
    of Mormon Study Group.  I would have like to have done more with it, 
    but I just didn't have the time (with job-hunting & apartment-hunting 
    going on).

    I have got a couple of projects on the back burner.  I will do my best 
    to have them done by January/February (if all goes well). They are:

    A quick look (as if there was such a thing) at the Nag Hammadi texts and 
    Dead Sea Scrolls and how they support the LDS claim that we *are* the
    restored Church of Jesus Christ.  One problem I am having is the huge 
    chunk of time (a commodity that is extremely scarce right now) that it 
    involves to do this right.  
    
    Finish typing in the Book of Mormon.  If I suddenly get a lot of free 
    time, I could translate it into bookreader format.

    Comparing the JST translation of the Bible with the Einheitsuebersetzung
    (German Catholic/Protestant version of the Bible).  BTW, Joseph Smith said
    that the Martin Luther translation is the most correct of the then available
    versions of the Bible.  (From what I have seen so far, there are places 
    where the KJV translation isn't as good as the Einheitsuebersetzung).  
    There are passages that are _definitely_ misleading.  I don't have the 
    Martin Luther Bible, or I could compare the three of them.

Well, I've got to go.

Take care,

Frank

    
Here is the location for a copy of the KJV Bible in Boookreader Format:

CVG""::SYS$COMMON:[DECW_BOOK.NON-WORK_RELATED]*.DECW*            (New Hampshire)
    
                        OR
    
SUOSWS::USER$DISK5:[WILLOUGHBY.LDS.PUBLIC.BIBLE.DECW]*.DECW*     (Germany)
    

The files have a total of @ 84,000 blocks (42 MB), so check first to see 
if you will have enough disk space before copying it.  You can find out 
how much disk space you have available by typing:

$SHOW QUOTA  (How much disk space (blocks) you have available in your account)

   If you don't have any quotas, you are lucky, all you have to do is check to
   see how much free disk space is left.

$SHOW DEV D  (How much free disk space on your disk)


If you have more than 84,000 free blocks left, then copy the files via spool
(unless you want to sit at your termina for the next week or so).  

To use spool (ftsv), 

1) Set default to the directory where you want to copy the files to.
2) Give the following command:

$SPOOL COPY/READ/WRITE/LOG
_From: CVG""::SYS$COMMON:[DECW_BOOK.NON-WORK_RELATED]*.DECW* 
_To: *


Once you have copied them, please let others in your area know that you have it.
It will reduce the load on the systems and the network.

Best Regards,

Frank

    
    There is a strong possibility that the Bible & Book of Mormon Files 
    (text & Bookreader formats) that I are currently in my directory will 
    have to be deleted as they consume too much disk space.  I will ensure 
    that the files will be there until at least Friday the 18th of January.
    
    If you wish to copy the files, please do so as soon as possible.  
    (It wouldn't hurt if someone else had a copy - hint, hint).
    
    I will make a backup of the files onto tape for archival purposes and
    try to resurrect the files as soon as disk space allows (which probably
    won't be in the near future).
    
    If anyone has the disk space, please copy them and make them publicly
    available.  Please post a reply to this note saying where the new
    location is.  
    
    Thanks for your help.
    
    Best Regards,
    
    Frank

    
    I've got some really good news.  
    
    I freed up enough disk space and the scriptures will continue to 
    be on-line.  
    
    Also, I expect to have ALL of the standard works on-line soon.  
                           ===
    
    I already have the KJV Bible & part of the Book of Mormon.  
    The rest of the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine & Covenants & 
    the Pearl of Great Price should be available in the near future.
    
    Stay tuned.  I'll post a note here when ALL of the standard works
    are on-line & available.
    
    
    Best Regards,
    
    Frank

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AT LONG LAST, Project Iron-Rod is complete and I NOW HAVE ALL OF THE 
STANDARD WORKS - ONLINE!

I have the standard works in TWO formats - ULTRIX & VMS.  Please use 
the correct version for your Operating System.  If in doubt, try the 
VMS files.  The difference is in the format of the files.  ULTRIX uses 
<LF> to start a new line & VMS (along with most other systems) uses <CR><LF>.

I also have some other documents in bookreader format.  (The Constitution, 
The Bill of Rights, etc).  I also have a copy of the KJV (King James Version
of the Bible) in bookreader format and I will put it in the bookreader 
directory as soon as I free up enough disk space.  
    

Anyway, here is how the directory tree looks:


SUOSWS""::USER$DISK5:[WILLOUGHBY.LDS.PUBLIC.DECW]           ! BOOKREADER FILES

SUOSWS""::USER$DISK5:[WILLOUGHBY.LDS.PUBLIC.ULTRIX.BIBLE]   ! KJV BIBLE
                                                  .BOM]     ! BOOK OF MORMON
                                                  .D_AND_C] ! D & C
                                                  .POGP]    ! PEARL OF GREAT
                                                              PRICE

SUOSWS""::USER$DISK5:[WILLOUGHBY.LDS.PUBLIC.VMS.BIBLE]      ! KJV BIBLE
                                               .BOM]        ! BOOK OF MORMON
                                               .D_AND_C]    ! D & C
                                               .POGP]       ! PEARL OF GREAT
                                                              PRICE


As I mentioned in previous replies, PLEASE use FTSV (SPOOL) to copy the files.
If you have any problems or anything, please feel free to contact me.

Enjoy the scriptures.  Please read them daily.


Best Regards,


Frank

    Hi Frank,
    
    How much disk space are we talking here?  
    
    scott

SHORT ANSWER (ALL sizes are rounded up):

SAVESET (HAS BOTH VMS & ULTRIX STANDARD WORKS):	@34000 blocks =  17 MB 
VMS STANDARD WORKS:	 			@15000 blocks =   8 MB 	
ULTRIX STANDARD WORKS:	 			@15000 blocks =   8 MB
KJV BIBLE					@10000 blocks =   5 MB
BOOK OF MORMON					@ 3000 blocks =   2 MB
DOCTRINE & COVENENTS				@ 1500 blocks =   1 MB
PEARL OF GREAT PRICE				@  350 blocks = 200 KB

The saveset of the scriptures (containing the ULTRIX & VMS VERSIONS) 
is located in USER$DISK5:[WILLOUGHBY.LDS.PUBLIC].  The ULTRIX & VMS 
files are both the same size and are about 15,000 blocks each (@7.5MB).  

If you are interested in the Bookreader format of the KJV, you will
need 82511 blocks (@42MB) of free disk space.  Unfortunately, I WILL 
NOT be able to put the Bookreader KJV into the DECW directory like 
I originally planned due to disk space limitations.  8^(  

HOWEVER, I DO have Bookreader KJV them on TK50 and can make them available 
to someone - with the stipulation that they make them public so that 
others can copy them.  FWIW, since the ascii text scriptures are now 
available, AND most people have limited disk space (including me), it 
would be impractical to put the Bookreader KJV onto disk (my disk anyway).
FWIW, if you put all of the the ascii scriptures in the same directory,
you can display one or more verses with one command (SEARCH).  Those
using Ultrix can use grep or other similar utility.  

An example of the syntax follows:


SEARCH/WINDOW=(0,20)	YOURDISKNAME::[YOURNAME.SCRIPTURES]*.*;*  "NE1 1:1"
     OR
SEARCH/WINDOW=(20)	YOURDISKNAME::[YOURNAME.SCRIPTURES]*.*;*  "NE1 1:1"


BTW, if you copy the saveset, please do us all a favor and make your
saveset publicly available (recommended protection=w:r) and make an 
annoucement regarding the location of the scriptures on your system.  
Please make the announcement in a reply to this note (356.last).  
It would be a real waste of resources if everybody copied them from 
Germany when somebody already has them in the States (Massachusetts
or somewhere).

The KJV Bible in the directories is currently in another type of format.
I should have the KJV in the VMS & Ultrix formats in a couple of 
days (please be patient).  To avoid confusion, I protected the directories
containing the KJV Bible.  The protection will be changed back to W:R
as soon as the new version is available.


Best Regards,


Frank