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Conference tecrus::mormonism

Title:The Glory of God is Intelligence.
Moderator:BSS::RONEY
Created:Thu Jan 28 1988
Last Modified:Fri Apr 25 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:460
Total number of notes:6198

271.0. "Study of the New Testament" by DEMON::CROCITTO (PhantomoftheOPERAtingSystem) Mon Sep 11 1989 14:21

    Hi,
    
    Before I make an utter idiot out of myself in front of Primary next
    week, are these the correct names for the 12 Tribes:
    
    1.  Reuben
    2.  Simeon
    3.  Levi
    4.  Judah
    5.  Issachar
    6.  Zebulun
    7.  Joseph
    8.  Benjamin
    9.  Dan
    10. Naphtali
    11. Gad
    12. Asher
    
    Thanks!  (And my Primary class thanks you, too!)
    
    Jane
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271.1I think so.CSC32::S_JOHNSONYou gotta drop the duck to play the saxophoneTue Sep 12 1989 09:373
    Yes.
    
    scott
271.2correct sons but...FLATTP::MURRAY_RUFri Oct 20 1989 20:4019
    This might be somewhat late for the sunday school class but anyway.
    You are right in that those were the twelve sons of Isreal.  However
    I am of the tribe of Ephriam (of which you probably are too).  The
    confusion comes because Joseph's blessing was given to his two sons
    with the major blessing being given to Ephriam.  As I remeber Reuben
    lost his blessing because of disobedience.  Thus there were still
    twelve.
    
    Also in matters of land in the old world the Levites did not get
    a separate area but were mingled among the other tribes because
    of their role as priests.  But Reubin, Ephriam, and Manasah (sp?)
    did get parcels.

    
    I don't have any reference materials with me if you want I can look
    it up.
    
    
    Russell Murray
271.3Revelations 6: the Third Seal?MIZZOU::SHERMANECADSR::SHERMAN 235-8176, 223-3326Mon Jul 02 1990 11:1910
Over the weekend I found interest in reading and pondering over Revelations 6.
In particular, it struck me that the focus of verses 5 and 6 seems to be on the
dominance of economy in world affairs and competition.  Verses 3 and 4 seem to
focus on the cold war that may be drawing to an end.  And, verse 2 seems to
focus on the times of conquest that perhaps came to a climax about the time of 
World War 1 or WW II.  I've been pondering over the idea that perhaps we are 
now entering the time of the third seal.  Any thoughts?

Steve
271.4BSS::RONEYCharles RoneyFri Sep 14 1990 15:4726
	Since no one else has taken a stab at this, I thought I would.

	The first four seals seem to be represented by a horse of a certain
	color with a particular purpose.

		vs 1,2	Seal #1, Horse #1 is white representing conquest.

		vs 3,4 	Seal #2, Horse #2 is red representing war.

		vs 5,6	Seal #3, Horse #3 is black representing balance.
			 (? maybe famine, pestilance, and drought ?).

		vs 7,8	Seal #4, Horse #4 is pale representing death.	

	Have not the conditions that the four horses represent been with
	the *world* from the beginning?  Iraq has shown that the times of 
	conquest have not climaxed at all.  I don't really think a particular
	instance is pointed out here, but certain conditions that will be
	in the world until the end.

	Personnally, I would be more concerned with the trumptets in chap 8.

	Isn't it interesting that there are seven seals, seven trumps, seven
	days representing the creation?  Lots of sevens.....

271.5my $.01 worthKAHALA::PRESTONHitler was a vegetarianSun Sep 16 1990 20:139
    Charles,
    
    It may have more to do with these things being experienced on a
    massive, unprecedented, worldwide scale rather than merely being present
    somewhere on the globe. They may become the driving forces shaping the
    course of events in the last days, much more so than they are even now.
    
    Ed