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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

4244.0. "ALL-IN-1 for ALPHA" by ISIDRO::TORRECILLA (take a walk on the wild side) Thu Jun 09 1994 10:28

    I would like to know:
    
    -  	if ALL-IN-1 3.1 is the first one to run on ALPHA
    	VMS, or is 3.0 going to do.
    
    - 	when will ALL-IN-1 run on ALPHA?	
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Nieves
    
    
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4244.1AnswersIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Thu Jun 09 1994 11:0814
>   -  	if ALL-IN-1 3.1 is the first one to run on ALPHA
>    	VMS, or is 3.0 going to do.

V3.1 will be the first version of ALL-IN-1 to run on Alpha.  V3.0 is not
being ported to Alpha.

    
>   - 	when will ALL-IN-1 run on ALPHA?	
    
The currently announced plan is that V3.1 will be shipped in July 1994. 


Richard    
    
4244.2You didn't say which language.AIMTEC::WICKS_AAtlanta's Most (In)famous WelshmanThu Jun 09 1994 16:018
    nieves,
    
    the July date is for ENGLISH (american and british) you will have to
    check with Israel on dates for other languages.
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
4244.3September VAX CondistIOSG::HOLTDDave HoltFri Jun 10 1994 13:498
Five European languages will be on the September VAX CDROM which will be the
first VAX Condist for America/English also. They are German, French, Dutch,
Spanish and Italian.

ALL-IN-1 V3.1 AXP will be on the Auhgust AXP CDROM.

Regards,
Dave
4244.4Advice needed on ALPHA migrationZPOVC::WENDYLAIYSLTue Jul 05 1994 06:2137

Hi,

my customer would like to migrate to ALPHA AXP when ALL-IN-1 on ALPHA is ready 
in August.

They are currently running :
 
ALL-IN-1 V3.0a
TeamLinks Connection Package 2.0
Message Router V3.2
TeamRoute for ALL-IN-1 V1.1
DECfax Mail V1.1
DEC Notes V2.4
VTX 5.x
VTX accounting (ASSETS)

As only ALL-IN-1 IOS, TLC and TeamRoute for ALL-IN-1 are available on ALPHA 
AXP, can this customer migrate their ALL-IN-1 system to ALPHA with the rest 
still running on the VAX?  

How about Message Router ?  Must it be on the same LAN as the ALL-IN-1 IOS ?
Due to security reason, this customer has three DECNET Area (subnet).  If each
subnet is running ALL-IN-1 IOS on ALPHA AXP, does it need one Message Router
running on a VAX in each subnet or only one VAX is enough for the whole
network.  When using remote Message Router, will the ALL-IN-1 users and
TeamLinks users be able to use DDS ?

I suppose DECfax Mail can run on the remote Message Router;  both DEC Notes and
VTX running on the VAX can be accessed remotely from the ALL-IN-1 ALPHA system.
Is my assumption correct ?

Thanks for any pointer or input.

Rgds,
 - Wendy.
4244.5IOSG::MAURICEEnd of the road for the Emerald CityTue Jul 05 1994 09:408
    Hi,
    
    TeamRoute for ALL-IN-1 is not available on ALPHA AXP. The SPD does
    point this out.
    
    Cheers
    
    Stuart
4244.6NOTES - yes, VTX - noIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Tue Jul 05 1994 11:388
The DEC NOTES client and server code has been ported to Alpha AXP.  You can 
run it on an AXP or VAX.

VTX has not been ported to Alpha AXP so if you are using an AXP you cannot 
use VTX.


Richard
4244.7Message RouterIOSG::ECHRISTIEEileen ChristieWed Jul 06 1994 09:3915
You should be able to use one VAX to service all your users (don't know
performance details), but this means that at least some of them will have a new
mail address. This can be trapped and their addresses replaced tranparently to
the users if necessary. 

You will need MR V3.3A. This introduced the mechanism to make use of MR on a VAX
from an AXP, ie using remote MR. That meant remote DDS was offered for the first
time. However, remote DDS supports enquiries only. ALL-IN-1 had to come up with
a way of offering DDS updates (since operations like Create User do that in
ALL-IN-1). So, if your MR VAX is part of the cluster, the DDS customer will
notice no difference. However, if it is a remote VAX, elsewhere on the net,
remote DDS update operations have to be done manually by the system manager.
ALL-IN-1 V3.1 helps by sending a message to the manager with the exact
instructions needed to do this, ie a .com file which should be run on the DDS
node.
4244.8which means no migration ???ZPOVC::WENDYLAIYSLThu Jul 07 1994 16:0221
    
    re .5, .6, .7
    
    
    Thank you for all the input.   Looks like my customer will have to wait
    for the TeamRoute PC server to be available and prepare to drop VTX
    before they could consider migrating ALL-IN-1 to ALPHA AXP.
    
    What kind of ALL-IN-1 installed based we are targetting for ALL-IN-1
    ALPHA AXP ?  I am sure most of them have various layered prodcut
    running on top of it.  How should we advise our customer to migrate
    ?????
    
    I truly appreciate the engineeing effort in the ALL-IN-1 ALPHA migration 
    but customer will be more disappointed when they realize there are many
    other layered products yet to be or will not be supported on ALPHA.
    
    Rgds,
     - Wendy.
    
                  
4244.9IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeFri Jul 08 1994 12:539
    Wendy,
    
    If you have documentable dollar shortfalls with customer names that
    this shortage of products on AXP will produce, then please let us know,
    so that we can pass it onto the guys who make the decisions.
    
    Graham
    
    PS thanks for the thanks for our efforts...