Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Hello Don,

Before joining Digital I worked 4 years as an ALL-IN-1 manager and the last 1 
year of these 4 years, I've enjoyed myself with ALL-IN-1, WordPerfect/VMS, 
ALL-IN-1 wordPerfect integration and last but not least WPS-PLUS <-> WordPerfect
conversions.
    
>    	1. Assuming WordPerfect integrated under ALL-IN-1, Are WPS+ documents 
>    	   "converted" into WordPerfect format for editing, if the editor of 
>    	   choice is set to WordPerfect?  (In other words, is automatic 
>           conversion done similar to the case when editor is set to EDT 
>           and doc is a .WPL? or vice-versa)

Yes, WPS-PLUS formatted documents are automaticaly converted to WordPerfect 
formatted documents. After exiting WordPerfect or saving the doucment, the
document will be converted back to it's orginal format i.e. WPS-PLUS.

This behaviour can lead to unexpected results. For example WPS-PLUS documents
containing TDE pictures after they've been edited in WordPerfect will still
contain these pictures BUT outside the TDE editor. This behaviour also applies
to certain control blocks.
    
>    	2. If there is no automatic conversion performed - is there a
>    	   "standard" method for converting the .WPL documents into a format 
>    	   suitable for WordPerfect? (this would be permanent conversion).
>           An earlier note (around the 1992 time frame) eluded to KEYPAK 
>    	   as a possible solution, then was rebuffed as not a viable
>    	   solution.  Any information on this ?
    
Well , you could try the CD (convert Document) option within ALL-IN-1.

Last but not least, Keep in mind a conversion will never be 100% complete.

large numbers of documents (50% ~ 80%)  which are created in the past will 
never be edited again, So converting all existing documents is not really needed


Regards,

Martin

    Thanks, Martin;
    
    I had a hunch that the auto convert mechanism would work, with certain
    limitations of course.  This information will help.  The client is 
    a local govenrment agency, and obviously if I can tell them if they
    choose to integrate the WordPerfect into ALL-IN-1 then the conversion
    question becomes (nearly) moot, AND it will save them money - Great.
    
    I did some further checking in the Keypak conference and learned that
    there are two steps to converting (as of mid 1993).  First, one must
    convert the WPS+ doc to "DX" format.  Then the DX format can be
    converted to WordPerfect, using the KEYPAK software.
    
    Obviously, in any conversion there are items that will not convert
    completely.  
    
    The other questions I had for the client are obvious as well - 
    1. how many documents do you have
    2. how many do you want converted.
    3. how many do you NEED converted...
    
    Thanks for the help.
    
    BEst Regards
    Don

    Hi again;
    
    (Martin - if your still there...)
    
    What is required (software wise) to provide the automatic conversion
    feature you mentioned?  (KEYPAK? or is it built into the WordPerfect
    ALL-IN-1 integration kit?  Or some other I don't know about).
    
    What has been your experience in integrating WordPerfect under
    ALL-IN-1, in regard to time estimate (1 day, 1 week, 1 month...)
    
    We are examining the alternative of converting 14,500 WPS+ documents to
    WP, versus integrating WP into ALL-IN-1 and allowing the S/W to do the
    conversions on the fly.
    
    Thanks once again.
    Don

Hello Don,

>    What is required (software wise) to provide the automatic conversion
>    feature you mentioned?  (KEYPAK? or is it built into the WordPerfect
>    ALL-IN-1 integration kit?  Or some other I don't know about).

All you need is ALL-IN-1, WordPerfect VAX/VMS and WordPerfect/ALL-IN-1 
integration kit.
    
>    What has been your experience in integrating WordPerfect under
>    ALL-IN-1, in regard to time estimate (1 day, 1 week, 1 month...)

The integration is rather smooth. On our site we did the installation of 
WordPerfect and the WordPerfect/ALL-IN-1 integration in � day.
The steps in detail are:

1. Install WordPerfect VAX/VMS (1 hr)
2. Set up your global WordPerfect settings (Currency formats, date and time,
   Measure units ect, ect...) (� hr)
3. Select within WordPerfect the printers you'd like to use with WordPerfect
   (depending of the number of printers and printertypes)
4. Install WordPerfect/ALL-IN-1 integration (1 hr)
5. Setup the links between the ALL-IN-1 printertypes and the WordPerfect 
   printer types. (~ � hr)

>    We are examining the alternative of converting 14,500 WPS+ documents to
>    WP, versus integrating WP into ALL-IN-1 and allowing the S/W to do the
>    conversions on the fly.

WordPerfect VAX/VMS is able to convert WPS-PLUS documents to WordPerfect 
documents, $WP51/CONVERT=DOCUMEMT/FROM=WPL <wpsplus doc> <WP doc>. The problem
is to get the converted documents back into ALL-IN-1.

At the customer's site, (Re. 1) I wrote a little program (ALL-IN-1 script) 
which took care of the WPS-PLUS to WordPerfect conversion. 

I don't have the sources anymore, but I'm quite sure I can program it again.

Have a nice weekend,

Martin

    Don,
    
    since you're in the U.S you can contact the CSC here in Atlanta - we
    will be providing some services in this area. Or the Product Manager 
    may know more...
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks