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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:	OLD ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:	Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:	IOSG::PYE

Created:	Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4343
Total number of notes:	18308

4086.0. "MUPA TMS form" by UTRTSC::SMEETS (Alpha AXP Compatible LinkWorks Mouse) Mon Apr 18 1994 16:00

Hello,

A customer just installed the MUPA patch and reported the following problem:

        User granting access:   HOFKAMP
        Access given to user:   HINRICHS

        Access Given:     Allow two calendar?  (Y/N):   Y
                          Allow set owner?     (Y/N):   Y

Time management Set Owner field of HINRICHS's profile entry contains Y

User HINRICHS set owner to user HOFKAMP and he create an event without any
problem. If however user HINRICHS wants to edit the entry he just created and
receives the error "No privilege for attemped operatrion"

This operation used to work before MUPA was installed.

I checked the named data of the TMS form

;;OA$_MO_EDIT;;

.IF OA$MAIL_USER NES OA$TM_OWNER THEN GET OA$DISPLAY=OA$_CMNOPRIV\\FORCE
 ELSE
.IF #PREV_DEFAULT NES "" THEN GET OA$DISPLAY = OA$_TM_OPTINTMENU\\FORCE
 ELSE CHECK_DISKQUOTA\\IFSTATUS
\\DECLARE_METER #METER_NO, OA$_TM_EV_EDIT\\START_METER #METER_NO
\\DO TMAPMEE\\STOP_METER #METER_NO

Because OA$MAIL_USER doesn't match OA$TM_OWNER the error message is generated.

If the above is the normal intended behaviour, shouldn't also the Create and 
delete option be modified ?

Martin

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
4086.1	See STARS for more details	AIMTEC::ZANIEWSKI_D	Why would CSC specialists need training?	`Mon Apr 18 1994 16:23`	13
	This is the intention, even though it is not documented. Editing an even and having the mail send from a user account that differs from the time management account results in a message with the NOTED status when it returns to the scheduler. This can lead to more serious problems. Delete does not generate a mail message that will cause problems. There are problems with the use of Create under investigation, but Set Owner has not yet been the sole contributing factor. Dave Zaniewski US CSC
4086.2	ICF 31 overcomes the no priv problem	IOSG::COTTINGHAM		`Mon Apr 18 1994 17:00`	13
	From my limited TM knowledge. The SO and SMU is required in MUPA before Edit event is allowed to overcome problems when editing responses. Create and Delete Event do not use the From_address as the Scheduler and thus cause no problem. The problem of an SO to a Scheduler no longer being able to Edit an Event is overcome in ICF 31 which is now available on request from Engineering. Regards Alan (not an expert)
4086.3		GIDDAY::JOYCE	Burn me kangaroo down sport	`Tue Apr 19 1994 00:39`	14
	Fwiw, I think a more meaningful error message should be displayed. We've had a LOT of calls from confused customers, who've "tried setting every ALL-IN-1 privilege and it still doesn't work!" Especially as this is not really an "error", just a restriction. I've tailored a few customers' TMS and TMSEV_OPTIONS1 forms to say something like... "You must Set Mail User (SMU) to FLINTSTONE before you can do this" Andy CSC Sydney
4086.4	ICF 31?	CROCKE::YUEN	Banquo Yuen, Darwin Australia	`Wed May 18 1994 12:35`	5
	Does this mean that after installing the ICF 31, user no longer needs to SMO before she can edit an event after SO? Thanks Banquo
4086.5	YES ICF does the SMU for you	IOSG::COTTINGHAM		`Wed May 18 1994 13:30`	10
	Yes. ICF 31 performs a psuedo SMU if necessary for any TM Mail operations on behalf of the SO'd User. This overcomes the problem of Replies having the wrong From_address. Note that the SMU is only active while sending any required TM generated mail message and the User will remain in their own Mail drawer after completion of the send. Regards Alan
4086.6	how about GMA	CROCKE::YUEN	Banquo Yuen, Darwin Australia	`Thu May 19 1994 10:08`	8
	I have requested from the patch, but haven't got it yet. I want to know even after the patch, doesn't the original owner needs to GMA to the one who looks after his/her event? (of course I mean beside giving access of the calendar) Thanks banquo
4086.7	SO no longer need GMA/SMU ?	GIDDAY::JOYCE	Burn me kangaroo down sport	`Fri May 27 1994 09:09`	12
	re. -1 > I want to know even after the patch, doesn't the original > owner needs to GMA to the one who looks after his/her event? > (of course I mean beside giving access of the calendar) From what I've been able to work out so far... no, not any more. Can one of the engineers confirm or deny this please? Andy